Your Military size?

[Fisenesia]

24,131,312 people are registered to control war machines through a virtual reality network in a time of war. Citizens with basic VR training are told to report to their nearest VR Center when war is declared. They then use a virtual reality system to control machines that can attack enemy nations without the citizens ever leaving Fisenesia. If a machine is damaged beyond working, the citizen can simply switch control to a new machine, preventing casualties.


The closest things to Fisenesian soldiers in the normal sense is our spies, espionage agents, and counter-espionage agents. Fisenesia currently has around 8,400 fully trained espionage agents operating outside of Fisenesia right now. Anyone could be a Fisenesian spy......

[Lelouche]

It is a completely different thing since my nation is larger then them, you do understand that right? This is a militarized Nationstate.

I did the math. 1.1 billion, with 7 million active, is to large to realistically train a force (more elite than the most elite) at some point you hit the wall of physical size, and percentages don't matter. only X amount of supplies, can land at Y airstrips, in Z hours, regardless of budget. further more only A Boot camps, can train B soldiers, in C time. even if you up the time table, you reduce quality. if you lower the time table, you increase quality, but decrease quantity

fairly basic algebra as applied to logistics..it's not rocket science...all though to achieve the goals you set for your military, you would need rocket scientists, simply to work as quartermasters

To be honest, I like RPing with a total Armed Forces of around, say, 4-3 million.

While that to me is extremely realistic, the problem lay with the fact that larger, more nasty nations simply don't care.

So when I fight people like, say, you, I'd RP having the 3-4 million amount, but when I'm RPing with the figurative Big Dogs, I usually have around 50 million (including Non-Combat Personnel in both numbers.)

1% is all I equip for a standing army, and that assumes rigid discipline and training, given a high military budget. that would currently be 140,000 troops

if it is a total war scenario, I have a reserve number, roughly 10% of population for me and even then, given my population, that's taking the men out of the factories and sending them to the front lines

if you took 3-4 against say my homeland....you would still crush me, regardless of how well trained I might be....only insurgence and gorilla warfare would settle at that point

luckily I have defensive alliance

Doing the math, my nation would have an Armed Forces of around 5 million if it had .2% of the population in the Military.

However, I do spend around 28 Trillion dollars for my Annual Defense Budget, I wonder how that would factor in.

you reached the budget calculation how? I use http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatist ... n=Lelouche to do mine...it gives me favorable results

at 0.2 percent, you can certainly train the most efficient army imaginable...at 5 million you still have major logistics problems....although 28 Trillion is a huge number....what is your pop? I haven't looked it up

[Lelouche]

It also depend on how established a nation's military is, a nation that is established one year ago in RP situation can't get that much elite soldiers. Soldier retire and I surely know of that, but fact is that the more established your military is, the more elite soldier you can afford without having high expensve. Did a calculation and indeed I can had 15 millions troops with US style training. I had a military budget of around 3 trillions, therefore I can afford 15 millions troops with US style training and equipments, but that TOTAL number of 15 millions include logistic and etc. In order to make my active force more elite then US, I gave up superior training for my reserve and instead reduced their training to equip and train my acitve better. I admit I made a mistake in reserve by mixing training with equipment. Sorry for that.

I'm willing to accept (although your numbers are still far to large to sustain a proper training program) that your reservists would be less than (US) as standard, if you instead focused on making your standing higher than (US) standard...however at 7 million troops you still encounter the logistics problem, it is still only feasible to move so much material, across so much territory is such little time. you have the physical boundaries of time and space to compete with, and they don't budge, no matter how much money you throw at them.

further more...if you Military is exceeding 2% of your population, I would calculate Economic ruin into your mix

However I could just be full of hot air

as it stands I can't fight with the little dogs...to tiny

[Gc1mak]

I know, my nation got a really bad navy ( Although I am adding a super battalship to it, muhahaha) and below average air force. So the logistic problem are right, my power projection power are no where near the US, my military focus on the land and now also lean toward air, but navy will only be augmented by adding some nationstate equipments and nothing else.

[Grandtaria]

Our 3 largest citys have 100,000,000 each due to goverment relocation. These are the only citys with Milita. In each city 50% percent are men and 50% of those can fight so i have 75,000,000 Millita. (Yes i think only men sould be able to join the ranks .) Also on top of that there are 25,000,000 enlisted Men spread out of 5 catagorys: Army ,Navy ,Airforce ,Royal Gaurd, and Colonization forces. (Yes I also think colonization and the removel native populations are ethical ideals .)
Thats during wartime. During peace the Milita disbands.

Have a good day.

[Gc1mak]

Since your are militia, I assume they are poorly armed guy not trained but only called upon during homeland defence right?

[Chernobyl-Pripyat]

The standing army is around 4 million in size, with much of the male population as reserves due to conscription.

[Allied Governments]

It is a completely different thing since my nation is larger then them, you do understand that right? This is a militarized Nationstate.

I did the math. 1.1 billion, with 7 million active, is to large to realistically train a force (more elite than the most elite) at some point you hit the wall of physical size, and percentages don't matter. only X amount of supplies, can land at Y airstrips, in Z hours, regardless of budget. further more only A Boot camps, can train B soldiers, in C time. even if you up the time table, you reduce quality. if you lower the time table, you increase quality, but decrease quantity

fairly basic algebra as applied to logistics..it's not rocket science...all though to achieve the goals you set for your military, you would need rocket scientists, simply to work as quartermasters

To be honest, I like RPing with a total Armed Forces of around, say, 4-3 million.

While that to me is extremely realistic, the problem lay with the fact that larger, more nasty nations simply don't care.

So when I fight people like, say, you, I'd RP having the 3-4 million amount, but when I'm RPing with the figurative Big Dogs, I usually have around 50 million (including Non-Combat Personnel in both numbers.)

1% is all I equip for a standing army, and that assumes rigid discipline and training, given a high military budget. that would currently be 140,000 troops

if it is a total war scenario, I have a reserve number, roughly 10% of population for me and even then, given my population, that's taking the men out of the factories and sending them to the front lines

if you took 3-4 against say my homeland....you would still crush me, regardless of how well trained I might be....only insurgence and gorilla warfare would settle at that point

luckily I have defensive alliance

Doing the math, my nation would have an Armed Forces of around 5 million if it had .2% of the population in the Military.

However, I do spend around 28 Trillion dollars for my Annual Defense Budget, I wonder how that would factor in.

you reached the budget calculation how? I use http://www.sunsetrpg.com/economystatist ... n=Lelouche to do mine...it gives me favorable results

at 0.2 percent, you can certainly train the most efficient army imaginable...at 5 million you still have major logistics problems....although 28 Trillion is a huge number....what is your pop? I haven't looked it up

2.628 Billion.

[Aveasta]

Aveasta's military is very small and doesn't play much of a part in international affairs. However, the leader of the military is highly regarded for his participation in defending Aveasta in the 10-years-war, and is the proud, main guardian of Aveasta's ruler, Princess Aurelia.

[Docky]

60 million out of a 3 billion population

[Skibereen]

Regular Peace Time numbers stay around 110,000,000(1%) of the populace +/- .02% .

[Ocasnia]

Read it at our factbook (in the signature)

[Swedex]

0. why should we have a military? let someone else defend us. That's why the motto of our non-existant military is "I don't want to get up, you get up for me"

[Grandtaria]

Since your are militia, I assume they are poorly armed guy not trained but only called upon during homeland defence right?

You are 2/3rds right, But since we are a world leader in arms making they are all given the latest arms and armor. Abit like merchant millita eh?

[Vietnam Empire]

The Vietnam Empire has a total of 48,180,000 million total manpower in all military branches. The numbers of manpower per branch will remain classified, until the updated number is confirmed by the Head of State...

[Allied Governments]

Since your are militia, I assume they are poorly armed guy not trained but only called upon during homeland defence right?

You are 2/3rds right, But since we are a world leader in arms making they are all given the latest arms and armor. Abit like merchant millita eh?

You are not a World Leader in Arms Manufacturing, if that was the case I'm a fucking God at making weapons.

[Verzia]

3,000,000 strong (see signature) but our army's' special weapons would basically crush an army of up to 10,000,000, but we are part of an alliance, so we are very secure.

[Allied Governments]

3,000,000 strong (see signature) but our army's' special weapons would basically crush an army of up to 10,000,000, but we are part of an alliance, so we are very secure.

There comes a point in terms of Quality and Quantity where having the best weapons in return for a smaller army is actually a detriment.

[Illithar]

During peactime, it would be at about 2-3% of the total population. I don't feel like doing math.

[Slazenagara]

Mine is a total of 19,000,000

[Gebeta]

91000 spread among the Kriegsmarine, Waffen, Luftwaffe, and Panzers Core.
300 in the special forces FlugerWaffa

[Grandtaria]

Since your are militia, I assume they are poorly armed guy not trained but only called upon during homeland defence right?

You are 2/3rds right, But since we are a world leader in arms making they are all given the latest arms and armor. Abit like merchant millita eh?

You are not a World Leader in Arms Manufacturing, if that was the case I'm a fucking God at making weapons.

It says that we were a powerhouse in Arms Manufacturing . And please dont swear like a bloody fool.

[Lelouche]

3,000,000 strong (see signature) but our army's' special weapons would basically crush an army of up to 10,000,000, but we are part of an alliance, so we are very secure.

There comes a point in terms of Quality and Quantity where having the best weapons in return for a smaller army is actually a detriment.

well three million is more believable elite forces than say 7 million, because of the point I made about pracitcal logistics

however the opposite holds true as well

There Comes a point in terms of Quality and Quantity where having the most men doesn't mean anything if they don't know how to fight

I am reminded of this



Basically it is better to have a Tactically superior smaller force, than a Strategically superior Large force

Smaller forces are simply more mobile and capable

[Strykla]

24,131,312 people are registered to control war machines through a virtual reality network in a time of war. Citizens with basic VR training are told to report to their nearest VR Center when war is declared. They then use a virtual reality system to control machines that can attack enemy nations without the citizens ever leaving Fisenesia. If a machine is damaged beyond working, the citizen can simply switch control to a new machine, preventing casualties.


The closest things to Fisenesian soldiers in the normal sense is our spies, espionage agents, and counter-espionage agents. Fisenesia currently has around 8,400 fully trained espionage agents operating outside of Fisenesia right now. Anyone could be a Fisenesian spy......

Why would you spy on my nation? NOTHING HAPPENS HERE!!!
Except for (lowers voice) nuke testing, weapons building, superweapon building, etc.

[Vidaly]

Vidaly has a Self Defense Force of 1 million to defend the nation in case of a foreign attack.

Article 12 of our constitution forbids war and Vidaly will never use its forces for international expeditions.