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Carls-land
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Postby Carls-land » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:56 am

we have 30 million in the military

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Postby The Dragons Last Meal » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:59 am

of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:
Last edited by The Dragons Last Meal on Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:04 am, edited 3 times in total.
Our government hates us so much we cannot even get away by dying, but on the bright side, they never expect to be killed by a dead man.... Hehehe...

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Postby Bafuria » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:08 am

The Dragons Last Meal wrote:of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:


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Postby Concordant America » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:12 am

Bafuria wrote:
The Dragons Last Meal wrote:of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:


IGNORE cannons locked on.

Ignore Cannons locked on here as well!

BTW: About 1% or less of the population are troops.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:25 am

The Dragons Last Meal wrote:of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:


we were thinking it was thanks to godmodding and numberwanking. Do you even have a CLUE what age groups make up a population? That 97.9% of your population in the military would include everybody over the age of 2?

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Postby ViperLord » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:05 am

60,200,357 total military personnel. (If my calculator hasn't betrayed me, this is about 2% of my population roughly). Of these, about 34 million are active duty personnel.

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Postby Twelve Monkeyz » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:00 pm

Twelve Monkeyz has a military of about 92,500 personall.

The Army of the Twelve Monkeyz is organized into the following:

x1 Armoured Division (2nd Division)
- 15,000 Personal
- 80 Magach 7C MBT
- 200 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 20 M48 Chaparral
- 40 Paladin

x2 Infantry Division (1st and 3rd Divisions)
- 10,000 Personal Each (20k total)
- 20 Magach 7C MBT Each (40)
- 60 M113 APCs Each (120, multiple variations)
- 30 M48 Chaparral Each (60)
- 40 M119 Howitzer Each (80)
- 8 M198 Howitzer Each (16)

Fortress Goines
- 8,700 Personal
- 14 R440 Crotale SAM
- 12 Tomahawk Launchers
- 4 MIM-14 Patriot
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Fortress Cole
- 5,500 Personal
- 20 R440 Crotal SAM
- 26 M48 Chaparral
- 12 M119 Howitzer
- 4 M198 Howitzer

Additionally there are some 10,000 personal spread across multiple duty stations (Training Schools, Recruiters, Administration, ect.)

Auxillary Units (Reserve and Guardsmen)

x1 Mountain Division (4th Division)
- 12,000 Personal
- 60 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 40 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 40 M119 Howitzer
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Additional Units
- 18,800 Personal
- 32 Magach 7C
- 200 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 68 M48 Chaparral
- 10 R440 Crotal SAM
- 20 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 M48 Chaparral
- 90 M119 Howitzer
- 30 M198 Howitzer
- 16 Paladin

Total Army Strength: 80,000 Personal
Total Active Personal: 49,200
Reserves/Guardsmen: 30,800

Equipment:
- 152 Magach 7C
- 580 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 178 M48 Chaparral
- 56 Paladin
- 222 M119 Howitzers
- 90 M198 Howitzers
- 16 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 R440 Crotal SAM
- 60 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 Tomahawk launchers
- 800 HUMVEE
- 1,000 M939A1 Trucks
- 6,000 M1078 Trucks
- FN-FAL is the main Infantry weapon
- 2,600 Stinger
- 200 Gustav Recoiless Rifles
- 4,000 ATGM

The Twelve Monkeyz Air Force

Total Personal: 12,500

Aircraft:
- 48 F-4E
- 12 F-16E
- 12 F-15F
- 2 AWACS Eagle Eye
- 102 UH-1N (28 Gunship, 60 Transport/Utility, 14 Ambulance)
- 12 Chinook
- 14 C-130
- 2 AC-130 Spectre
- 6 KC-10
- 4 T-1 Jayhawk
- 14 T-6 Texan II
- 8 T-38 Talon

Ground Based Vehicles:
- 80 M113 APCs
- 100 M939A1 Trucks
- 300 M1078 Trucks
- 20 HUMVEE
- Various Vehicles for Aircraft Operations (About 340)

Total Aircraft: 236
Total G. Vehicles: 840

(All AA defenses are handled by the Army)

The Armed Republic of the Twelve Monkeyz is a landlocked nation, therefore it has no need for a maritime force. Budget and economic restraints have prevented the Twelve Monkeyz from modernizing her military, although plans are being presented to the government on aquiring more F-16 and F-15 aircraft to phase out the obsolete F-4E Phantom II. Total military personal account for 1.8% of the population.
Last edited by Twelve Monkeyz on Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:01 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:55 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz has a military of about 92,500 personall.

The Army of the Twelve Monkeyz is organized into the following:

x1 Armoured Division (2nd Division)
- 15,000 Personal
- 80 Magach 7C MBT
- 200 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 20 M48 Chaparral
- 40 Paladin

x2 Infantry Division (1st and 3rd Divisions)
- 10,000 Personal Each (20k total)
- 20 Magach 7C MBT Each (40)
- 60 M113 APCs Each (120, multiple variations)
- 30 M48 Chaparral Each (60)
- 40 M119 Howitzer Each (80)
- 8 M198 Howitzer Each (16)

Fortress Goines
- 8,700 Personal
- 14 R440 Crotale SAM
- 12 Tomahawk Launchers
- 4 MIM-104 Patriot
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Fortress Cole
- 5,500 Personal
- 20 R440 Crotal SAM
- 26 M48 Chaparral
- 12 M119 Howitzer
- 4 M198 Howitzer

Additionally there are some 10,000 personal spread across multiple duty stations (Training Schools, Recruiters, Administration, ect.)

Auxillary Units (Reserve and Guardsmen)

x1 Mountain Division (4th Division)
- 12,000 Personal
- 60 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 40 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 40 M119 Howitzer
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Additional Units
- 18,800 Personal
- 32 Magach 7C
- 200 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 68 M48 Chaparral
- 10 R440 Crotal SAM
- 20 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 M48 Chaparral
- 90 M119 Howitzer
- 30 M198 Howitzer
- 16 Paladin

Total Army Strength: 80,000 Personal
Total Active Personal: 49,200
Reserves/Guardsmen: 30,800

Equipment:
- 152 Magach 7C
- 580 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 178 M48 Chaparral
- 56 Paladin
- 222 M119 Howitzers
- 90 M198 Howitzers
- 16 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 R440 Crotal SAM
- 60 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 Tomahawk launchers
- 800 HUMVEE
- 1,000 M939A1 Trucks
- 6,000 M1078 Trucks
- FN-FAL is the main Infantry weapon
- 2,600 Stinger
- 200 Gustav Recoiless Rifles
- 4,000 ATGM

The Twelve Monkeyz Air Force

Total Personal: 12,500

Aircraft:
- 48 F-4E
- 12 F-16E
- 12 F-15F
- 2 AWACS Eagle Eye
- 102 UH-1N (28 Gunship, 60 Transport/Utility, 14 Ambulance)
- 12 Chinook
- 14 C-130
- 2 AC-130 Spectre
- 6 KC-10
- 4 T-1 Jayhawk
- 14 T-6 Texan II
- 8 T-38 Talon

Ground Based Vehicles:
- 80 M113 APCs
- 100 M939A1 Trucks
- 300 M1078 Trucks
- 20 HUMVEE
- Various Vehicles for Aircraft Operations (About 340)

Total Aircraft: 236
Total G. Vehicles: 840

(All AA defenses are handled by the Army)

The Armed Republic of the Twelve Monkeyz is a landlocked nation, therefore it has no need for a maritime force. Budget and economic restraints have prevented the Twelve Monkeyz from modernizing her military, although plans are being presented to the government on aquiring more F-16 and F-15 aircraft to phase out the obsolete F-4E Phantom II. Total military personal account for 1.8% of the population.

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We are in agreement with NN here. It is refreshing to see people go to the time and effort of doing something reasonable, believable and detailed. Those who post "I HAZ TEH HUNERD GAZILLION SUPERMECHANINJARANGERS!!" outrageously large percentages of their population could learn a thing or two.

ok, down off my soapbox now.
Everything you know about me is wrong. Or a rumor. Something like that.

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Postby Twelve Monkeyz » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:08 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz has a military of about 92,500 personall.

The Army of the Twelve Monkeyz is organized into the following:

x1 Armoured Division (2nd Division)
- 15,000 Personal
- 80 Magach 7C MBT
- 200 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 20 M48 Chaparral
- 40 Paladin

x2 Infantry Division (1st and 3rd Divisions)
- 10,000 Personal Each (20k total)
- 20 Magach 7C MBT Each (40)
- 60 M113 APCs Each (120, multiple variations)
- 30 M48 Chaparral Each (60)
- 40 M119 Howitzer Each (80)
- 8 M198 Howitzer Each (16)

Fortress Goines
- 8,700 Personal
- 14 R440 Crotale SAM
- 12 Tomahawk Launchers
- 4 MIM-104 Patriot
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Fortress Cole
- 5,500 Personal
- 20 R440 Crotal SAM
- 26 M48 Chaparral
- 12 M119 Howitzer
- 4 M198 Howitzer

Additionally there are some 10,000 personal spread across multiple duty stations (Training Schools, Recruiters, Administration, ect.)

Auxillary Units (Reserve and Guardsmen)

x1 Mountain Division (4th Division)
- 12,000 Personal
- 60 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 40 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 40 M119 Howitzer
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Additional Units
- 18,800 Personal
- 32 Magach 7C
- 200 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 68 M48 Chaparral
- 10 R440 Crotal SAM
- 20 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 M48 Chaparral
- 90 M119 Howitzer
- 30 M198 Howitzer
- 16 Paladin

Total Army Strength: 80,000 Personal
Total Active Personal: 49,200
Reserves/Guardsmen: 30,800

Equipment:
- 152 Magach 7C
- 580 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 178 M48 Chaparral
- 56 Paladin
- 222 M119 Howitzers
- 90 M198 Howitzers
- 16 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 R440 Crotal SAM
- 60 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 Tomahawk launchers
- 800 HUMVEE
- 1,000 M939A1 Trucks
- 6,000 M1078 Trucks
- FN-FAL is the main Infantry weapon
- 2,600 Stinger
- 200 Gustav Recoiless Rifles
- 4,000 ATGM

The Twelve Monkeyz Air Force

Total Personal: 12,500

Aircraft:
- 48 F-4E
- 12 F-16E
- 12 F-15F
- 2 AWACS Eagle Eye
- 102 UH-1N (28 Gunship, 60 Transport/Utility, 14 Ambulance)
- 12 Chinook
- 14 C-130
- 2 AC-130 Spectre
- 6 KC-10
- 4 T-1 Jayhawk
- 14 T-6 Texan II
- 8 T-38 Talon

Ground Based Vehicles:
- 80 M113 APCs
- 100 M939A1 Trucks
- 300 M1078 Trucks
- 20 HUMVEE
- Various Vehicles for Aircraft Operations (About 340)

Total Aircraft: 236
Total G. Vehicles: 840

(All AA defenses are handled by the Army)

The Armed Republic of the Twelve Monkeyz is a landlocked nation, therefore it has no need for a maritime force. Budget and economic restraints have prevented the Twelve Monkeyz from modernizing her military, although plans are being presented to the government on aquiring more F-16 and F-15 aircraft to phase out the obsolete F-4E Phantom II. Total military personal account for 1.8% of the population.

Oh God, I love you!


We are in agreement with NN here. It is refreshing to see people go to the time and effort of doing something reasonable, believable and detailed. Those who post "I HAZ TEH HUNERD GAZILLION SUPERMECHANINJARANGERS!!" outrageously large percentages of their population could learn a thing or two.

ok, down off my soapbox now.


Thanks. Means a lot to me b/c I spent a couple hours searching through the internet. Just out of curiosity, are my MBT numbers alright for my armoured division (80)? B/c in the event of a war I'd have added the reserves 32 MBTs directly to the Armoured Division which would have raised the total number of tanks to 112.

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Postby The Adrian Empire » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:21 pm

The Dragons Last Meal wrote:of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:

Why would you have 805 milllion people running businesses and then with the massively more money you would have from their production, buy millions upon millions of robots to defend you, seems like the opposite of the right idea.
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Postby South Aropa » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:48 pm

It's not the size of your military that counts, it's the size of thier guns.

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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:50 pm

The Adrian Empire wrote:
The Dragons Last Meal wrote:of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:

Why would you have 805 milllion people running businesses and then with the massively more money you would have from their production, buy millions upon millions of robots to defend you, seems like the opposite of the right idea.

Beyond the population problem, the idea that three of his five branches do pretty much the same thing seems like it would do more harm than good.
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Postby The Anglo-Saxon Empire » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:57 pm

New Nicksyllvania wrote:
The Anglo-Saxon Empire wrote:
The Adrian Empire wrote:
The Dragons Last Meal wrote:of 882 million, 805 million are in the military.

EDIT: our buisinesses require few people because they have been replaced with robots, our govt.consists of 5 pple.

ULTRA-EDIT: Our military is broken down into 5 corps:
AIR FORCE, ARMY, NAVY, MARINES, and GREEN BERETS each have 1/5 of the total.

all thanks to mass produced robots, and a dictatorship...
:twisted:

Why would you have 805 milllion people running businesses and then with the massively more money you would have from their production, buy millions upon millions of robots to defend you, seems like the opposite of the right idea.

Beyond the population problem, the idea that three of his five branches do pretty much the same thing seems like it would do more harm than good.

And it begs the question on why his elite ground forces outnumber his regular ground forces

I doubt that his "elite" guard is that elite.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:05 pm

Twelve Monkeyz wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
New Nicksyllvania wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz has a military of about 92,500 personall.

The Army of the Twelve Monkeyz is organized into the following:

x1 Armoured Division (2nd Division)
- 15,000 Personal
- 80 Magach 7C MBT
- 200 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 20 M48 Chaparral
- 40 Paladin

x2 Infantry Division (1st and 3rd Divisions)
- 10,000 Personal Each (20k total)
- 20 Magach 7C MBT Each (40)
- 60 M113 APCs Each (120, multiple variations)
- 30 M48 Chaparral Each (60)
- 40 M119 Howitzer Each (80)
- 8 M198 Howitzer Each (16)

Fortress Goines
- 8,700 Personal
- 14 R440 Crotale SAM
- 12 Tomahawk Launchers
- 4 MIM-104 Patriot
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Fortress Cole
- 5,500 Personal
- 20 R440 Crotal SAM
- 26 M48 Chaparral
- 12 M119 Howitzer
- 4 M198 Howitzer

Additionally there are some 10,000 personal spread across multiple duty stations (Training Schools, Recruiters, Administration, ect.)

Auxillary Units (Reserve and Guardsmen)

x1 Mountain Division (4th Division)
- 12,000 Personal
- 60 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 40 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 40 M119 Howitzer
- 20 M198 Howitzer

Additional Units
- 18,800 Personal
- 32 Magach 7C
- 200 M113 APC (multiple variations)
- 68 M48 Chaparral
- 10 R440 Crotal SAM
- 20 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 M48 Chaparral
- 90 M119 Howitzer
- 30 M198 Howitzer
- 16 Paladin

Total Army Strength: 80,000 Personal
Total Active Personal: 49,200
Reserves/Guardsmen: 30,800

Equipment:
- 152 Magach 7C
- 580 M113 APCs (multiple variations)
- 178 M48 Chaparral
- 56 Paladin
- 222 M119 Howitzers
- 90 M198 Howitzers
- 16 MIM-14 Patriot
- 44 R440 Crotal SAM
- 60 AN/TWQ-1 Avenger
- 12 Tomahawk launchers
- 800 HUMVEE
- 1,000 M939A1 Trucks
- 6,000 M1078 Trucks
- FN-FAL is the main Infantry weapon
- 2,600 Stinger
- 200 Gustav Recoiless Rifles
- 4,000 ATGM

The Twelve Monkeyz Air Force

Total Personal: 12,500

Aircraft:
- 48 F-4E
- 12 F-16E
- 12 F-15F
- 2 AWACS Eagle Eye
- 102 UH-1N (28 Gunship, 60 Transport/Utility, 14 Ambulance)
- 12 Chinook
- 14 C-130
- 2 AC-130 Spectre
- 6 KC-10
- 4 T-1 Jayhawk
- 14 T-6 Texan II
- 8 T-38 Talon

Ground Based Vehicles:
- 80 M113 APCs
- 100 M939A1 Trucks
- 300 M1078 Trucks
- 20 HUMVEE
- Various Vehicles for Aircraft Operations (About 340)

Total Aircraft: 236
Total G. Vehicles: 840

(All AA defenses are handled by the Army)

The Armed Republic of the Twelve Monkeyz is a landlocked nation, therefore it has no need for a maritime force. Budget and economic restraints have prevented the Twelve Monkeyz from modernizing her military, although plans are being presented to the government on aquiring more F-16 and F-15 aircraft to phase out the obsolete F-4E Phantom II. Total military personal account for 1.8% of the population.

Oh God, I love you!


We are in agreement with NN here. It is refreshing to see people go to the time and effort of doing something reasonable, believable and detailed. Those who post "I HAZ TEH HUNERD GAZILLION SUPERMECHANINJARANGERS!!" outrageously large percentages of their population could learn a thing or two.

ok, down off my soapbox now.


Thanks. Means a lot to me b/c I spent a couple hours searching through the internet. Just out of curiosity, are my MBT numbers alright for my armoured division (80)? B/c in the event of a war I'd have added the reserves 32 MBTs directly to the Armoured Division which would have raised the total number of tanks to 112.


80-112 tanks would be more in line with what a Brigade would have, and there are typically 2-4 Brigades per Division in most armies, so you may be short-changing yourself there, unless you have intentionally small divisions to enhance maneuverability and flexibility.
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Postby Radictistan » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:15 pm

Out of curiosity Twelve Monkeyz, what size armored battalion are you using? Are you going with a 38 tank battalion like the British used to IIRC?

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Postby Sucrati » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:28 pm

6 Million Population with a 5% Military?
(6,000,000*.05=300,000)

300,000 Personnel

Avg 100,000 Per Branch (Marines, Navy, Air Force)

I can't get detailed about how many do what per branch, but still I have a decent defense
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Postby Twelve Monkeyz » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:45 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Twelve Monkeyz wrote:Thanks. Means a lot to me b/c I spent a couple hours searching through the internet. Just out of curiosity, are my MBT numbers alright for my armoured division (80)? B/c in the event of a war I'd have added the reserves 32 MBTs directly to the Armoured Division which would have raised the total number of tanks to 112.


80-112 tanks would be more in line with what a Brigade would have, and there are typically 2-4 Brigades per Division in most armies, so you may be short-changing yourself there, unless you have intentionally small divisions to enhance maneuverability and flexibility.


I prefer to think of my divisions as self-contained armies that have all their logistical and combat needs roled into one, so my armoured division of 15,000 would have approxiatmely 4500 to 7500 combat personal. And with 80 tanks (each with a crew of 4) that accounts for 320 crewman. Dividing the tanks into platoons of 4 gives me a force of about 20 tank platoons on active duty. However, adding the additional 8 platoons that are in reserve brings the total number of T. Platoons to 28, which divides into 7 Tank Companies (roughly two battalions).

Additionally there is the mechanized infantry that support them, so each Mech. Inf. platoon would have about 44 troops (4 M113s plus the 2 crewman for each, so about 52 soldeirs in each platoon). A single MI company would have about 208 combatives (16 APCs), while a battalion (three companies each) would have 624 soldiers; 48 APCs. So perhaps three battalions would be in the A. Division (1872 troops; 144 APCs)

So total personal equates to about 2192 Soldiers; 2320 if I count the reserve tank crews. This still leaves the Paladin and M48 crews to be counted, and the ATGM M113 crews aswell.

M48s have crews of 2, so that equates to 40 crewman for the M48s. The M48s would be divided into platoons of 4, giving me a single AA Company of 5 platoons.

The M901 ITV (a TOW M113 derivative) has a crew of four, and since I want a company of these that gives me a company of 16 of these babies with 64 crewman.

The Paladins, I'm using the A6 versions, have crews of 8, so thats another 320 crew alone. Going by the traditional battery getup I have 10 batteries, divided into companies of three batteries (one company with four). So that'll be a single battalion as all three would be grouped together.

Adding my totals now I have 2616 combatives active duty (2744 including reserve tanks). I'm left with 40 M113s unassigned and (at the minium) 1884 troops to a maxium of 4884 troops left unassigned. Since I have lots of trucks I can utilize motor infantry, so here goes...

Using a platoon of 60 troops, I can have Inf. companies of 240 combatives. Which means I can have a battalion of 960 soldiers. Adding two battalions to the division will mean 1920 troops.

At this point I have a division of some 4536 active duty combat personal, roughly 30% of the division's total manpower (I'm basing this off of 30-50% Army Combatives that some people have refrenced in past posts). That means that I have a logistical and support personal at 10464 (Hospital, Maintence, Cooks, Command Staff, ect) or 69.7-70% of the division's manpower.

That means I'll have the following in my armoured division:

2 Tank Battalions
3 Mech. Inf. Battalions
1 AA Company
1 Anti-Tank Company (M901 ITV)
1 Self-propelled Artillery Battalion (155 Howitzer)
2 Inf. Battalions (Motor Infantry)

The remainder M113s can be assigned to Armoured Command Staff at the Company and Battalion levels (and Mech. Infantry). If I wanted I could add another 2 Motor Infantry Battalions (bringing total combat personal to 6456 combatives) if anyone feels my combat troop levels are a little low. In Which case the number of logistical and support personal would be 8544 (57% of division manpower).

So thoughts?

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:48 pm

nicely thought out and explained.
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Postby The City State Rhydin » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:20 pm

(This is for regional play only)
Active troops: 57,037,000
Reserve Troops: 10,000,000
Total troops: 67,037,000
Military Age: 16 years of age
Fit for military service annually: Age 16-49: 4,188,930
Reaching military age annually: 5,545,700

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Active troops: 5,037,000
Reserve Troops: 1,000,000
Total troops: 6,037,000
Military Age: 16 years of age
Fit for military service annually: Age 16-49: 1,188,930
Reaching military age annually: 1,545,700

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[16] Mechanised Legions
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Postby Solarva » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:06 am

Grays Harbor wrote:nicely thought out and explained.


I agree with Grays here. Very explicit, I like the consideration of logistics in your units too. Not many players do that these days, even with detailed ORBATs.
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Postby Albrante » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:11 am

Solarva wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:nicely thought out and explained.


I agree with Grays here. Very explicit, I like the consideration of logistics in your units too. Not many players do that these days, even with detailed ORBATs.

I remember I, at one point, wrote out completely logistics inclusive ORBATs for three divisions, down to the number of trucks required per company. It took me about three hours for each :roll:
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My army it's famouus first for each big significant numbers and we are using many kind of tactics(most Blitzkrieg)against my enemies.
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Slakonian People's Army.Personnel 85 million active troops and in times of defensive war immediate mobilization happens
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Slakonian People's Air Force.Personnel 40 million active troops and in times of defensive war immediate mobilization happens
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Slakonian People's Navy.Personnel 50 million active troops(many submarines our Navy has)and in times of war immediate mobilization happens.
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People's Nationalist Liberation Army.Personnel 15 million active troops,to join the paramilitary force is voluntary
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Postby Khytenna » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:39 am

Grays Harbor wrote:nicely thought out and explained.


Completly agree to very well worked out. both you and grays habour have made me more interested in cost and logistics of my army. im still working stuff out with budget as we speak :P
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Postby Solarva » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:58 am

Slakonian wrote:My army it's famouus first for each big significant numbers and we are using many kind of tactics(most Blitzkrieg)against my enemies.
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Slakonian People's Army.Personnel 85 million active troops and in times of defensive war immediate mobilization happens
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Slakonian People's Air Force.Personnel 40 million active troops and in times of defensive war immediate mobilization happens
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Slakonian People's Navy.Personnel 50 million active troops(many submarines our Navy has)and in times of war immediate mobilization happens.
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The paramilitary force which is under the orders of the President of the People's Republic of Slakonian and Field Marshall Parker Kleanov
People's Nationalist Liberation Army.Personnel 15 million active troops,to join the paramilitary force is voluntary
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Slakonian People's Army Coat of Arms
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The Slakonian People's Army is Modern very well organized Army,every weapons we have are coming from our own weapon industries,and last this army protects more than a billion people so that means we need many protectors


Hm...lower your military sizes down, stay within a reasonable range with your budget. If you have crafts like upper generation aircrafts or state of the art ships or tanks, that's the more reason why you need to lower your military size in accordance to your military budget. Even if you manage to buy all of them, those crafts would be way overmanned and you have idle personnel running around everywhere.
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Postby Biggie Land » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:04 am

Army:
33,000,000 Soldiers
-11,000,000 Infantry
-1.42% Vehicle Crew: 156,000
-99.40% Regular Infantry: 10,934,000
-22,000,000 Support

XIM-7 Main Battle Tanks: 15,000
-Operators: 4
XIL-7 Light Tanks: 7,000
-Operators: 3
XIB-7 Heavy Tanks: 5,000
-Operators: 5
XIT-7 Troop Movement Tanks: 5,000
-Operators: 3
-Holds: 10
XIS-7 Long Strike Tanks: 5,000
-Operators: 3
XIH-7 Helicopters: 10,000
-Operators: 2
-Holds: 6

Infantry Unit Breakdowns:
Asamt: 100 Soldiers
Brodir: 50 Soldiers
Koera: 25 Soldiers
Vinatta: 10 Soldiers

Number of Asamt Active: 110,000
Number of Armored Units: 1,000
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Navy: 4,745,000
-Units: 1,120,000
-Assault: 1,125,000
-Support: 2,500,000

Number of Fleets: 100

XNAC-7 Aircraft Carriers: 100
Operators: 4000
XNC-8 Cruisers: 200
Operators: 400
XND-7 Destroyers: 400
Operators: 300
XNF-8 Frigates: 200
Operators: 250
XNAS-8 Attack Subs: 400
Operators: 100
XNMS-8 Missile Subs: 200
Operators: 150

XNRO-6 RO/RO Ships: 500
Operators: 100
XNA-6 Assault ships: 500
Operators: 500
XNLS-5 Landing Ships: 500
Operators: 150

XNT-10 Tankers: 6250
Operators: 100
XN-8 Troop Ships: 4166
Operators: 150
XNSS-8 Supply Ships: 2083
Operators: 300
XNRS-7 Repair Ships: 833
Operators: 750

100 Fleets made up of:
2 Aircraft Carriers
2 Cruisers
4 Destroyers
2 Frigates
4 Attack Subs
2 Missile Subs
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Air Force: 1,010,000
-Units: 10,000
-Support: 1,000,000

XAFR-4 Ripper Jet: 2,000
Operators: 1
XAFD-4 Duo-Jest Jet: 1,000
Operators: 2
XAFH-5 Heavy Bomber: 1,000
Operators: 5
XAFR-3 Stealth Tactical Bomber: 1,000
Operators: 1

XAFSP-3 Supply Planes: 5,000
Operators: 8
XAFRP-4 Refuel Planes: 4,000
Operators: 10
XAFTP-3 Transport Planes: 5,000
Operators: 8
XAFR-3 Radar Planes: 5,000
Operators: 8
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Imperial Guard: 60,045,000
-Units: 20,000,000
-Armor: 300,000
-Infantry: 19,700,000
-Support: 40,045,000

XIM-7 Main Battle Tanks: 20,000
-Operators: 4
XIS-7 Long Strike Tanks: 20,000
-Operators: 3
XAFR-4 Ripper Jet: 5,000
-Operators: 1
XIGMMMS-5 Multiple Missiles Moving System: 3750
-Operators: 4
XIGAADS-5 Anti Aircraft Defense System: 40,000
-Operators: 2
XIGSMS-3 Small Missile System: 30,000
-Operators: 2

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