Your Military size?

[Scott Tree]

I could use a new city state

[Cobhanglica]

Our military is soooo, tiny it doesn't exist. Thats because we have none. We follow through peace. And i suggest you deplete your military, too. that way, peace can be spread all through the wonderful planet and no war will be waged

Prepare to be invaded.

You'd have conquered a nation as large as a metropolitan area...doesn't that seem like a waste of time, recources, and money?

Not really. We don't have anything better to do with the army right now except patrol the border wall, and that's dirt cheap. Besides, war stimulates the economy.

Not wars against countries that small. It is not the war, but the boosted industries that stimulate the economy.

We can still loot their treasury and sell everything in their country off to businessmen for quick money. A country of 6 million has to have at least a couple hundred million dollars.

The problem is, unlike ye olde days where they would literally have treasuries of gold, nearly everyone uses bills.

What does that mean? All that money you take is worthless as their government prints it out on the double during the war, causing inflation. Not to mention the international market doesn't look too kindly on bills of non-existant states.

OOC: The USA still keeps a literal stockpile of gold. I'm not sure if other countries do, but that could be looted in the event of a conquest.

IC: We can still sell buildings, farms, roads, artifacts, vehicles, homes, raw materials, land, etc. We are basically taking their country, killing or deporting everyone in it, and then selling off all of their posessions and natural resources.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Our military is soooo, tiny it doesn't exist. Thats because we have none. We follow through peace. And i suggest you deplete your military, too. that way, peace can be spread all through the wonderful planet and no war will be waged

Prepare to be invaded.

You'd have conquered a nation as large as a metropolitan area...doesn't that seem like a waste of time, recources, and money?

Not really. We don't have anything better to do with the army right now except patrol the border wall, and that's dirt cheap. Besides, war stimulates the economy.

Not wars against countries that small. It is not the war, but the boosted industries that stimulate the economy.

We can still loot their treasury and sell everything in their country off to businessmen for quick money. A country of 6 million has to have at least a couple hundred million dollars.

The problem is, unlike ye olde days where they would literally have treasuries of gold, nearly everyone uses bills.

What does that mean? All that money you take is worthless as their government prints it out on the double during the war, causing inflation. Not to mention the international market doesn't look too kindly on bills of non-existant states.

OOC: The USA still keeps a literal stockpile of gold. I'm not sure if other countries do, but that could be looted in the event of a conquest.

IC: We can still sell buildings, farms, roads, artifacts, vehicles, homes, raw materials, land, etc.

Even all of the gold at fort Knox isn't that much only a couple hundred million dollars worth I think.

[Cobhanglica]

Our military is soooo, tiny it doesn't exist. Thats because we have none. We follow through peace. And i suggest you deplete your military, too. that way, peace can be spread all through the wonderful planet and no war will be waged

Prepare to be invaded.

You'd have conquered a nation as large as a metropolitan area...doesn't that seem like a waste of time, recources, and money?

Not really. We don't have anything better to do with the army right now except patrol the border wall, and that's dirt cheap. Besides, war stimulates the economy.

Not wars against countries that small. It is not the war, but the boosted industries that stimulate the economy.

We can still loot their treasury and sell everything in their country off to businessmen for quick money. A country of 6 million has to have at least a couple hundred million dollars.

The problem is, unlike ye olde days where they would literally have treasuries of gold, nearly everyone uses bills.

What does that mean? All that money you take is worthless as their government prints it out on the double during the war, causing inflation. Not to mention the international market doesn't look too kindly on bills of non-existant states.

OOC: The USA still keeps a literal stockpile of gold. I'm not sure if other countries do, but that could be looted in the event of a conquest.

IC: We can still sell buildings, farms, roads, artifacts, vehicles, homes, raw materials, land, etc.

Even all of the gold at fort Knox isn't that much only a couple hundred million dollars worth I think.

Billion, my friend. Billion.

[Cobhanglica]

True, but nowhere near a level to make war in itself profitable against another modern force.

They already said that they have no military. So basically, all we have to do is drive a bunch of conscripts in Humvees up to the government building, execute the leaders, and raise the Confederate States flag over the building. Anyone who complains gets a 7.62mm pacifier.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

True, but nowhere near a level to make war in itself profitable against another modern force.

They already said that they have no military. So basically, all we have to do is drive a bunch of conscripts in Humvees up to the government building, execute the leaders, and raise the Confederate States flag over the building. Anyone who complains gets a 7.62mm pacifier.

Do you think the citizens will let you waltz in and destroy their lives? Even if the military doesn't intervene you can expect citizens to grab their shot guns and hunting rifles and shoot at your soldiers.

[Cobhanglica]

True, but nowhere near a level to make war in itself profitable against another modern force.

They already said that they have no military. So basically, all we have to do is drive a bunch of conscripts in Humvees up to the government building, execute the leaders, and raise the Confederate States flag over the building. Anyone who complains gets a 7.62mm pacifier.

Do you think the citizens will let you waltz in and destroy their lives? Even if the military doesn't intervene you can expect citizens to grab their shot guns and hunting rifles and shoot at your soldiers.

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

True, but nowhere near a level to make war in itself profitable against another modern force.

They already said that they have no military. So basically, all we have to do is drive a bunch of conscripts in Humvees up to the government building, execute the leaders, and raise the Confederate States flag over the building. Anyone who complains gets a 7.62mm pacifier.

Do you think the citizens will let you waltz in and destroy their lives? Even if the military doesn't intervene you can expect citizens to grab their shot guns and hunting rifles and shoot at your soldiers.

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

Yes you can the USSR lost a massive percentage of its population in WW2 and barely even flinched (granted it wasn't 60%) all that your tactics would do is give the civilians even more reason to continue. Also if you destroy everything than you will gain nothing. You won't be able to sell property because it is worthless, you can't sell slaves because most of the population is dead, you basically threw away lots of lives for a useless chunk of land.

[Evil Diplomats]

Out of the Evil Diplomat's 6.667 Billion people, only 3% are in the military. That roughly works out too 13 Million. But these are peace time statistics.

[Fatatatutti]

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

You're really not thinking this through, are you? The profit margin in this little venture would be pretty thin to begin with, and now you're talking about destroying the inventory.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Out of the Evil Diplomat's 6.667 Billion people, only 3% are in the military. That roughly works out too 13 Million. But these are peace time statistics.

You fail math forever.

[Anemos Major]

Out of the Evil Diplomat's 6.667 Billion people, only 3% are in the military. That roughly works out too 13 Million. But these are peace time statistics.

You fail math forever.

I... I don't get it. How did he reach that conclusion?

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

You're really not thinking this through, are you? The profit margin in this little venture would be pretty thin to begin with, and now you're talking about destroying the inventory.

Here's a better way to profit: you invade small country, I use this as a Casus Belli, deploy all those chemical weapons from WWII that I was planning to get rid of in the first place, kill everything that isn't dead, sell everything in your country, from your military stockpiles to the concrete of your buildings, make much money, then wait for the chemicals to dissipate and occupy the nation, using your natural resources to create another industrial powerbase.

[Cobhanglica]

True, but nowhere near a level to make war in itself profitable against another modern force.

They already said that they have no military. So basically, all we have to do is drive a bunch of conscripts in Humvees up to the government building, execute the leaders, and raise the Confederate States flag over the building. Anyone who complains gets a 7.62mm pacifier.

Do you think the citizens will let you waltz in and destroy their lives? Even if the military doesn't intervene you can expect citizens to grab their shot guns and hunting rifles and shoot at your soldiers.

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

Yes you can the USSR lost a massive percentage of its population in WW2 and barely even flinched (granted it wasn't 60%) all that your tactics would do is give the civilians even more reason to continue. Also if you destroy everything than you will gain nothing. You won't be able to sell property because it is worthless, you can't sell slaves because most of the population is dead, you basically threw away lots of lives for a useless chunk of land.

Natural resources. And we can also recycle everything we destroyed into raw materials. Besides, we need something for the military to kill.

[Marcurix]

True, but nowhere near a level to make war in itself profitable against another modern force.

They already said that they have no military. So basically, all we have to do is drive a bunch of conscripts in Humvees up to the government building, execute the leaders, and raise the Confederate States flag over the building. Anyone who complains gets a 7.62mm pacifier.

Do you think the citizens will let you waltz in and destroy their lives? Even if the military doesn't intervene you can expect citizens to grab their shot guns and hunting rifles and shoot at your soldiers.

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

Yes you can the USSR lost a massive percentage of its population in WW2 and barely even flinched (granted it wasn't 60%) all that your tactics would do is give the civilians even more reason to continue. Also if you destroy everything than you will gain nothing. You won't be able to sell property because it is worthless, you can't sell slaves because most of the population is dead, you basically threw away lots of lives for a useless chunk of land.

Natural resources. And we can also recycle everything we destroyed into raw materials. Besides, we need something for the military to kill.

Hate to bust your fun dear chap, but I cannot simply let you waltz in and invade the country, despite this being quite off topic.

Now back onto topic.

[Ancient and Holy Terra]

I don't wish to go off-topic, but nobody will simply allow you to invade a small nation that espouses peace. Sorry for the quick hijack; carry on.

[Grandtaria]

Our military is soooo, tiny it doesn't exist. Thats because we have none. We follow through peace. And i suggest you deplete your military, too. that way, peace can be spread all through the wonderful planet and no war will be waged

Prepare to be invaded.

You'd have conquered a nation as large as a metropolitan area...doesn't that seem like a waste of time, recources, and money?

Not really. We don't have anything better to do with the army right now except patrol the border wall, and that's dirt cheap. Besides, war stimulates the economy.

Not wars against countries that small. It is not the war, but the boosted industries that stimulate the economy.

We can still loot their treasury and sell everything in their country off to businessmen for quick money. A country of 6 million has to have at least a couple hundred million dollars.

The problem is, unlike ye olde days where they would literally have treasuries of gold, nearly everyone uses bills.

What does that mean? All that money you take is worthless as their government prints it out on the double during the war, causing inflation. Not to mention the international market doesn't look too kindly on bills of non-existant states.

OOC: The USA still keeps a literal stockpile of gold. I'm not sure if other countries do, but that could be looted in the event of a conquest.

IC: We can still sell buildings, farms, roads, artifacts, vehicles, homes, raw materials, land, etc. We are basically taking their country, killing or deporting everyone in it, and then selling off all of their posessions and natural resources.

Your spot on about the gold. Infact if im not wrong malta has a MASSIVE stock pile of gold.

[Grays Harbor]

9,867,435 total. 5,067,435 active duty, and 4,800,000. We have conscription.

You have conscription. whoopee. That still does not justify nearly 20% of your population in the military.

[O5vx]

12 million solders.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

For dealing with upstart foreign insurgents, we have flamethrowers, gas, and carpet bombing. For every soldier killed by insurgents, we execute 1000 civilians. If an officer is killed, we will burn an entire neighborhood to the ground. Cobhanglica's approach to counterinsurgency warfare is "kill everyone". Simple, but you can't really fight back when 60% of your population is dead.

That never stopped Yugoslavia, and they were eventually victorious. The thing is, nomater how many people you kill and opress, you can never dampen the spirit of rebellious nature. And with brutal and genocidal practices you won't make rebels, you'll eventually make fanatics.

[Lhazastan]

MT: we don't really have any exact figures, since we don't even know exactly how many people there are in Lhazastan, but going off the recent count of total citizenships processed, our military is around .1% (a tenth of a percent) of the population

[Neo Prutenia]

That never stopped Yugoslavia, and they were eventually victorious. The thing is, nomater how many people you kill and opress, you can never dampen the spirit of rebellious nature. And with brutal and genocidal practices you won't make rebels, you'll eventually make fanatics.

I guess you are refering to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, not the later Socialist Republic. In that case, true. They even managed to create the first liberated state, if short-lived, in Nazi-occupied Europe. Another, perhaps even better example, would be Afghanistan. Those people have been oppressed for centuries, and continue to struggle to this day.

Kill 'em all policies simply don't work - they just make everybody fight even harder. Even if your soldiers are supremely trained and equiped, they can still be killed by one bullet. Perhaps one of your soldeirs could kill 1, 2 or even 3 enemy militias in a fight, but he won't be able to kill 10 of them. Besides, you cannot simply assume that your soldiers will kill so many people without remorse or regard. They are still human being after all, not machines. Even the Nazis had to use special forces trained just for that - the SS units. Normal soldiers weren't really into that kind of work, mostly because they would go insane very soon. We call that combat stress.

[Augarundus]

Of the 120,000,000 Augarians, 600,000 serve in the military in some form. Though all are combat-trained, very few are actually deployed for combat, and the strike force of Augarians is very small. Logistics is largely handled by the private industry.

[The King Penguins]

Every penguin is ready and willing to die for the future of his species. God Save the King (Penguin)!

[Santheres]

Of the 120,000,000 Augarians, 600,000 serve in the military in some form. Though all are combat-trained, very few are actually deployed for combat, and the strike force of Augarians is very small. Logistics is largely handled by the private industry.

Why would you have support handled by private industry? You realize that support is a whole lot more than just moving materiel, right? Logistics personnel are still going to be next to the fighting, often caught in it, and they handle a lot of sensitive information and equipment, and are responsible for very important tasks you shouldn't trust to private industry.

But acknowledging that might get in the way of wanking your military, I suppose.

[New Balkaney]

The numbers for the Armada and Enforcers have been risen from 959,000 to 1,059,000 New Balkans.

This number breaks down into:

Service personell breaks down into:
1st Armada -
500,000 - Armada Crewmen
10,000 Crewman per Fleets 1-50.
3rd Federal Army -
50,000 - 3rd Enforcers Division
50,000 - 4th Enforcers Division
50,000 - 5th Enforcers Division
50,000 - 6th Enforcers Division
50,000 - 7th Enforcers Division
50,000 - 8th Enforcers Division
10,000 - 1st Special Services Division
20,000 - 2nd Federal Armored Division
20,000 - 3rd Federal Armored Division
5th Shock Army -
50,000 - 5th Shock Division (Sturmtruppen)
50,000 - 6th Shock Division (Sturmtruppen)
50,000 - 7th Shock Division (Sturmtruppen)
50,000 - 8th Shock Division (Sturmtruppen)
7,500 - 115th Rapid Assault Infantry Division (Raiders)
1,500 - 116th Rapid Assault Infantry Divison (Raiders)

Activated/Deactivated Fleets remain in the same standing as previously listed.

Money spent "per soldier" is FC 814,381.

Enlisted personnel remains at .22% of the total population.