Your Military size?

[Nitom]

Army

- 107,200,000 soldiers
- 100,000 tanks
- 36,500 artillery pieces
- 21,000 gunships
- 14,300 helicopters
- 26,800 SPGs
- 14,350 IFV's
- 30,000 MBTs
- 17,100 Heavy Tanks


air force

- 764 harrier's
- 692 tornado's
- 1,505 F-15's
- 975 transport aircraft
- 898 reconnaissance aircraft
- 412 preditor drone's
- 663 mk-5 killer's
- 985 F-18's
- 1,973 F-26's
- 995 F-39's
- 583 F-16's

navy

- 300 aircraft carriers
- 980 cruisers
- 668 destroyers
- 359 battleships
- 530 frigates
- 471 submarines
- 6,564 LPH
- 10,148 Auxiliaries

missles

- 2,043 cruise missles
- 2,935 v-2 missles

[Anemos Major]

Army

- 107,200,000 soldiers
- 100,000 tanks
- 36,500 artillery pieces
- 21,000 gunships
- 14,300 helicopters
- 26,800 SPGs
- 14,350 IFV's
- 30,000 MBTs
- 17,100 Heavy Tanks


air force

- 764 harrier's
- 692 tornado's
- 1,505 F-15's
- 975 transport aircraft
- 898 reconnaissance aircraft
- 412 preditor drone's
- 663 mk-5 killer's
- 985 F-18's
- 1,973 F-26's
- 995 F-39's
- 583 F-16's

navy

- 300 aircraft carriers
- 980 cruisers
- 668 destroyers
- 359 battleships
- 530 frigates
- 471 submarines
- 6,564 LPH
- 10,148 Auxiliaries

missles

- 2,043 cruise missles
- 2,935 v-2 missles

No.

[Jeuna]

• 1,927,989 active
• 3,118,425 reserve
• 754,675 paramilitary
• 5,801,089 total
• 10.9 total per 1000 capita
• 3.6 active per 1000 capita

[Alexadia]

Our military is approximately 12% of our population, with percentages reaching as high as half of our population in times of crisis. All citizens are trained in high school to respond to cases of national emergencies, such as invasion or natural disaster. We find it necessary to have a population constantly in ample physical condition.

Our economy is prepared for military mobilization, with work conditions being safe enough for pre-teens to operate stations while adults are off to war.

[Grays Harbor]

Our military is approximately 12% of our population, with percentages reaching as high as half of our population in times of crisis. All citizens are trained in high school to respond to cases of national emergencies, such as invasion or natural disaster. We find it necessary to have a population constantly in ample physical condition.

Our economy is prepared for military mobilization, with work conditions being safe enough for pre-teens to operate stations while adults are off to war.

And another one who thinks big numbers will impress people, regardless of how many times so many people who know so much more about this subject have posted hints, suggestions, reccomendations and links pointing out that 12% IS an extreme wartime percentage and that anything over that is pretty much twaddle and anything 50% and up is nothing but laugh worthy.

I was going to make another of the posts pointing out examples and explanations on how it is unfeasable, but then hit "delete" because nobody ever bloody well listens anyhow.

So go ahead with your number wanking. I'm sure you will find plenty of people to RP with. Just not very many who are good at it though.

Its about the story telling, not the number wanking.

[Sailsia]

168,404,500 Militia

18,737,000 Full Time Military

2,810,550 Full Time Deployable Military

[Alexadia]

Our military is approximately 12% of our population, with percentages reaching as high as half of our population in times of crisis. All citizens are trained in high school to respond to cases of national emergencies, such as invasion or natural disaster. We find it necessary to have a population constantly in ample physical condition.

Our economy is prepared for military mobilization, with work conditions being safe enough for pre-teens to operate stations while adults are off to war.

And another one who thinks big numbers will impress people, regardless of how many times so many people who know so much more about this subject have posted hints, suggestions, reccomendations and links pointing out that 12% IS an extreme wartime percentage and that anything over that is pretty much twaddle and anything 50% and up is nothing but laugh worthy.

I was going to make another of the posts pointing out examples and explanations on how it is unfeasable, but then hit "delete" because nobody ever bloody well listens anyhow.

So go ahead with your number wanking. I'm sure you will find plenty of people to RP with. Just not very many who are good at it though.

Its about the story telling, not the number wanking.

It sounds to me like you are the one 'wanking' to his own philosophy. Stick to your own ways and I will stick to mines, they have served me well so far and will continue to do so. Have a nice day, in the worst possible way.

[The Anglo-Saxon Empire]

Our military is approximately 12% of our population, with percentages reaching as high as half of our population in times of crisis. All citizens are trained in high school to respond to cases of national emergencies, such as invasion or natural disaster. We find it necessary to have a population constantly in ample physical condition.

Our economy is prepared for military mobilization, with work conditions being safe enough for pre-teens to operate stations while adults are off to war.

And another one who thinks big numbers will impress people, regardless of how many times so many people who know so much more about this subject have posted hints, suggestions, reccomendations and links pointing out that 12% IS an extreme wartime percentage and that anything over that is pretty much twaddle and anything 50% and up is nothing but laugh worthy.

I was going to make another of the posts pointing out examples and explanations on how it is unfeasable, but then hit "delete" because nobody ever bloody well listens anyhow.

So go ahead with your number wanking. I'm sure you will find plenty of people to RP with. Just not very many who are good at it though.

Its about the story telling, not the number wanking.

It sounds to me like you are the one 'wanking' to his own philosophy. Stick to your own ways and I will stick to mines, they have served me well so far and will continue to do so. Have a nice day, in the worst possible way.

Even if you could somehow field 12 percent of your population (50% would probably include all men and women between about 10 years old and 60 years old) your army would be armed with sticks and stones (literally).

[Satirius]

20 million total, of which 1.62 is active, the rest being conscripts mostly trained to deliver supplies intact and nothing more, and some artillerymen and penal infantry, both listed under Conscriptory registers.

[Grays Harbor]

Our military is approximately 12% of our population, with percentages reaching as high as half of our population in times of crisis. All citizens are trained in high school to respond to cases of national emergencies, such as invasion or natural disaster. We find it necessary to have a population constantly in ample physical condition.

Our economy is prepared for military mobilization, with work conditions being safe enough for pre-teens to operate stations while adults are off to war.

And another one who thinks big numbers will impress people, regardless of how many times so many people who know so much more about this subject have posted hints, suggestions, reccomendations and links pointing out that 12% IS an extreme wartime percentage and that anything over that is pretty much twaddle and anything 50% and up is nothing but laugh worthy.

I was going to make another of the posts pointing out examples and explanations on how it is unfeasable, but then hit "delete" because nobody ever bloody well listens anyhow.

So go ahead with your number wanking. I'm sure you will find plenty of people to RP with. Just not very many who are good at it though.

Its about the story telling, not the number wanking.

It sounds to me like you are the one 'wanking' to his own philosophy. Stick to your own ways and I will stick to mines, they have served me well so far and will continue to do so. Have a nice day, in the worst possible way.

ok, I always hate to bring this up, but you have been here for 2 months. I've been here for 7 years. I may have a bit more experience at this then you, as well as a degree in military history and 16 years in the army. It is not just "my" philosophy as you so blithely put it, but the opinion and experience of a great many people here who have spent a considerable amount of time researching this issue. 50% is just stupid shit and not at all possible on a sustainable basis. Not and have your economy not roll over and die.

But, you're right. You can do as you wish and nobody can stop you. Of course, it also means that many people don't have to RP with you in any meaningful way, which is the entire point of this RP section, the interaction.

[Saint Abbra]

With the Saint Abbran population stabilizing at 400 millions, the military has been expanded to approximately 3 million in service, and of these only half a million are trained for active duty. Each soldier has had about 630 000 dollar invested into his equipment and training each year. The exact make up of the army is a trade secret.
The rest, the 2.5 million remaining in service, are grouped into the military police, the secret police, administration and scientific warfare.
The scientific warfare programme currently employs about 500 000 people, including its own administration. They are responsible for the Nuclear Warfare Programme (SA-NWP) and its' sub-sector the Star Bee project (SA-SB). They spend approximately half of the remaining budget (Just below 200 billion), giving them leeway to test and produce nuclear weapons in a great scale. The Saint Abbran reliance on nuclear weapons as deterrent is well known, and she liberally tests her WMDs.
The rest of the budget (About 200 billion) is used for administration, policing and the rudimentary training Saint Abbra gives her conscripts. In the theoretic example where Saint Abbra could field the whole army of conscripts, it would number more than 200 million people.


Edit: Forgot a sentence.

[Jordan Harvey]

Well-over 120 million, including recruits, clones of the Lord-Emperor himself that are consistently replenished when numbers dwindle from battle, undead soldiers, JRD droid units, and test-tube genetic-engineered super-soldiers.

[ZellDincht]

The Nation of ZellDincht comtains 135 million people. Of the 135million, the military size is 100K. ZellDincht is neutral in most disputes and as such has not diverted many funds to the military. In time of war more funds will be diverted to all branches of the military. The nation of ZellDincht is a peaceful one and prays the day for war may never come.

[Solarva]

Despite upcoming conflicts that might erupt within next couple months, the Solarvan military have reduced its number of total military personnel (active/reserves) from 15 million to 12.5 million over the past year along with declines with the military budget to maintain its sizable navy, air force, and other departments and materials as well as keeping enough money for research and reliable, high-tech weaponry.

[Anemos Major]

Our military is approximately 12% of our population, with percentages reaching as high as half of our population in times of crisis. All citizens are trained in high school to respond to cases of national emergencies, such as invasion or natural disaster. We find it necessary to have a population constantly in ample physical condition.

Our economy is prepared for military mobilization, with work conditions being safe enough for pre-teens to operate stations while adults are off to war.

And another one who thinks big numbers will impress people, regardless of how many times so many people who know so much more about this subject have posted hints, suggestions, reccomendations and links pointing out that 12% IS an extreme wartime percentage and that anything over that is pretty much twaddle and anything 50% and up is nothing but laugh worthy.

I was going to make another of the posts pointing out examples and explanations on how it is unfeasable, but then hit "delete" because nobody ever bloody well listens anyhow.

So go ahead with your number wanking. I'm sure you will find plenty of people to RP with. Just not very many who are good at it though.

Its about the story telling, not the number wanking.

It sounds to me like you are the one 'wanking' to his own philosophy. Stick to your own ways and I will stick to mines, they have served me well so far and will continue to do so. Have a nice day, in the worst possible way.

Just a little tip; Grays is actually one of the best RPers out there; you may each have your own 'philosophies', but his one is the popularly acknowledged one. If you want to RP on NS, you'll do well to adopt it as well; otherwise, and I hesitate to say this, but please get out. We don't have room for people who think they know better.

France conscripted 12 percent of its population, once. After that, we were mired in debt, half our nation was ravaged, extremism was rife and we had to extort money off Germany. It doesn't end well, trust me.

[Mikedor]

Navy:
1 Aircraft Carrier (DMS Nouveau Brest)
2 Amphibious Assault ships (DMS Aegis)
10 Frigates (DMS Icarus, DMS Hermes, DMS Daedalus, DMS Ares, DMS Hephaestos, DMS Helios, DMS Apollo, DMS Artemis, DMS Hera, DMS Athene)
2 SSN's (DMS Acheron, DMS Styx)

Marines:
1st Marine Divison (Expeditionary): 'Dominion Vanguard'
2nd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Unbreaking Line'
3rd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Defiant Shield'
4th Marine Division (Coastal Defence): 'Vigilant Sentinel'
5th Marine Division (Territorial): 'People's Defence'

Something like this. I don't know too much about your nation, so I dug up what I could find. (note: This is for Mikado)

Cheers, I like that

[Anemos Major]

The Nation of ZellDincht comtains 135 million people. Of the 135million, the military size is 100K. ZellDincht is neutral in most disputes and as such has not diverted many funds to the military. In time of war more funds will be diverted to all branches of the military. The nation of ZellDincht is a peaceful one and prays the day for war may never come.

Ooh... more funds doesn't mean better. Here's an idea; maintain a stockpile of military equipment, hire civilian contractors to maintain it all in working condition (from guns to ground attack fighters) and establish shadow ORBATs (i.e. establish a conscription system where a citizen is assigned to a military formation at maturity, trains for two months, and has to attend fresher courses once every three years). It's what I do with my conscript services.

[Anemos Major]

Navy:
1 Aircraft Carrier (DMS Nouveau Brest)
2 Amphibious Assault ships (DMS Aegis)
10 Frigates (DMS Icarus, DMS Hermes, DMS Daedalus, DMS Ares, DMS Hephaestos, DMS Helios, DMS Apollo, DMS Artemis, DMS Hera, DMS Athene)
2 SSN's (DMS Acheron, DMS Styx)

Marines:
1st Marine Divison (Expeditionary): 'Dominion Vanguard'
2nd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Unbreaking Line'
3rd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Defiant Shield'
4th Marine Division (Coastal Defence): 'Vigilant Sentinel'
5th Marine Division (Territorial): 'People's Defence'

Something like this. I don't know too much about your nation, so I dug up what I could find. (note: This is for Mikado)

Cheers, I like that

[Mikedor]

[spoiler]

Navy:
1 Aircraft Carrier (DMS Nouveau Brest)
2 Amphibious Assault ships (DMS Aegis)
10 Frigates (DMS Icarus, DMS Hermes, DMS Daedalus, DMS Ares, DMS Hephaestos, DMS Helios, DMS Apollo, DMS Artemis, DMS Hera, DMS Athene)
2 SSN's (DMS Acheron, DMS Styx)

Marines:
1st Marine Divison (Expeditionary): 'Dominion Vanguard'
2nd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Unbreaking Line'
3rd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Defiant Shield'
4th Marine Division (Coastal Defence): 'Vigilant Sentinel'
5th Marine Division (Territorial): 'People's Defence'

Something like this. I don't know too much about your nation, so I dug up what I could find. (note: This is for Mikado)

Cheers, I like that

A few additions:

Navy: Naval Infantry Battalion 01
-A pool of combat-trained Navy personnel from which troops assigned to defend surface combatants, major Navy installations and special forces operators are drawn. Also contains the Dominion Navy's Guard of Honour.

Unorthodox Operations Command:
Marines
1st Marine Parachutist Battalion
-Forward striking force, using parachute and/or heliborne entry to operate behind enemy lines. Like, say, the 101st Airborne. They also have a unit of pathfinders who are experts on multiple forms of terrain, giving them the ability to navigate through the most foreign areas without difficulty.
The Marine Scouting Company (Armed Reconnaissance)
-Like Force Recon, in effect, although these troops are trained to use long range patrol vehicles (like the SAS). Operators are all qualified combat air controllers and naval gunfire directors.
147th Psychological Operations Company
-A hearts and minds group, dedicated to scouting out potential conflict areas, understanding the opponent and defusing potential hostile situations peacefully.

Navy
Naval Subaqua Operations and Demolitions (NSOD) Group
-A demolitions unit specialising in high-seas sabotage, these operators are trained to work around ships, and are generally employed to sabotage enemy vessels where necessary.
NUO (Naval Unorthodox Operations) Unit
-Typical Special Forces. Specialise in rear area infiltration, as well as PsyOps and other clandestine activities such as assassination and sabotage.

[/spoiler]

wow, thanks

[Anemos Major]

[spoiler]

Navy:
1 Aircraft Carrier (DMS Nouveau Brest)
2 Amphibious Assault ships (DMS Aegis)
10 Frigates (DMS Icarus, DMS Hermes, DMS Daedalus, DMS Ares, DMS Hephaestos, DMS Helios, DMS Apollo, DMS Artemis, DMS Hera, DMS Athene)
2 SSN's (DMS Acheron, DMS Styx)

Marines:
1st Marine Divison (Expeditionary): 'Dominion Vanguard'
2nd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Unbreaking Line'
3rd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Defiant Shield'
4th Marine Division (Coastal Defence): 'Vigilant Sentinel'
5th Marine Division (Territorial): 'People's Defence'

Something like this. I don't know too much about your nation, so I dug up what I could find. (note: This is for Mikado)

Cheers, I like that

[Mikedor]

[spoiler]

[spoiler]

Navy:
1 Aircraft Carrier (DMS Nouveau Brest)
2 Amphibious Assault ships (DMS Aegis)
10 Frigates (DMS Icarus, DMS Hermes, DMS Daedalus, DMS Ares, DMS Hephaestos, DMS Helios, DMS Apollo, DMS Artemis, DMS Hera, DMS Athene)
2 SSN's (DMS Acheron, DMS Styx)

Marines:
1st Marine Divison (Expeditionary): 'Dominion Vanguard'
2nd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Unbreaking Line'
3rd Marine Division (Home Defence): 'Defiant Shield'
4th Marine Division (Coastal Defence): 'Vigilant Sentinel'
5th Marine Division (Territorial): 'People's Defence'

Something like this. I don't know too much about your nation, so I dug up what I could find. (note: This is for Mikado)

Cheers, I like that

A few additions:

Navy: Naval Infantry Battalion 01
-A pool of combat-trained Navy personnel from which troops assigned to defend surface combatants, major Navy installations and special forces operators are drawn. Also contains the Dominion Navy's Guard of Honour.

Unorthodox Operations Command:
Marines
1st Marine Parachutist Battalion
-Forward striking force, using parachute and/or heliborne entry to operate behind enemy lines. Like, say, the 101st Airborne. They also have a unit of pathfinders who are experts on multiple forms of terrain, giving them the ability to navigate through the most foreign areas without difficulty.
The Marine Scouting Company (Armed Reconnaissance)
-Like Force Recon, in effect, although these troops are trained to use long range patrol vehicles (like the SAS). Operators are all qualified combat air controllers and naval gunfire directors.
147th Psychological Operations Company
-A hearts and minds group, dedicated to scouting out potential conflict areas, understanding the opponent and defusing potential hostile situations peacefully.

Navy
Naval Subaqua Operations and Demolitions (NSOD) Group
-A demolitions unit specialising in high-seas sabotage, these operators are trained to work around ships, and are generally employed to sabotage enemy vessels where necessary.
NUO (Naval Unorthodox Operations) Unit
-Typical Special Forces. Specialise in rear area infiltration, as well as PsyOps and other clandestine activities such as assassination and sabotage.

[Pretty Awesome Persons]

3% of my population is the army, making a total of 2,940,000. Is that too high?

[Kekhistan and Altius]

Militia reserve:10,028,430
Police;20,949,000
Army:15,000,000
Air Defense:2,000,204
Navy:3,430,095
Coast Guard:2,385,410
Royal Marines:???
Sniper Corps:????

[Iyndolen]

Current Adjusted military:

Armed forces: 280,000
Police (a branch of the military by Iyndolen standards): 302,610
Coast Guard: 172,620
Total Population: 8 million
%Military force: 3.5%

[Beth Gellert]

3% of my population is the army, making a total of 2,940,000. Is that too high?

It depends on your nation's character and circumstances. In the modern age it is possible for a nation to maintain armed forces accounting for 3% of the population, but it can hardly be called conducive to prosperity in most economies. I notice you say 'army' and wonder whether this excludes other branches or is used as an umbrella term for the whole of the armed forces. If the latter is true, this makes you more militarised than Israel, but less than North Korea, assuming you're refering to ready forces and not including reserves et cetera.

It would require fairly extensive conscription, and the majority of your military would not be volunteers.

But, if you have powerful enemies, and especially if you're isolated and outnumbered, or if you're planning an imperialist rampage in the near future, 3% is justifiable and potentially sustainable.