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Postby Puzikas » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:15 pm

Magnetic rifle best EVA rifle.
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:17 pm

New Visegrad wrote:Once more
Smoothbore BR for EVA work, y/n?



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Postby New Visegrad » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:50 pm

Here is PMG version
Image

As mentioned earlier, I was following on from the Bora-Acorn Gladius low-velocity rifle in terms of design. It has a long barrel to ensure accuracy, and the optic is stood off from the main chassis to avoid heat expansion screwing with the zero (and also to make room for upwards-facing gas vents in the upper receiver - better recoil compensation and helps stabilize a recoil-induced drift). The stock's pretty hefty; lots of recoil dampening kit in there. Vertical foregrip as opposed to the Gladius's angled, for better bracing.

I'm calling this the Bora-Acorn M105 Sabre - I figure it'd go with the Gladius as a two-piece "all your shipboard defense needs covered" set for starship crews.
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Postby Aethal » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:51 pm

New Visegrad wrote:Here is PMG version
([url=snip]Image[/url])

As mentioned earlier, I was following on from the Bora-Acorn Gladius low-velocity rifle in terms of design. It has a long barrel to ensure accuracy, and the optic is stood off from the main chassis to avoid heat expansion screwing with the zero (and also to make room for upwards-facing gas vents in the upper receiver - better recoil compensation and helps stabilize a recoil-induced drift). The stock's pretty hefty; lots of recoil dampening kit in there. Vertical foregrip as opposed to the Gladius's angled, for better bracing.

I'm calling this the Bora-Acorn M105 Sabre - I figure it'd go with the Gladius as a two-piece "all your shipboard defense needs covered" set for starship crews.



why all the pmg stuff? It just doesn't carry the "caliber" of your lineart.
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Postby New Visegrad » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:56 pm

Aethal wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:Here is PMG version
([url=snip]Image[/url])

As mentioned earlier, I was following on from the Bora-Acorn Gladius low-velocity rifle in terms of design. It has a long barrel to ensure accuracy, and the optic is stood off from the main chassis to avoid heat expansion screwing with the zero (and also to make room for upwards-facing gas vents in the upper receiver - better recoil compensation and helps stabilize a recoil-induced drift). The stock's pretty hefty; lots of recoil dampening kit in there. Vertical foregrip as opposed to the Gladius's angled, for better bracing.

I'm calling this the Bora-Acorn M105 Sabre - I figure it'd go with the Gladius as a two-piece "all your shipboard defense needs covered" set for starship crews.



why all the pmg stuff? It just doesn't carry the "caliber" of your lineart.

Lineart is haaaard :P
People were posting PMG earlier and it inspired me to go play around with it a bit. I might do lineart versions later, but I do still have ArdaviaNightwatch and your gauss autocannon to get around to...and I kinda like the idea of Bora-Acorn producing more classically-designed weapons with rails and stuff, which I'm historically not very good at drawing.
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Postby Aethal » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:59 pm

New Visegrad wrote:
Lineart is haaaard :P
People were posting PMG earlier and it inspired me to go play around with it a bit. I might do lineart versions later, but I do still have ArdaviaNightwatch and your gauss autocannon to get around to...and I kinda like the idea of Bora-Acorn producing more classically-designed weapons with rails and stuff, which I'm historically not very good at drawing.



Lineart is hard? Matey, when I get my new PC built, I'm going to be beginning the Ulfran Arsenal Retconning Project (UARP for short) in earnest. Beginnign with bronze-age/early-late iron age materials. Talk about a "long project roster", right?
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Postby New Visegrad » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:05 pm

Aethal wrote:
New Visegrad wrote:
Lineart is haaaard :P
People were posting PMG earlier and it inspired me to go play around with it a bit. I might do lineart versions later, but I do still have ArdaviaNightwatch and your gauss autocannon to get around to...and I kinda like the idea of Bora-Acorn producing more classically-designed weapons with rails and stuff, which I'm historically not very good at drawing.



Lineart is hard? Matey, when I get my new PC built, I'm going to be beginning the Ulfran Arsenal Retconning Project (UARP for short) in earnest. Beginnign with bronze-age/early-late iron age materials. Talk about a "long project roster", right?

And you'll probably get it finished before I'm done with my two things :lol:
I guess I just don't have the motivation I used to. Often I open up PSP, look at the image, and just go "colouring this is going to take so fucking long. Think of all the shitposting I could do in that time." Then I shitpost all through lunch instead of finishing the picture.

Although. This conversation might have started something. I think I'll try to do ArdaviaNightwatch tomorrow. Thanks for the inspiration :)
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It is the year 4411. After a devastating galactic war between the authoritarian Galactic Defense League and an alliance of breakaway factions seeking to overturn the fascist government, a new socialist state - the Core Governance - seeks to rebuild a unified, peaceful galaxy where everyone can live in safety.
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Postby Absurrania » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:06 pm

Ok, so I'm going to try and put out some less common infantry weapons. This one is based on the M4 CQBR, the SA4, but without the top handle sights. It's supposed to be used by tank crews members(middle version), soldiers expected to engage in urban warfare(top &bottom version), and is an option to spec ops soldiers(they use less). Fires the 5.56x45mm NATO round. So, any improvement?

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Postby Bezombia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:08 pm

Absurrania wrote:Ok, so I'm going to try and put out some less common infantry weapons. This one is based on the M4 CQBR, the SA4, but without the top handle sights. It's supposed to be used by tank crews members(middle version), soldiers expected to engage in urban warfare(top &bottom version), and is an option to spec ops soldiers(they use less). Fires the 5.56x45mm NATO round. So, any improvement?

(Image)


The first one has its sights attached very incorrectly.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:11 pm

Absurrania wrote:Ok, so I'm going to try and put out some less common infantry weapons. This one is based on the M4 CQBR, the SA4, but without the top handle sights. It's supposed to be used by tank crews members(middle version), soldiers expected to engage in urban warfare(top &bottom version), and is an option to spec ops soldiers(they use less). Fires the 5.56x45mm NATO round. So, any improvement?

(Image)

Assuming you're sticking with the AR-15 style DGI system, the middle one wont work.

Why switch from the Kalashnikov?

And there is only one acceptable carbine for AFV use.
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That, or an ArchCarbine :p
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For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

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Postby Absurrania » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:30 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Absurrania wrote:Ok, so I'm going to try and put out some less common infantry weapons. This one is based on the M4 CQBR, the SA4, but without the top handle sights. It's supposed to be used by tank crews members(middle version), soldiers expected to engage in urban warfare(top &bottom version), and is an option to spec ops soldiers(they use less). Fires the 5.56x45mm NATO round. So, any improvement?

(Image)

Assuming you're sticking with the AR-15 style DGI system, the middle one wont work.

Why switch from the Kalashnikov?


These are all experimental designs. I've overused the Kalashnikov design. And why won't the middle one work? It's designed to be compact like that for tank, boat, transport plane(yes, transport plane), and APC crewmen. Soldiers that aren't going to be in the direct line of fire, but will need a small and easy to store yet powerful punch should they be placed in the lined of fire. A man operating a tank doesn't need an M16 when an enemy soldiers comes down the top hatch.

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Postby Bezombia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:31 pm

Absurrania wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Assuming you're sticking with the AR-15 style DGI system, the middle one wont work.

Why switch from the Kalashnikov?


These are all experimental designs. I've overused the Kalashnikov design. And why won't the middle one work? It's designed to be compact like that for tank, boat, transport plane(yes, transport plane), and APC crewmen. Soldiers that aren't going to be in the direct line of fire, but will need a small and easy to store yet powerful punch should they be placed in the lined of fire. A man operating a tank doesn't need an M16 when an enemy soldiers comes down the top hatch.


The AR-15's action goes into the stock.

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Without the stock, the gun will not fire.
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Postby Gvozdevsk » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:32 pm

Absurrania wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Assuming you're sticking with the AR-15 style DGI system, the middle one wont work.

Why switch from the Kalashnikov?


These are all experimental designs. I've overused the Kalashnikov design. And why won't the middle one work? It's designed to be compact like that for tank, boat, transport plane(yes, transport plane), and APC crewmen. Soldiers that aren't going to be in the direct line of fire, but will need a small and easy to store yet powerful punch should they be placed in the lined of fire. A man operating a tank doesn't need an M16 when an enemy soldiers comes down the top hatch.

It doesn't work because standard direct impingement AR-15s need a buffer tube to work.

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:39 pm

Absurrania wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Assuming you're sticking with the AR-15 style DGI system, the middle one wont work.

Why switch from the Kalashnikov?


These are all experimental designs. I've overused the Kalashnikov design. And why won't the middle one work? It's designed to be compact like that for tank, boat, transport plane(yes, transport plane), and APC crewmen. Soldiers that aren't going to be in the direct line of fire, but will need a small and easy to store yet powerful punch should they be placed in the lined of fire. A man operating a tank doesn't need an M16 when an enemy soldiers comes down the top hatch.

Get rid of the front sight you have (which is a gas port for the tube) and throw a gas block, short piston, and buttcap (ala XM8 carbine) and you've got a tanker carbine.
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Postby New Tsavon » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:41 pm

New Visegrad wrote:Once more
Smoothbore BR for EVA work, y/n?

> 2200 or thereabouts (I honestly have no idea what year it is in your nation)
> Not using 4mm hypervelocity flechettes for EVA troops
> Not firing said flechettes out of a superior autorail rifle

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:45 pm

I cannot into spaec combat.
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Postby Absurrania » Thu Dec 12, 2013 7:55 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Absurrania wrote:
These are all experimental designs. I've overused the Kalashnikov design. And why won't the middle one work? It's designed to be compact like that for tank, boat, transport plane(yes, transport plane), and APC crewmen. Soldiers that aren't going to be in the direct line of fire, but will need a small and easy to store yet powerful punch should they be placed in the lined of fire. A man operating a tank doesn't need an M16 when an enemy soldiers comes down the top hatch.


The AR-15's action goes into the stock.

Image
Without the stock, the gun will not fire.


If there was a surrender emoticon, I would put it here....

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Postby Sevvania » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:10 pm

Absurrania wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
The AR-15's action goes into the stock.

Image
Without the stock, the gun will not fire.


If there was a surrender emoticon, I would put it here....

But, it's a pretty easy fix. You can just do something like this:
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Postby Absurrania » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:19 pm

For some reason, PMG won't work for me...It either won't load, or it loads but won't save to .JPEG. Going to toy around with some LMG designs in the old version since right now, the newer version isn't working. XM8 drum mag looks appealing.

I do MT, PMT, PT, but not FT, PMT, or FanT. Too many blurred lines and people with overactive imaginations.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:25 pm

Sevvania wrote:But, it's a pretty easy fix. You can just do something like this:
(Image)

Yes, I suppose you could do that.

Or, you could use a man's carbine
Image

In other news,
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Or not.

I think I'll replace the SIG gas block with one designed for DGI later.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:29 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Sevvania wrote:But, it's a pretty easy fix. You can just do something like this:
(Image)

Yes, I suppose you could do that.

Or, you could use a man's carbine
Image


This from the guy who routinely uses micro rounds...

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Postby Bezombia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:30 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:Yes, I suppose you could do that.

Or, you could use a man's carbine
(Image)


This from the guy who routinely uses micro rounds...

b/c I'm pretty sure you're hte only mod on right now

Picture of a gun to make this post look on topic:
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:36 pm

Transnapastain wrote:This from the guy who routinely uses micro rounds...

That's how you know it's legit.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Transnapastain » Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:45 pm

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:This from the guy who routinely uses micro rounds...

That's how you know it's legit.


....or something. :P

Bezombia wrote:
Transnapastain wrote:
This from the guy who routinely uses micro rounds...

b/c I'm pretty sure you're hte only mod on right now

Picture of a gun to make this post look on topic:
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Deleted, thank you.

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Also guns because topic.

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Postby Absurrania » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:12 pm

All right, I'm going to experiment with multiple platforms. For my LMG, should I go with the MK46, the M249, or the XM8 light machine gun version? My AK LMG has too small a magazine. The only reason I chose it was for it's lightweight, but I've pretty much abandoned that.

I do MT, PMT, PT, but not FT, PMT, or FanT. Too many blurred lines and people with overactive imaginations.
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