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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:30 am

Ea90 wrote:What would you guys say is the ideal melee weapon for modern CQC (purely for combat, not as a multi-purpose tool)?


Probably a rile with bayonet. That or a PDW/SMG type weapon.

Rifle and bayonet is obvious, it gives you the ability for ranged firing and stabbing. Since the bayonet is on the end of the rifle it will give you reach over someone with a sword/knife.

PDW/SMG type weapon would just work out well as a lots of bullets easy reload.
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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:33 am

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Ea90 wrote:What would you guys say is the ideal melee weapon for modern CQC (purely for combat, not as a multi-purpose tool)?

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Postby Puzikas » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:35 am

Ea90 wrote:What would you guys say is the ideal melee weapon for modern CQC (purely for combat, not as a multi-purpose tool)?


Mace because I like the noise peoples heads make when they get hit with something hard and heavy with a great deal of force.

Also their generally good at breaking things in general. And small. And maneuverable. Enough that they were used right up to WWI/GPW IIRC.


This is, of course, assuming you mean a non-gun or gun based object. If these are included: Rifle with bayonet, and shame on you for posing such a question, I thought you knew better! :P
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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:55 am

Crookfur wrote:
Tronold wrote:(Image)

This is the last time I'm going to show this and ask for opinions.

From 1 to 10, what punctuation do you give to this uniform?


How WW1 are you wanting go?

Body armour was certainly around in ww1, and not just in the form of funny looking sheets of steel. Concealable vest were common as were full on "bullet proof" feild jackets

Probably a good indication of what you might want to base your "armour" on would be the chemico body shield, it looks fairly modern bar the fact it uses buttons and only has two small pockets rather a mess of pouchs/molle loops:

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and if going with ww1 looks then any armour should be topped with a set of 1908 pattern webbing:

[img]http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/198/media-198011/large.jpg?action=d&cat=equipment[/img
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I think the body armor as it look right now looks fine, but I'm going to add the pattern webbings.
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Postby Ea90 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:56 am

Puzikas wrote:Mace because I like the noise peoples heads make when they get hit with something hard and heavy with a great deal of force.

Also their generally good at breaking things in general. And small. And maneuverable. Enough that they were used right up to WWI/GPW IIRC.


This is, of course, assuming you mean a non-gun or gun based object. If these are included: Rifle with bayonet, and shame on you for posing such a question, I thought you knew better! :P

Yes I do mean non-gun weapon.
So would it be plausible to issue maces in modern times?

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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:57 am

Ea90 wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Mace because I like the noise peoples heads make when they get hit with something hard and heavy with a great deal of force.

Also their generally good at breaking things in general. And small. And maneuverable. Enough that they were used right up to WWI/GPW IIRC.


This is, of course, assuming you mean a non-gun or gun based object. If these are included: Rifle with bayonet, and shame on you for posing such a question, I thought you knew better! :P

Yes I do mean non-gun weapon.
So would it be plausible to issue maces in modern times?



Just issue a knife/bayonet.

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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:57 am

Puzikas wrote:
Ea90 wrote:What would you guys say is the ideal melee weapon for modern CQC (purely for combat, not as a multi-purpose tool)?


Mace because I like the noise peoples heads make when they get hit with something hard and heavy with a great deal of force.

Also their generally good at breaking things in general. And small. And maneuverable. Enough that they were used right up to WWI/GPW IIRC.


This is, of course, assuming you mean a non-gun or gun based object. If these are included: Rifle with bayonet, and shame on you for posing such a question, I thought you knew better! :P


I strongly disagree as waving a maze at somebody's head is pretty slow.

I recommend an Axe.

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Postby Ea90 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:01 am

Spreewerke wrote:Just issue a knife/bayonet.

I'm going for lulz (I do realise that a knife would be more practical).

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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:03 am

Ea90 wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Just issue a knife/bayonet.

I'm going for lulz (I do realise that a knife would be more practical).


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Can I axe you a question?

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:05 am

Ea90 wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Just issue a knife/bayonet.

I'm going for lulz (I do realise that a knife would be more practical).

Well then go for the mace, though it is heavier than a sword. You'll get indie credit for it.
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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:05 am

Ea90 wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Just issue a knife/bayonet.

I'm going for lulz (I do realise that a knife would be more practical).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

Go All Quiet on the Western Front on their ass.

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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:09 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Ea90 wrote:I'm going for lulz (I do realise that a knife would be more practical).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

Go All Quiet on the Western Front on their ass.


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Postby Crookfur » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:11 am

Ea90 wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Mace because I like the noise peoples heads make when they get hit with something hard and heavy with a great deal of force.

Also their generally good at breaking things in general. And small. And maneuverable. Enough that they were used right up to WWI/GPW IIRC.


This is, of course, assuming you mean a non-gun or gun based object. If these are included: Rifle with bayonet, and shame on you for posing such a question, I thought you knew better! :P

Yes I do mean non-gun weapon.
So would it be plausible to issue maces in modern times?


common tactical mace type thingy these days is the big old maglite torch, you cna also get molle compatible mace pouchs (for actual hitting people devices not just a pounch for the spray variety).

For max Operator you need a tactical tomahawk.

Engineers/sappers do of coruse get the best implements for hitting poeple in the forms hammers, picks and axes.
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Postby Puzikas » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:13 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Ea90 wrote:I'm going for lulz (I do realise that a knife would be more practical).



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o

Go All Quiet on the Western Front on their ass.


But eight countries actually already do this.

Tronold wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
Mace because I like the noise peoples heads make when they get hit with something hard and heavy with a great deal of force.

Also their generally good at breaking things in general. And small. And maneuverable. Enough that they were used right up to WWI/GPW IIRC.


This is, of course, assuming you mean a non-gun or gun based object. If these are included: Rifle with bayonet, and shame on you for posing such a question, I thought you knew better! :P


I strongly disagree as waving a maze at somebody's head is pretty slow.

I recommend an Axe.


A mace is no slower than an ax. Your thinking hatchet or tomahawk, similarly mine would be considered more of a bulgon or truchon. Neither of those are spelled correctly because I dont even think those are the English equivalent..but yea.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:15 am

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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Puzikas » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:18 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:(Image)
Thoughts?


I find fish tastes better with a hint of lime rather than lemon.


also your gun reminds me of both fish and mud at the same time. Which is not bad.

Also it looks like you have a fixed magazine. Is this the case?
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Postby Ea90 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:19 am

Crookfur wrote:common tactical mace type thingy these days is the big old maglite torch

Interesting, although I'm trying to go for something that is basically just for CQB and serves no other purpose.

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Postby Puzikas » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:23 am

Ea90 wrote:
Crookfur wrote:common tactical mace type thingy these days is the big old maglite torch

Interesting, although I'm trying to go for something that is basically just for CQB and serves no other purpose.



Go full America and use A trench spike.
That's about as conbat-only you can get.
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:25 am

Puzikas wrote:I find fish tastes better with a hint of lime rather than lemon.


also your gun reminds me of both fish and mud at the same time. Which is not bad.

Hmm. I shall have to try that when next we have fish :p

Also it looks like you have a fixed magazine. Is this the case?

It is.
This generation of ArchRifle feeds from an internal 30 round magazine, which is charged by 30 round en-bloc clips.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:26 am

Ea90 wrote:
Crookfur wrote:common tactical mace type thingy these days is the big old maglite torch

Interesting, although I'm trying to go for something that is basically just for CQB and serves no other purpose.


But i think [url]this[/url] is axelent:

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Postby Ea90 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:27 am

Tronold wrote:But i think [url]this[/url] is axelent:

hmm?

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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:29 am

Ea90 wrote:
Tronold wrote:But i think [url]this[/url] is axelent:

hmm?


Please axescuse me, here it is:

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/roppda/Strider-Axe-One-DSC_7888_112211_188.jpg

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Postby Puzikas » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:31 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Puzikas wrote:I find fish tastes better with a hint of lime rather than lemon.


also your gun reminds me of both fish and mud at the same time. Which is not bad.

Hmm. I shall have to try that when next we have fish :p

Also it looks like you have a fixed magazine. Is this the case?

It is.
This generation of ArchRifle feeds from an internal 30 round magazine, which is charged by 30 round en-bloc clips.



I have to say that's a pretty silly idea. For starters given how short your rifle is it would be rather difficult to grip as it is, but then loading it in such a manner? It would be EXTREMELY annoying to do so, in addition to difficult and, in general, a hazard. Especially in combat.

Loading a magazine with clips is not as easy as it seems, and a 30 round enbloc would be among the more difficult processes.

Its also worth noting that you'll be catching that clip in your face after firing all 30 rounds.
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Postby Tronold » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:37 am

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I'm finished!

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Postby Spreewerke » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:38 am

Puzikas wrote:A mace is no slower than an ax. Your thinking hatchet or tomahawk, similarly mine would be considered more of a bulgon or truchon. Neither of those are spelled correctly because I dont even think those are the English equivalent..but yea.



Bludgeon, truncheon.



Puzikas wrote:
Ea90 wrote:Interesting, although I'm trying to go for something that is basically just for CQB and serves no other purpose.



Go full America and use A trench spike.
That's about as conbat-only you can get.



Image

You don't get much more full-America than a chopped-down baseball bat of death.

Wrap it in barbed wire for extra bonus points.
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