Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Part 12

[Kouralia]

It needs somewhere to attach a sling so that it can be fired from the hip.

Will come on the tacti-lol version. That one is the 'hunting' one.

[Purpelia]

It needs somewhere to attach a sling so that it can be fired from the hip.

Will come on the tacti-lol version. That one is the 'hunting' one.

Also a bayonet lug for each of the barrels.

[Yes Im Biop]

Some of them are using Pimp My Gun: http://pimpmygun.doctornoob.com/

Others are using Microsoft Paint or similar (should already be on your computer).

Others still are being #hipster and using Flash.

And those who can't art just write about it, like moi.

Same here

[Czechovelkov]

For my CCTA i'll use a resinated molded fibre composite with an integral energetic component, which seems to offer the best combustability. Perhaps I shall mix it with some nitro glycerin fibres to increase combustability. Y/N?

Don't know what to do with the internal support structure, I'll have polymer non-combustable endcaps.

What should I do with propellant?

[New Visegrad]

It needs somewhere to attach a sling so that it can be fired from the hip.

I was going to make a Sharpe reference here but I couldn't find the clip I needed. :sadface: Suffice it to say that if a fat Irishman can hipfire a Nock gun without a sling, why can't you?

[Czechovelkov]

Czechovelkovan gun people

[Kouralia]

R13 and Thunderbolt in .338 LM

The R13 (Crown Ordinance Thunderbolt) is a (nearly) unique fire-arm, based heavily on the design of the Nock Gun. The weapon first appeared in design format in 2005, and the first prototype was produced in 2008. The 'Thunderbolt' Commercial hunting rifle entered the markets in a range of calibres later that year, accompanied by a range of health warnings. However, in early 2013 interest in the rifle grew in the Kouralian Army, fueled by the situations faced by forces deployed in D'hɑlbrisir. The project was put on the back-burner and was expected to be ready by November 2013, but after the 31st Annual Demon War it was brought to the forefront and by July of that year it was ready for service.

In-Conclusive List of rounds the weapon is available in:

• 9x19mm
• .45ACP
• .40
• .44 Magnum
• .357 Magnum
• 6.5x25mm
• 7.62x25mm
• .303 KourP
• .50 AE
• 10mm Auto
• .22 LR
• 5.56x45mm
• 5.45x39mm
• .280 Kour
• .280 British
• 7.62x39mm
• 7.62x51mm
• 7.62x54mm
• .303 British
• .303 Kour(n/r)
• .303 Kour(r)
• .338 LM
• 9.3×64mm
• .50 BMG
• 12 gauge
• 40mm LV

The Thunderbolt uses a double-action hammer, which strikes the seven individually mobile pins to fire the rounds. Each of the six outer barrels has a catch by it. When the catch is flicked down then that barrel will not fire, when it is flicked up then it will. This enables the weapon to, in effect, be turned into a (rather unwieldy) bolt-action rifle with seven rounds. The only barrel which cannot be 'disabled' is the centre one. The weapon is break-action and upon being opened, the seven rounds will automatically be ejected. To reload it, the operator may either insert the rounds individually, or they may use a seven-round moon clip to speed up the process. The highest number of rounds gotten down-range with the .280 Kour version of the R13 in testing was seventy seven - one volley every 5.45 seconds. The R13 also uses recoil reducing springs in the stock to diminish the felt recoil, and reduce the risk of injury. As standard, the R13 form comes with a rail-mounted bayonet attachment point.

Designation: What is this I don't even
Standard Calibre: .303 Kour(n/r)
Rate of Fire: Single Shot
Action: Double-Action Hammer, Multiple-Barrel
Standard Feed Method: 7 round Moon Clip
Effective Range: 503m
Maximum Range: 2,743m
Weight (unloaded): 8,150g
Length: 911mm (Tactical Model, Normal barrel length, Bayonet not fixed)
Barrel Length: 432mm (Tactical Model, Normal barrel length)

[Bhelyant]

Does anyone know of a good resource (or can make a summary) that talks about the different types of locking mechanisms and what the pros/cons of each type are? I found a resource that compares rotating bolts to tilting locks, but there are obviously more types than that, and it was on a white supremacists website, so...

repost in case anyone was able to locate something

[Risen Britannia]

Lack of a Combat knife/Fixed blade. you can't use a multitool as an axe.
I'd suggest looking at a whole assortment of knives, I personally like the coldsteel SRK, the SOG Seal pup, the Gerber prodigy series and LMF II.

EDIT: forgot to say, Bloody nice work mate. damn fine.

I did start drawing this:

...but it went wrong so i stopped.

curved mags are a clear indication of devil-worship

HERE HERE!

And I just nag RB to do the line art afterwards.

.......

Tanks are evil brain hurting, mind bending pains in the arse.

Tanks aren't hard, all you have to do is spend 4-5 hours drawing the tracks, then find that they still suck and then give up and watch videos of cats on youtube.

Depends what are the stats?

Sorry this took so long to prepare.

Dimensions
Variants (Ball, AP, SLAP)
Ballistics

Whilst i appreciate all the time and effort you have put into that round, unfortunately it is too wide for me, sorry.

SNIP

ALL THE CALIBERS!

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Whilst i appreciate all the time and effort you have put into that round, unfortunately it is too wide for me, sorry.

Eh.
*shrugs shoulders*

I appreciate you taking the time to consider it. Admittedly, it doesn't exactly ooze compactness like most of my other cartridges.

[Risen Britannia]

Added a bit more based on peoples suggestions, Current grab bag:

PDW with 5 mags (23 5.7x28mm rounds in each)
Multi-tool
Map of operational area with compass
Small first aid kit
Water purification tablets
High energy ration kit
Personal radio
Pen/pencil/paper
2x2m Foil blanket (reflective foil on one inside, camo on the other)
3x2m Poncho (camo)
Torch
Fire stater
Cable ties
Knife (14cm blade)
wallet with local currency (aka the world language)
Purifying collapsible water pouch with inbuilt filter

[Kouralia]

SNIP

ALL THE CALIBERS!

Obvs.

Best one will be having pintle mounted 40mm HV ones, so like a GMG but firing seven shots simultaneously.

[Puzikas]

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Added a bit more based on peoples suggestions, Current grab bag:

PDW with 5 mags (23 5.7x28mm rounds in each)
Multi-tool
Map of operational area with compass
Small first aid kit
Water purification tablets
High energy ration kit
Personal radio
Pen/pencil/paper
2x2m Foil blanket (reflective foil on one inside, camo on the other)
3x2m Poncho (camo)
Torch
Fire stater
Cable ties
Knife (14cm blade)
wallet with local currency (aka the world language)
Purifying collapsible water pouch with inbuilt filter

I Suggest rope (50m of 550 cord) , duct tape and flairs.
Id also say to use a solar-powered GPS as a pilot (I assume this is a pilot) doesn't necessarily know where hes going to be going down, and the map would either be enormous or lack detail, especially if its a longer mission. But at the same time, a lot can go wrong with a GPS. A lot could go wrong with a map too, so if you opt to not go the GPS way, laminate the fuck out of that map.
Also, salt. Don't ask why, but a few small packets of salt like you get at pubs.
I actually like the idea of 5.7 for this kit, its a pretty good varmint killer round as I understand.

[Imperializt Russia]

What is salt supposed to do?
WWII movies tell me it's something to do with wounds.

[Purpelia]

What is salt supposed to do?
WWII movies tell me it's something to do with wounds.

Hurts mostly. But seriously, if there is one thing I would not want to be caught without it's salt. Imagine cooking without it. There is a reason the stuff used to be worth its weight in gold.

[Puzikas]

What is salt supposed to do?
WWII movies tell me it's something to do with wounds.

Hurts mostly. But seriously, if there is one thing I would not want to be caught without it's salt. Imagine cooking without it. There is a reason the stuff used to be worth its weight in gold.

This basically. It can make anything rather unpleasant to eat slightly less unpleasant to eat. It can be pored on wounds to prevent bacterial infection (yes, it sucks), it can be used to preserve meats as well. Granted you want to pluck your pilot out of there ASAP but don't discount the value of slat.

[Risen Britannia]

I Suggest rope (50m of 550 cord) , duct tape and flairs.
Id also say to use a solar-powered GPS as a pilot (I assume this is a pilot) doesn't necessarily know where hes going to be going down, and the map would either be enormous or lack detail, especially if its a longer mission. But at the same time, a lot can go wrong with a GPS. A lot could go wrong with a map too, so if you opt to not go the GPS way, laminate the fuck out of that map.
Also, salt. Don't ask why, but a few small packets of salt like you get at pubs.
I actually like the idea of 5.7 for this kit, its a pretty good varmint killer round as I understand.

salt can be part of the 'ration kit'
(ration kit is in quotation marks as its more a collection of solid chunks of carbohydrates and protein along with some vitamin tablets)

rope and duct tape is a good idea, however i will leave the flares out. I will add the flares for the pilots one .

I may include a GPS unit in larger grab bags (I may do multiple sizes from bare essentials to basically an infantryman's kit bag)

EDIT: how about a IR beacon for pilots?

[Puzikas]

salt can be part of the 'ration kit'

(ration kit is in quotation marks as its more a collection of solid chunks of carbohydrates and protein along with some vitamin tablets)

very well. In my RL kit I have a ziplock bag full of Iodized salt (each of about .75 grams).
remember Iodine is actually kind of important.

[Imperializt Russia]

Would a bottle of multivitamins be useful to include in a kit?
Even a small bottle can provide two months worth of pills, just to boost whatever meagre supplies a person in need of SHTF bag will be able to acquire before rescue.

[Risen Britannia]

salt can be part of the 'ration kit'

(ration kit is in quotation marks as its more a collection of solid chunks of carbohydrates and protein along with some vitamin tablets)

very well. In my RL kit I have a ziplock bag full of Iodized salt (each of about .75 grams).
remember Iodine is actually kind of important.

I can only give so much (remember this may have to pushed out of a tanks cupola whilst the tank is on fire), so the ration kit is more of a stop gap measure just to sustain you for that little bit longer.

larger bags given to the commander (easier exit) may contain extra (proper) ration kits to be shared out)

[Puzikas]

very well. In my RL kit I have a ziplock bag full of Iodized salt (each of about .75 grams).
remember Iodine is actually kind of important.

I can only give so much (remember this may have to pushed out of a tanks cupola whilst the tank is on fire), so the ration kit is more of a stop gap measure just to sustain you for that little bit longer.

larger bags given to the commander (easier exit) may contain extra (proper) ration kits to be shared out)

Naturally. I was just stressing that its a good thing to have. As well as the rope and duct tape/electrical tape.

@IR beacons: IIRC generally the aircraft seat has one that's activated upon deployment of the parachute that can be removed by the pilot.

[Risen Britannia]

I can only give so much (remember this may have to pushed out of a tanks cupola whilst the tank is on fire), so the ration kit is more of a stop gap measure just to sustain you for that little bit longer.

larger bags given to the commander (easier exit) may contain extra (proper) ration kits to be shared out)

Naturally. I was just stressing that its a good thing to have. As well as the rope and duct tape/electrical tape.

@IR beacons: IIRC generally the aircraft seat has one that's activated upon deployment of the parachute that can be removed by the pilot.

I am planning on doing a diagram that shows the bag sizes and what you get, so:

basic: PDW, map compass, water sac/tablets, torch, emergency rations, radio, zip ties, knife.
expanded lvl 1; more mags, first aid kit, poncho/blanket, pen/paper, tape, more water tablets, multi-tool.
expanded lvl 2; ration kits, GPS, rope, local currency, water sac, flares, etc...

the higher the number the longer you can live off it

[Omarios]

The XF-13

Other Variants/Prototypes
XF-10
XF-11
XF-11-C (Civilian)
XF-12
XF-13
XF-13-V2
XF-13-S
XF-14 (Prototype)

The XF-13 is the current main weapon of the Omarian Military, designed in 1999 by Hamstrock, its predeccesors the XF-10,11,12 were all used by the Omarian Military since 1961, it was assigned for service in 2001 replacing the old XF-12s, it was first used by the land forces, followed by the navy, then the airforce, in which pilots received the XF-13-S.

[Black Hand]

The XF-13

(Image)

Other Variants/Prototypes
XF-10
XF-11
XF-11-C (Civilian)
XF-12
XF-13
XF-13-V2
XF-13-S
XF-14 (Prototype)

The XF-13 is the current main weapon of the Omarian Military, designed in 1999 by Hamstrock, its predeccesors the XF-10,11,12 were all used by the Omarian Military since 1961, it chambers 7.62x54mm bullets, it was assigned for service in 2001 replacing the old XF-12s, it was first used by the land forces, followed by the navy, then the airforce, in which pilots received the XF-13-S.

That's not a 7.62X54R magazine, there is an appropriate magazine available through PMG. Also I'm assuming AK based, you might have a difficult time removing the receiver cover.

[Omarios]

The XF-13

(Image)

Other Variants/Prototypes
XF-10
XF-11
XF-11-C (Civilian)
XF-12
XF-13
XF-13-V2
XF-13-S
XF-14 (Prototype)

The XF-13 is the current main weapon of the Omarian Military, designed in 1999 by Hamstrock, its predeccesors the XF-10,11,12 were all used by the Omarian Military since 1961, it chambers 7.62x54mm bullets, it was assigned for service in 2001 replacing the old XF-12s, it was first used by the land forces, followed by the navy, then the airforce, in which pilots received the XF-13-S.

That's not a 7.62X54R magazine, there is an appropriate magazine available through PMG. Also I'm assuming AK based, you might have a difficult time removing the receiver cover.

*Sigh* ok, I'll correct that.