Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Part 12

[Imperializt Russia]

Integrally suppressed AN-94.

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Probably wouldn't be able to function.

[Khornatenreich]

My progress with the round insofar:




How should I go about improving it's armor penetration exactly?

And, well, how should I classify it exactly? Since it's definitely a "Ball", "FMJ" or otherwise, it's an abomination, bridging the gap between JSP's and other wild-game mincing cartridges with a body-armor popper. So then, how the devil do we classify this abomination?

[Aqizithiuda]

My progress with the round insofar:


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How should I go about improving it's armor penetration exactly?

Short of adding a penetrator, which might mess up the expansion, not much. It should go through soft body armour, at least.

[Khornatenreich]

My progress with the round insofar:


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How should I go about improving it's armor penetration exactly?

Short of adding a penetrator, which might mess up the expansion, not much. It should go through soft body armour, at least.

Well, as I figured it, maybe I could add a "core" or "pseudo-penetrator" in the base, not counting the fact that it will have a wulframite jacket. A way to even/sort-the-balance. I chose for this replacement (setting the par for Khornatenreich infantry munitions from 1951 onward) to be as vicious as bloody-possible, yet effective.

The idea being that, against heavier armor, it'll "squash-out", slamming the penetraor inward, kinda like the effect the 13.2TuF had on Tadpole tanks, just on meat walkin' around carrying a rifle. Now, hitting the face, leg, arm or other bits we encounter the crueler side of things. The "bladed petal" effect of it's KALAHARI cartridge forefather comes into play, snapping limbs off at the joint, or tearing holes into the target due to the muzzle-velocity.

[Densylia]

For rifle, I'd say the Steyr AUG
For pistol, I'd say the FN Five-Seven

I'm not a big gun nu...I mean, enthusiast

[Khornatenreich]

And WIPdate again:

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

So... remember those 4.6mm v.2s from yesterday? Yeah, I botched them. Turns out, they offer less energy at 50m than the v.1s, no improvement in trajectory whatsoever, and the smelled somewhat of fisch.

As such, they no longer exist.
v.1 Master race!

[Black Hand]

Would the payoff in weight make using Aluminum cases worth it? Or should I just jump straight to polymer cases? (keep in mind this is working within a FAL and a FN minimi)

[United states of brazilian nations]

So... remember those 4.6mm v.2s from yesterday? Yeah, I botched them. Turns out, they offer less energy at 50m than the v.1s, no improvement in trajectory whatsoever, and the smelled somewhat of fisch.

As such, they no longer exist.
v.1 Master race!
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that API round a downscaled Raufoss Mk 211?
if so, well i guess you have the world's smallest combined effects round, right there.

on my own rifle, sadly i won't be able to work on it for a while because #examsweek
and you know, gotta focus 200%.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

that API round a downscaled Raufoss Mk 211?

It is indeed.

i guess you have the world's smallest combined effects round, right there.

Yup. I keep it around mostly for kicks.

[Bezombia]

Integrally suppressed AN-94.

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Probably wouldn't be able to function.

Wait would that work with the stock folded?

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

Dude, CTA chambered sidearm firing duplex munitions. It sounds batshit as all fuck, but would kickass for a space-future PDW, sidearm, bullet-hose or sommat.

Salvo squeezebore, caseless, gas delayed, bullpup, integrally suppressed rifle in 2010.

I never did get around to drawing that dual-barrel quadruplex triple-bore tround SMG I talked about...

[United states of brazilian nations]

that API round a downscaled Raufoss Mk 211?

It is indeed.

i guess you have the world's smallest combined effects round, right there.

Yup. I keep it around mostly for kicks.

i assume it will have an explosion only comparable to those small firecrackers they use in parties.

[Ea90]

Probably wouldn't be able to function.

Wait would that work with the stock folded?

If I'm looking at this correctly (which it is very possible that I am not), then I guess it wouldn't be able to fire with stock folded.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

i assume it will have an explosion only comparable to those small firecrackers they use in parties.

Something like that.

Still though, not many can say that they field the worlds smallest combined effects munition.

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[quote=Beno"]

Wait would that work with the stock folded?

If I'm looking at this correctly (which it is very possible that I am not), then I guess it wouldn't be able to fire with stock folded.[/quote]
Why wouldn't it? The stock doesn't appear to contain, or blok anything vital.

[Crookfur]

Oi, quick question, how do the prospects of a 15.5x115 or 16.5x120 sound as candidates for the HMG/notheavystubber?

THis might be a bit late and off the wall but you are aware that Khorne's sacred number is 8 (slaanesh is 6, nurgle 7 and tzeentch 9) so you migth want to think about .8cal (20.32mm) or soem multiple fo 8 as your calibre (i.e. 16mm).

yeah this probabaly would have been much more useful back when you started this project...

[Bhelyant]

Probably wouldn't be able to function.
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Wait would that work with the stock folded?

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I think so. Isn't the recoil spring on the AN-94 where the magazine usually is, and that's why the magazine has to be canted to the side? It looks like what you're seeing in the stock (I'm assuming that's where your concern lies) is a cleaning kit. That would make sense because cleaning kits often are kept in place with spring tension so it doesn't rattle.

[Immoren]

Probably wouldn't be able to function.

Wait would that work with the stock folded?

Why wouldn't it? But why would you use it stock folded?

[Ea90]

Are the disadvantages of duplex ammunition to great for it to be fielded as standard-issue (hypothetically)?

[Puzikas]

Probably wouldn't be able to function.

Wait would that work with the stock folded?

Its a cleaning capsule. contains parts for assembly/dis assembly and cleaning of the rifle that it stored in the butt of most Russian service rifles since the introduction of the SKS, a practice started with the PPSH-41 IIRC. Has no vital parts that removing the stock of the rifle wuld effect.

Not directed at just beno but everyone...Did you all not know that?

[Ea90]

Not directed at just beno but everyone...Did you all not know that?

I genuinely had no idea; I assumed it was some sort of recoil buffer or something.

[Imperializt Russia]

I saw the cleaning kit but was very confused by the spring-looking thing.

[Puzikas]

Not directed at just beno but everyone...Did you all not know that?

I genuinely had no idea; I assumed it was some sort of recoil buffer or something.

I have failed you, then.

I saw the cleaning kit but was very confused by the spring-looking thing.

Push tab on back, kit pops out.

[Ea90]

I saw the cleaning kit but was very confused by the spring-looking thing.

Yeah, that's what threw me.

I have failed you, then.

*passes seppuku tanto*

[Fordorsia]

Wait would that work with the stock folded?

Its a cleaning capsule. contains parts for assembly/dis assembly and cleaning of the rifle that it stored in the butt of most Russian service rifles since the introduction of the SKS, a practice started with the PPSH-41 IIRC. Has no vital parts that removing the stock of the rifle wuld effect.

Not directed at just beno but everyone...Did you all not know that?

I thought that green thing contained a Russian infantryman's vodka ration.