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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:59 am

Black Hand wrote:
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First thing you shouldn't do something specifically to get "approval" of a certain poster(s).

Secondly what exactly is wrong with 40mm Buck?

lower capacity/velocity is possible. 40X51 vs 30X100.


Again what's wrong with 40mil buck? It serves just fine in it's role, and there's really no reason to go smaller and longer.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:04 am

Bezombia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:lower capacity/velocity is possible. 40X51 vs 30X100.


Again what's wrong with 40mil buck? It serves just fine in it's role, and there's really no reason to go smaller and longer.


What would a 40mm buckshot grenade's purpose be? It doesn't have one.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:05 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Again what's wrong with 40mil buck? It serves just fine in it's role, and there's really no reason to go smaller and longer.


What would a 40mm buckshot grenade's purpose be? It doesn't have one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M576_40mm_grenade

If you're team is going in to a building and you're only weapon is your grenade launcher, blowing yourself up isn't an option.
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Postby Black Hand » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:06 am

Bezombia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:lower capacity/velocity is possible. 40X51 vs 30X100.


Again what's wrong with 40mil buck? It serves just fine in it's role, and there's really no reason to go smaller and longer.

you use your cartridges I''ll use mine.
I like the 30X100 better. And the case capacity is higher. 10838 mm cubed, vs 8922 mm cubed also this is just for the Grenade round, I also plan on having the shotgun accommodate up to 5,1/2" shells.
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Postby Purpelia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:14 am

Question time. Does anyone know any non painful way to make the calculators on this site give me data in metric?
http://www.border-barrels.com/ The best I can do now is painfully convert 50 meter increments into feet, plug them into the calculator custom range field, write the results down and convert them back to metric.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:15 am

Bezombia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
What would a 40mm buckshot grenade's purpose be? It doesn't have one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M576_40mm_grenade

If you're team is going in to a building and you're only weapon is your grenade launcher, blowing yourself up isn't an option.


Ever heard of grenades? I hear they're better at killing anything more efficiently.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:15 am

Purpelia wrote:Question time. Does anyone know any non painful way to make the calculators on this site give me data in metric?
http://www.border-barrels.com/ The best I can do now is painfully convert 50 meter increments into feet, plug them into the calculator custom range field, write the results down and convert them back to metric.


Three feet is a meter.

Well not really but it's close enough to just use that.
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Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
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Postby Ea90 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:18 am

Bezombia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Question time. Does anyone know any non painful way to make the calculators on this site give me data in metric?
http://www.border-barrels.com/ The best I can do now is painfully convert 50 meter increments into feet, plug them into the calculator custom range field, write the results down and convert them back to metric.


Three feet is a meter.

Well not really but it's close enough to just use that.

no
3 feet is a yard
meter =/= yard
it may seem like an inconsequential difference, but it actually makes quite a lot of difference sometimes

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:24 am

That's not the issue. Converting is the easy part.
The issue is that the entire table is generated using feet. See what I mean:
Table

Notice that it starts from 0 at 50 feet increments. Thus it is useless to me and I must use converted metric values (see far right corner, that's 700m) and thus can only get one row at a time. You see, I want the table in my writeup to be in clean good looking 50 meter increments. Not 50 feet increments converted to funky decimal numbers.
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Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:25 am

Purpelia wrote:That's not the issue. Converting is the easy part.
The issue is that the entire table is generated using feet. See what I mean:
Table

Notice that it starts from 0 at 50 feet increments. Thus it is useless to me and I must use converted metric values (see far right corner, that's 700m) and thus can only get one row at a time.


It's using yards not feet.
That might be messing up your calculations.
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Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Purpelia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:29 am

Bezombia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:That's not the issue. Converting is the easy part.
The issue is that the entire table is generated using feet. See what I mean:
Table

Notice that it starts from 0 at 50 feet increments. Thus it is useless to me and I must use converted metric values (see far right corner, that's 700m) and thus can only get one row at a time.


It's using yards not feet.
That might be messing up your calculations.

The feet thing was a typo on this page only. What's messing with me is that if I just converted the values the header would not look like instead of 0 - 50 - 100 - 150 but like 45.72 - 91.44 - 137.16. Which is plain fugly.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:55 am

That 4.5m of difference, in a 50m increment, is not unworkable.
Just transfer the values.
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Postby Puzikas » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:15 am

I have basically run out of things to say and topics to cover.

So I guess I'll just start art-ing, unless I need to immediately cover or explain or weigh in on something.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:18 am

How would one fire the L85/6/22/98/etc. left handed?
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:19 am

Bezombia wrote:How would one fire the L85/6/22/98/etc. left handed?

You'd train to fire it right-handed.
Or lose an eye.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:19 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:How would one fire the L85/6/22/98/etc. left handed?

You'd train to fire it right-handed.
Or lose an eye.

Oh.
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
I'm a poet. Come read my poems!

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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:19 am

Bezombia wrote:How would one fire the L85/6/22/98/etc. left handed?

Very carefully.
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Postby Premislyd » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:20 am

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AG-78 m/90

Name: AG-78 (Automatiskgevär model 78; "Automatic rifle, model of 1978)
Origin: High Kingdom of Estovnia
Designer: Asger Ekström
Manufacturer: Numerous
Produced: 1977-Present
In service: 1978-Present
Cost: $550
Weight: 3.45 kg
Length: 946 mm
Barrel length: 380 mm
Cartridge: 4.5mm Jørgensen (4.5x45mm)
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Rate of fire: 550 rpm
Effective range: 500 m
Feed system: 25 round detachable box magazine
Sights: Rear rotary diopter; hooded front post
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:21 am

Puzikas wrote:I have basically run out of things to say and topics to cover.

So I guess I'll just start art-ing, unless I need to immediately cover or explain or weigh in on something.

I'd like to hear about daily life in Soviet/immediate post soviet Russia, but that's for a different thred
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Premislyd » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:22 am

The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:
Puzikas wrote:I have basically run out of things to say and topics to cover.

So I guess I'll just start art-ing, unless I need to immediately cover or explain or weigh in on something.

I'd like to hear about daily life in Soviet/immediate post soviet Russia, but that's for a different thred


95% of it is trying not to get killed by the mafia
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:44 am

Premislyd wrote:(Image)

AG-78 m/90

I really like this.
HK33 FTW!

95% of it is trying not to get killed by the mafia

Or the public roads.
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Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.

For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.

For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.

For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:46 am

Premislyd wrote:(Image)

AG-78 m/90

Name: AG-78 (Automatiskgevär model 78; "Automatic rifle, model of 1978)
Origin: High Kingdom of Estovnia
Designer: Asger Ekström
Manufacturer: Numerous
Produced: 1977-Present
In service: 1978-Present
Cost: $550
Weight: 3.45 kg
Length: 946 mm
Barrel length: 380 mm
Cartridge: 4.5mm Jørgensen (4.5x45mm)
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Rate of fire: 550 rpm
Effective range: 500 m
Feed system: 25 round detachable box magazine
Sights: Rear rotary diopter; hooded front post


dat flash hider.
a very awesome weapon, sir.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:08 am

For capping fools in snowy hills.

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Model 49

Caliber: 9.5x75mm

Range: 1000 yards

Rate of Fire: Bolt Action

Magazine Capacity: 5

First designed in 1949 to be adopted by the Fordorsian Military, it was later used by the Fordorsian Rural Guard after it was rejected by the military due to the overly large cartridge it used being unsuitable to modern warfare. The Rural Guard made requests about altering the rifle to their specifications after they found the rifle to be bulky and heavy. The stock of the rifle was then shortened considerably and a new stock was developed, designed to be used on rifles fitted with a telescopic sight.
The Model 49 was adopted in 1950 by the F.R.G and still sees use today, as well as finding it's way into the hands of some marksmen in the police and the military.
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Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:35 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Bezombia wrote:How would one fire the L85/6/22/98/etc. left handed?

You'd train to fire it right-handed.
Or lose an eye.

Pretty normally, I believe. You just move your cheek further back for the obvious reasons.

Showing the posture.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:38 am

Kouralia wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:You'd train to fire it right-handed.
Or lose an eye.

Pretty normally, I believe. You just move your cheek further back for the obvious reasons.

Showing the posture.


L129A2 should obviously be the new service rifle.
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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