Fordorsia wrote:Kouralia wrote:Pretty normally, I believe. You just move your cheek further back for the obvious reasons.
Showing the posture.
L129A2 should obviously be the new service rifle.
Too AR15-y. Needs more British-developed.
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by Kouralia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:43 am
Fordorsia wrote:Kouralia wrote:Pretty normally, I believe. You just move your cheek further back for the obvious reasons.
Showing the posture.
L129A2 should obviously be the new service rifle.
by Black Hand » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:50 am
Puzikas wrote:You clearly don't know about the baby bald eagle built into each one.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Why is there a "joke option" included in the poll when "yes" is already there?
Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?
Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?
San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.
Bezombia wrote: "glorious discharge"
by Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:53 am
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Fischermann » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:55 am
Premislyd wrote:(Image)
AG-78 m/90
Name: AG-78 (Automatiskgevär model 78; "Automatic rifle, model of 1978)
Origin: High Kingdom of Estovnia
Designer: Asger Ekström
Manufacturer: Numerous
Produced: 1977-Present
In service: 1978-Present
Cost: $550
Weight: 3.45 kg
Length: 946 mm
Barrel length: 380 mm
Cartridge: 4.5mm Jørgensen (4.5x45mm)
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Rate of fire: 550 rpm
Effective range: 500 m
Feed system: 25 round detachable box magazine
Sights: Rear rotary diopter; hooded front post
by Risen Britannia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:57 am
Fordorsia wrote:Kouralia wrote:Pretty normally, I believe. You just move your cheek further back for the obvious reasons.
Showing the posture.
L129A2 should obviously be the new service rifle.
Lineart:Risen Britannia is no longer my main nation, if you have any questions please TG Novorden.
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by Bhelyant » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:01 am
Fordorsia wrote:Is there even any public information on it? I can't find anything about it anywhere. All I can find are news articles with simple, generic and often incorrect terms.
by Risen Britannia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:05 am
Lineart:Risen Britannia is no longer my main nation, if you have any questions please TG Novorden.
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by Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:11 am
Risen Britannia wrote:SA80 replacement:
What i would like- Extend the SA80s life for another 10-20years, for it to be replaced by a CTA rifle (or whatever tech is being used in 2020-2030)
What i wouldn't mind- The SA80 is replaced by a variant of the AUG/F2000/TAR/other bullpup
What i expect- The decision is put off for another 10 years with no changes to the rife, it is then replaced by an AR15 variant.
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by The Republic of Lanos » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:13 am
Fordorsia wrote:Risen Britannia wrote:SA80 replacement:
What i would like- Extend the SA80s life for another 10-20years, for it to be replaced by a CTA rifle (or whatever tech is being used in 2020-2030)
What i wouldn't mind- The SA80 is replaced by a variant of the AUG/F2000/TAR/other bullpup
What i expect- The decision is put off for another 10 years with no changes to the rife, it is then replaced by an AR15 variant.
I doubt even the Americans will be using AR15 variants in 10 years. There will probably be another massive standardization for NATO, this time with the rifles.
by The Archangel Conglomerate » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:17 am
Fordorsia wrote:I doubt even the Americans will be using AR15 variants in 10 years. There will probably be another massive standardization for NATO, this time with the rifles.
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:For want of lances, the heavy equipment never reached the field.
For want of heavy equipment the platoons FOs could direct no HMGs.
For want of HMGs, the Archians had to rely on shitty fucking microcalibers.
For want of real weapons, they lost the war.
by Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:17 am
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Crookfur » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:18 am
Risen Britannia wrote:SA80 replacement:
What i would like- Extend the SA80s life for another 10-20years, for it to be replaced by a CTA rifle (or whatever tech is being used in 2020-2030)
What i wouldn't mind- The SA80 is replaced by a variant of the AUG/F2000/TAR/other bullpup
What i expect- The decision is put off for another 10 years with no changes to the rife, it is then replaced by an AR15 variant.
by The Republic of Lanos » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:21 am
by Crookfur » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:22 am
by Puzikas » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:26 am
Fordorsia wrote:Risen Britannia wrote:SA80 replacement:
What i would like- Extend the SA80s life for another 10-20years, for it to be replaced by a CTA rifle (or whatever tech is being used in 2020-2030)
What i wouldn't mind- The SA80 is replaced by a variant of the AUG/F2000/TAR/other bullpup
What i expect- The decision is put off for another 10 years with no changes to the rife, it is then replaced by an AR15 variant.
I doubt even the Americans will be using AR15 variants in 10 years. There will probably be another massive standardization for NATO, this time with the rifles.
Sevvania wrote:I don't post much, but I am always here.
Usually waiting for Puz ;-;
by Risen Britannia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:31 am
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by The Republic of Lanos » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:32 am
by Bezombia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:35 am
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies
by United Republics of Aralon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:36 am
Premislyd wrote:(Image)
AG-78 m/90
Name: AG-78 (Automatiskgevär model 78; "Automatic rifle, model of 1978)
Origin: High Kingdom of Estovnia
Designer: Asger Ekström
Manufacturer: Numerous
Produced: 1977-Present
In service: 1978-Present
Cost: $550
Weight: 3.45 kg
Length: 946 mm
Barrel length: 380 mm
Cartridge: 4.5mm Jørgensen (4.5x45mm)
Action: Roller-delayed blowback
Rate of fire: 550 rpm
Effective range: 500 m
Feed system: 25 round detachable box magazine
Sights: Rear rotary diopter; hooded front post
Fordorsia wrote:For capping fools in snowy hills.
(Image)
Model 49
Caliber: 9.5x75mm
Range: 1000 yards
Rate of Fire: Bolt Action
Magazine Capacity: 5
First designed in 1949 to be adopted by the Fordorsian Military, it was later used by the Fordorsian Rural Guard after it was rejected by the military due to the overly large cartridge it used being unsuitable to modern warfare. The Rural Guard made requests about altering the rifle to their specifications after they found the rifle to be bulky and heavy. The stock of the rifle was then shortened considerably and a new stock was developed, designed to be used on rifles fitted with a telescopic sight.
The Model 49 was adopted in 1950 by the F.R.G and still sees use today, as well as finding it's way into the hands of some marksmen in the police and the military.
by Fordorsia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:37 am
Puzikas wrote:Fordorsia wrote:
I doubt even the Americans will be using AR15 variants in 10 years. There will probably be another massive standardization for NATO, this time with the rifles.
I'd disagree. There's still 1.5 million or so M16s/M4s out there, and at 600 per to replace them, I'm doubtful its going to see the end of its service life until NATO moves to a new round.
San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.
Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad
Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.
Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.
Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.
by Kouralia » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:39 am
Bezombia wrote:In Britain, the same basic trend happened. Bolt action Lee Enfield, fully automatic heavy FAL, fully automatic light SA80.
by United Republics of Aralon » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:42 am
Bezombia wrote:I'm not so sure with the whole "AR gone in 10 years" thing.
How many times have they tried to replace it? How many times have they actually replaced it? And this is, keep in mind, originally planned to be a stopgap rifle until a new one could replace it.
No, I think it will be around for longer than that. Why? Because it takes a lot to replace a rifle.
The M1903/M1906 was replaced by the M1 because semi-automatic fire was a huge jump over bolt action. The M14 was replaced by the M1 because fully automatic fire was a huge jump over semi-automatic - however that failed, and the M16 replaced it bringing small calibers and controllable fully automatic fire.
In Britain, the same basic trend happened. Bolt action Lee Enfield, fully automatic heavy FAL, fully automatic light SA80.
Even in Russia the trend continues. The Mosin to the AK (full auto heavy) to the AK-74 (full auto light).
So for a new rifle to come about for any of the major nations, something big would have to happen - something as big as changing to fully automatic fire, or adopting intermediate cartridges. Russia almost got there with the AN-94 (extremely accurate burst fire) but the AN is very complicated and still really isn't seeing use. The Germans took a different route and likewise got very close with the G11 (extremely accurate burst fire and very lightweight caseless ammunition) but in addition to the complexity a whole mess of political issues, such as reunification, fucked up that idea and killed the program, leading to the G36.
And that kind of innovation isn't being seen in current military trials. Look at the Individual Carbine Competition - one of the requirements was that it fired 7.62x51 or 5.56x45, so no cartridge innovation. Also most of the entrants were basic rifles that were better than the AR but weren't really anything new. Whilst the entrants were certainly "new" rifles (such as the HK416, ACR, SCAR, etc.) the concepts behind them aren't new at all, with older rifles such as the AR-18 being very similar to IC Competition rifles.
To sum everything up, in short imo we'd need an american equivalent to the G11 in order to see the AR replaced - and even the G11 wouldn't be good enough, because the G11 was part of the ACR program and lost.
by United states of brazilian nations » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:43 am
United states of brazilian nations wrote:Khornatenreich wrote:I demand you make a nagant-derived revolver chambered in .458 SOCOM. Except, heres'a twist for ye'. The .458 is loaded with a spire-point. This is a challenge I issue tae' thee, accept it and gain honor to your name.
a spire-point? you mean a pointed (spitzer-like) round with a soft tip? well, dis gonna be hard. anyways, shall i find enough time, i will try to do this.
you're aware that, even with the Nagant mechanism, the revolver won't achieve the same performance, right? the Nagant uses special rounds where the mouth/neck/whateveritsnameis of the case covers the bullet completely and even has a part ahead of it, so when it fires the case expansion seals the chamber/barrel, thus sealing all the gas. anyways, i guess a nagant mechanism will improve the performance a good bit. but i guess a supressor would be a no-go.
anyways, let's go to a more important point. isn't the .458 SOCOM unrimmed? i guess that, as i'm making a different bullet anyways, i could make a rimmed version of it?
and also, if i manage to make it, i'm planning to include some fancy backstory as i think my nation's people wouldn't be strong enough to stand the recoil from this beast. so i was planning to make something like, the weapon was designed to be exported to ulfheim nations. but as this would include your country and other countries residing in this part of the world, i though i'd ask for permission to do so.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Kouralia wrote:AKA FiSH and CHiPS(Fighting in Someone's House and Causing Havoc in Public Spaces):p
Fordorsia wrote:Breaking news: The estimated leading cause of death is dying.
Imperializt Russia wrote:Well what it is, is an 18.5mm piece of hollow metal that, through witchcraft and evil, becomes significantly larger than 18.5mm.
Puzikas wrote:fuck you for drawing a good looking bulpup AK.
Puzikas wrote:USBN has a sensor that triggers after anything vaguely Brazilian is mentioned.
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