Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Part 12

[Galla-]

That scope looks very far forward

It's a German rifle man, the very definition of "far forward".

In English this is called "overextended".

[Bezombia]

That scope looks very far forward

It's a German rifle man, the very definition of "far forward".

[Yes Im Biop]

That scope looks very far forward

It's a German rifle man, the very definition of "far forward".

Looks kinda strange and very useless being that far forward.

@Squiz: That probably came out wrong then...

[Aqizithiuda]

It's a German rifle man, the very definition of "far forward".

Looks kinda strange and very useless being that far forward.

@Squiz: That probably came out wrong then...

You don't need some fictional inner core that's harder than tungsten.

[Yes Im Biop]

Looks kinda strange and very useless being that far forward.

@Squiz: That probably came out wrong then...

You don't need some fictional inner core that's harder than tungsten.

I know. But an Alloy of Tungsten and something would be harder yes?

[Bezombia]

You don't need some fictional inner core that's harder than tungsten.

I know. But an Alloy of Tungsten and something would be harder yes?

An alloy of tungsten and tungsten.

Alternatively use handwave reality out the window and use adamantium.

[Yes Im Biop]

I know. But an Alloy of Tungsten and something would be harder yes?

An alloy of tungsten and tungsten.

Alternatively use handwave reality out the window and use adamantium.

Nope. And besides I would use vibrnium if nothing else... Is it bad my buddy and I had a 3 or 4 hour long argument/discussion about how a element that does not vibrate would work?

[Bezombia]

An alloy of tungsten and tungsten.

Alternatively use handwave reality out the window and use adamantium.

Nope. And besides I would use vibrnium if nothing else... Is it bad my buddy and I had a 3 or 4 hour long argument/discussion about how a element that does not vibrate would work?

No.

Also vibranium/adamantium alloy best shield alloy

[Aqizithiuda]

You don't need some fictional inner core that's harder than tungsten.

I know. But an Alloy of Tungsten and something would be harder yes?

Not necessarily. More importantly, it's not needed.

[Aqizithiuda]

I just realised that the modifications I've made to my caseless rifle's feed system mean that I'll need to redraw the entire mechanism. Fortunately, these modifications make it simpler.

[Bhelyant]

1) Bullets optimized for long range shooting tend to be slower and heavier than bullets designed for short range shooting, assuming the same cartridge. Lighter and faster bullets have a flatter trajectory at close range and tend to cause more severe wounds at close range.

2) Cartridges designed from the ground up for long range shooting tend to have either a small caliber or heavy recoil. Heavy recoil is bad for obvious reasons and a small caliber has less wounding potential than a wide caliber.

Bullet construction matters a lot of course, but this is assuming that everything else is equal.

So your issue with the 6.5 Grendel is because of the bullet choice in currently produced factory ammo? Why won't a 123 grain bullet from a 6.5 Grendel be at least on par as one from a x39, since they're going to at similar velocities out of a 16" barrel anyways?

[Central Alkebulan]

Alright, I just finished my first gun. Criticize/question away.

http://z13.invisionfree.invalid.com/CentralAlke ... howtopic=1

I hope the link works, if not I'll just post the info on here directly.
Anyway, the gun is designed for jungle combat though not exclusively. Did I leave any information out of the specifications aside from the length differences between the Type A and Type B?

[Bezombia]

Alright, I just finished my first gun. Criticize/question away.

http://z13.invisionfree.invalid.com/CentralAlke ... howtopic=1

I hope the link works, if not I'll just post the info on here directly.
Anyway, the gun is designed for jungle combat though not exclusively. Did I leave any information out of the specifications aside from the length differences between the Type A and Type B?

The link works. The gun doesn't.

The image is very out of scale. I suggest tracing an IRL rifle and then modifying it as necessary. It's basically what everyone does here.

[Aqizithiuda]

1) Bullets optimized for long range shooting tend to be slower and heavier than bullets designed for short range shooting, assuming the same cartridge. Lighter and faster bullets have a flatter trajectory at close range and tend to cause more severe wounds at close range.

2) Cartridges designed from the ground up for long range shooting tend to have either a small caliber or heavy recoil. Heavy recoil is bad for obvious reasons and a small caliber has less wounding potential than a wide caliber.

Bullet construction matters a lot of course, but this is assuming that everything else is equal.

So your issue with the 6.5 Grendel is because of the bullet choice in currently produced factory ammo? Why won't a 123 grain bullet from a 6.5 Grendel be at least on par as one from a x39, since they're going to at similar velocities out of a 16" barrel anyways?

Since when were you using a 16" barrel?

Alright, I just finished my first gun. Criticize/question away.

http://z13.invisionfree.invalid.com/CentralAlke ... howtopic=1

I hope the link works, if not I'll just post the info on here directly.
Anyway, the gun is designed for jungle combat though not exclusively. Did I leave any information out of the specifications aside from the length differences between the Type A and Type B?

The link works. The gun doesn't.

The image is very out of scale. I suggest tracing an IRL rifle and then modifying it as necessary. It's basically what everyone does here.

I can name a couple of people who don't do that, myself technically included (especially once I finish my caseless rifle).

[The United Republic of the Helghan Race]

petrusite rounds in every weapon we use but the main weapon is still classified

[Central Alkebulan]

Alright, I just finished my first gun. Criticize/question away.

http://z13.invisionfree.invalid.com/CentralAlke ... howtopic=1

I hope the link works, if not I'll just post the info on here directly.
Anyway, the gun is designed for jungle combat though not exclusively. Did I leave any information out of the specifications aside from the length differences between the Type A and Type B?

The link works. The gun doesn't.

The image is very out of scale. I suggest tracing an IRL rifle and then modifying it as necessary. It's basically what everyone does here.

Image aside then. Does it, well, function?

[Bezombia]

The link works. The gun doesn't.

The image is very out of scale. I suggest tracing an IRL rifle and then modifying it as necessary. It's basically what everyone does here.

Image aside then. Does it, well, function?

Images aside the writeup seems very sound. I'd myself go for a larger magazine, but hey if your doctrine says that smaller mags are better, go for it.
The only real problem I see is that your effective range is about twice what 7.62x39's effective range actually is.

[Tule]

1) Bullets optimized for long range shooting tend to be slower and heavier than bullets designed for short range shooting, assuming the same cartridge. Lighter and faster bullets have a flatter trajectory at close range and tend to cause more severe wounds at close range.

2) Cartridges designed from the ground up for long range shooting tend to have either a small caliber or heavy recoil. Heavy recoil is bad for obvious reasons and a small caliber has less wounding potential than a wide caliber.

Bullet construction matters a lot of course, but this is assuming that everything else is equal.

So your issue with the 6.5 Grendel is because of the bullet choice in currently produced factory ammo? Why won't a 123 grain bullet from a 6.5 Grendel be at least on par as one from a x39, since they're going to at similar velocities out of a 16" barrel anyways?

If both cartridges were to use the same bullet, the wider bullet of the same weight at the same velocity would be a better choice for close range combat like what could be expected in your country. It would make a bigger hole in humans, which means more severe wounds.

[Central Alkebulan]

Image aside then. Does it, well, function?

Images aside the writeup seems very sound. I'd myself go for a larger magazine, but hey if your doctrine says that smaller mags are better, go for it.
The only real problem I see is that your effective range is about twice what 7.62x39's effective range actually is.

I used the effective range of the Ak-47 off wiki. What should it be then?

[Bhelyant]

Since when were you using a 16" barrel?

The question originally proposed by CA was if 6.5 Grendel would make for a good round for a general issue rifle, so I just assumed that we were all talking about carbines, especially since you made the claim 6.5 G would be a poor performer at short distances.

[Black Hand]

Tiberium Powered Railgun Y/N?

[Bezombia]

Images aside the writeup seems very sound. I'd myself go for a larger magazine, but hey if your doctrine says that smaller mags are better, go for it.
The only real problem I see is that your effective range is about twice what 7.62x39's effective range actually is.

I used the effective range of the Ak-47 off wiki. What should it be then?

Wikipedia article on AKM says:
Effective range 400 m
Maximum range 1000 m

400m is what you should go with.

BH: No. Just...no.
...
Ununoctium powered railgun is better.

[Bhelyant]

If both cartridges were to use the same bullet, the wider bullet of the same weight at the same velocity would be a better choice for close range combat like what could be expected in your country. It would make a bigger hole in humans, which means more severe wounds.

I'd imagine that's true if we're hunting deer with hollowpoints, but since the trend for military ammunition is to use a round that either fragments, yaws, or tumbles, why wouldn't the *longer* round be more lethal? Those specific types would actually favour the smaller diametres, assuming a similar bullet weight.

[Tule]

Since when were you using a 16" barrel?

The question originally proposed by CA was if 6.5 Grendel would make for a good round for a general issue rifle, so I just assumed that we were all talking about carbines, especially since you made the claim 6.5 G would be a poor performer at short distances.

Not necessarily a poor performer at close range, just a sub-optimal performer at close range.

Central Alkebulan was looking for a cartridge good for close range combat in a jungle environment.

Using the 6.5 Grendel in a jungle environment would be a bit like using a BMW M5 as a city car.

The M5 wouldn't necessarily be a bad city car, but you are much better off with a Ford Fiesta.

[Khornatenreich]

Tiberium Powered Railgun Y/N?

y