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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:03 am

Themiclesia wrote:
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It's really something developed by the unit itself over time, and can't be artificially constructed. That's why nowadays if the US Army has to raise a new unit, most often they'll give it the name, colors, and lineage of a previous unit that was decommissioned in the past.

Unless your military is literally brand new and has never fought in a war before, it should have units that have distinguished themselves in the past. Even units that aren't famous like the 101st Airborne or 442nd RCT have lineage for unit members to take pride in. Famous heroes of the past who were perceived to be exemplars of the service's tenets also tend to help, such as Chesty Puller and Smedley Butler for the US Marines.


Well, each of our armies (six in total) traces its origin back to a significant figure who led this group to victory in notable circumstances, so I suppose that could serve as a 'beacon' or 'reminder' of sorts of one's pride in those armies.

Such as our Principal Army traces its origin intermittently back to 1496, whose leadership is tied to the Earl of Melonmere before the 18th Century, whence command was transferred to the King permanently. The New Army was raised as a standing army in 1697, etc.

For such a reason, our six armies are pretty much independently operating, which difference extends to structure and personnel management, and preserves certain medieval traditions, but I'm not sure if such divisive difference it's a good thing.


It's not. Tradition is nice but not if it impedes function.
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Postby Themiclesia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:04 am

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Themiclesia wrote:
Well, each of our armies (six in total) traces its origin back to a significant figure who led this group to victory in notable circumstances, so I suppose that could serve as a 'beacon' or 'reminder' of sorts of one's pride in those armies.

Such as our Principal Army traces its origin intermittently back to 1496, whose leadership is tied to the Earl of Melonmere before the 18th Century, whence command was transferred to the King permanently. The New Army was raised as a standing army in 1697, etc.

For such a reason, our six armies are pretty much independently operating, which difference extends to structure and personnel management, and preserves certain medieval traditions, but I'm not sure if such divisive difference it's a good thing.


It's not. Tradition is nice but not if it impedes function.


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Postby Xanixi » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:12 am

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Well, yes, of course. This isn't so that they can go back into the fight. That's not what I'm looking for. If you need prostheses, you're getting medically discharged and sent home.


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I am also in 2037, which - or at least so far as I have been told - should make it easier for me to actually be able to use this technology on the front lines (although, assuming the costs still haven't actually dimmed, would be restricted to certain special operations forces).


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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:32 am

It's probably best to use wartime expenditures on your army in peacetime.

That way you're ready for war, even in the middle of peace.
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Postby Romberg » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:33 am

Also a good justification for conscription.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:48 am

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In an AEW&CS context, what is the difference between ground surveillance and remote sensing? (Both are manned aircraft).

I'm not certain. Both sound like buzzwords frankly.

Purely on a contextual basis, ground surveillance seems like active methods of searching for ground targets while "remote sensing" seems to imply passive acquisition methods.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:51 am

Have a look at my Panzergrenadiers, lol. Mixed Armoured Infantry.

Panzergrenadiertrupp (Armoured Infantry Squad)
Trpkdt. (Squad Commander): Corporal – StG 77A5
Panzerobergrenadier (PFC) – MG3
Panzergrenadier – StG 77A5 w/AG77
Panzergrenadier – StG 77A5

Unterstützungstrupp (Manoeuvre Support Squad)
Trpkdt. (Squad Commander): Corporal (Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Trpkdtstf. (Deputy Squad Commander) : Panzerobergrenadier (PFC) – StG 77A5C w/PALW M14/PALW Spike
Panzergrenadier – StG 77A5 w/PALW M14/PALW Spike
Panzergrenadier – StG 77A5 w/PAR 12 SMAW II

Unterstützungsgruppe (Manoeuvre Support Section) – 12 pers
Grpkdt. (Section Commander): Zugsführer (Staff Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Grpkdtstf. (Deputy Section Commander): Corporal (Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Unterstützungsgruppe A (Manoeuvre Support Squad A)
Unterstützungsgruppe B (Manoeuvre Support Squad B)
SPz Huszár (AY151B Javelin IFV)


Panzergrenadiergruppe (Armoured Infantry Section) – 12 pers.
Grpkdt. (Section Commander): Zugsführer (Staff Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Grpkdtstf. (Deputy Section Commander): Corporal – StG 77A5
Panzergrenadiertrupp A (Armoured Infantry Squad A)
Panzergrenadiertrupp B (Armoured Infantry Squad B)
SPz Huszár (AY151B Javelin IFV)


Panzerabwehr Trupp (AT Squad)
Trpkdt. (Squad Commander): Corporal (Corporal) – StG 77A5
Panzerobergrenadier – StG 77A5 w/PALW 02 NLAW
Panzergrenadier – StG 77A5 w/PALW 02 NLAW
Panzergrenadier – StG 77A5 w/PAR 12 SMAW II

Panzerabwehr Gruppe (AT Section) – 12 pers.
Grpkdt. (Section Commander): Feldwebel (Sergeant) – StG 77A5C
Grpkdtstf. (Deputy Section Commander): Zugsführer (Staff Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Panzerabwehr Trupp A (AT Squad A)
Panzerabwehr Trupp B (AT Squad B)
SPz Huszár (AY151B Javelin IFV)


Meldergruppe (Signals Section) – 12 pers.
Grpkdt. (Section Commander): Zugsführer (Staff Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Grpkdtstf. (Deputy Section Commander): Corporal (Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Meldertrupp A (Signals Squad A)
Meldertrupp B (Signals Squad A)
MTPz Huszár (AY151A Javelin APC)


Fernmelderzug (Signals Platoon) – 52 pers.
Zgkdt. (Platoon Commander): Oberleutnant (Senior Lieutenant) – StG 77A5C
Zgkdtstf. (Deputy Platoon Commander): Stabsfeldwebel (Staff Sergeant) – StG 77A5C
Melder (Signaller) : Oberfunker (PFC) – StG 77A5
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Soldat – StG 77A5
Meldergruppe A (Signals Section A)
Meldergruppe B (Signals Section B)
Meldergruppe C (Signals Section C)
Meldergruppe D (Signals Section D)
Dingo 2


Panzergrenadierzug (Armoured Infantry Troop) – 54 pers.
Zgkdt. (Troop Commander): Oberleutnant (Senior Lieutenant) – StG 77A5C
Zgkdtstf. (Deputy Troop Commander): Stabsfeldwebel (Staff Sergeant) – StG 77A5C
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Panzerobergrenadier (PFC) – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
FüPz Sultan
Panzergrenadiergruppe A (Armoured Infantry Section A)
Panzergrenadiergruppe B (Armoured Infantry Section B)
Panzergrenadiergruppe C (Armoured Infantry Section C)
Panzergrenadiergruppe D (Armoured Infantry Section D)


Sturmkanonenzug (Assault Gun Platoon) - 21 pers
Zgkdt. (Platoon Commander): Oberleutnant (Senior Lieutenant) - StG 77A5C
Zgkdtstf. (Deputy Platoon Commander): Stabsfeuerwerker (Staff Sergeant) - StG 77A5C
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Vormeister (PFC) - StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker - StG 77A5C
Melder (Signaller): Funker - StG 77A5C
FüPz Sultan
Sturmkanone 97 auf Fahrgestell Leopard 2 x4


Luftabwehrzug (Air Defence Platoon) - 25 pers
Zgkdt. (Platoon Commander): Oberleutnant (Senior Lieutenant) - StG 77A5C
Zgkdtstf. (Deputy Platoon Commander): Stabsfeuerwerker (Staff Sergeant) - StG 77A5C
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Vormeister (PFC) - StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker - StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker - StG 77A5
FüPz Sultan
FlakPz Tigris x4
FlaRakPz Starstreak x2


Sanitätstrupp (Medical Squad)
Trpkdt. (Squad Commander): Zugsführer (Staff Corporal) – StG 77A5
Corporal – StG 77A5
Sanitätsoldat (Medic) – StG 77A5
Sanitätsoldat (Medic) – StG 77A5
Sanitätsoldat (Medic) – StG 77A5

Unterstützungszug (Manoeuvre Support Platoon) – 57 pers.
Zgkdt. (Platoon Commander): Oberleutnant (Senior Lieutenant) – StG 77A5C
Zgkdtstf. (Deputy Platoon Commander): Stabsfeldwebel (Staff Sergeant) – StG 77A5C
Melder (Signaller): Oberfunker (PFC) – StG 77A5
Schütze (Marksman): G28A1
Schütze (Marksman): G28A1
Unterstüzungsgruppe A (Manoeuvre Support Section A)
Unterstüzungsgruppe B (Manoeuvre Support Section B)
Unterstüzungsgruppe C (Manoeuvre Support Section C)
Unterstüzungsgruppe D (Manoeuvre Support Section D)
Panzerabwehrgruppe (AT Section)
FüPz Sultan


Sanitätsgruppe (Medical Section) – 23 pers.
Grpkdt. (Section Commander): Feldwebel (Sergeant) – StG 77A5C
Grpkdtstf. (Deputy Section Commander): Zugsführer (Staff Corporal) – StG 77A5C
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
Sanitätsoldat (Medic) – StG 77A5
Sanitätsoldat (Medic) – StG 77A5
Sanitätstrupp A (Medical Squad A)
Sanitätstrupp B (Medical Squad B)
MTPz Pandur IISAN (Pandur II APC MEDEVAC) x2
MTPz Huszár (AY151A Javelin APC) x2
Dingo 2


Panzergrenadiercompagnie (Armoured Infantry Company) – 328 pers.
Cpkdt. (Company Commander): Major (Major) – StG 77A5C
Cpkdtstf. (Deputy Company Commander): Hauptmann (Captain) – StG 77A5C
Cpfw. (Company Sergeant Major): Hauptfeldwebel (Colour Sergeant) – StG 77A5C
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Panzerobergrenadier (PFC) – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
1. Panzergrenadierzug (No. 1 Armoured Infantry Platoon)
2. Panzergrenadierzug (No. 2 Armoured Infantry Platoon)
3. Panzergrenadierzug (No. 3 Armoured Infantry Platoon)
4. Unterstützungszug (No. 4 Manoeuvre Support Platoon)
Bergepanzerzug (ARV Troop) x2
Sanitätsgruppe (Medical Section) x2
FüPz Sultan
Dingo 2


Panzergrenadierbataillon (Armoured Infantry Battalion) – 775 pers.
Batkdt. (Battalion Commander): Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant-Colonel) – StG 77A5C
Batkdtstf. (Deputy Battalion Commander): Major – StG 77A5C
Batfw. (Battalion Sergeant Major): Offizierstellvertreter (Warrant Officer Class Two) – StG 77A5C
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Panzerobergrenadier (PFC) – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
1. Panzergrenadiercompagnie (No. 1 Armoured Infantry Company)
2. Panzergrenadiercompagnie (No. 2 Armoured Infantry Company)
Sturmkanonenzug (Assault Gun Platoon)
Luftabwehrzug (Air Defence Platoon)
Sicherungsgruppe (Security Section)
Fernmelderzug (Signals Platoon)
MTPz Pandur IISAN (Pandur II MEDEVAC) x2
FüPz Sultan x4
MTPz Huszár (AY151A Javelin APC) x4
Dingo 2


Kampfpanzerbataillon (Armoured Battalion) – 475 pers.
Batkdt. (Battalion Commander): Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant-Colonel) – StG 77A5C
Batkdtstf. (Deputy Battalion Commander): Major – StG 77A5C
Batfw (Battalion Sergeant Major): Offizierstellvertreter (Warrant Officer Class Two) – StG 77A5C
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Panzerobergrenadier (PFC) – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
1. Kampfpanzereskadron (No. 1 Armoured Squadron)
2. Kampfpanzereskadron (No. 2 Armoured Squadron)
Aufklärungszug (Reconnaissance Troop)
Sturmkanonenzug (Assault Gun Platoon)
Luftabwehrzug (Air Defence Platoon)
Sicherungsgruppe (Security Section)
Fernmelderzug (Signals Troop)
KPz Oroszlán (AY2-1L Panthera Leo) x2
MTPz Pandur IISAN (Pandur II MEDEVAC) x2
FüPz Sultan x4
MTPz Huszár (AY151A Javelin APC) x4
Dingo 2


Panzergrenadierregiment (Armoured Infantry Regiment) – 1299 pers.
Regkdt. (Regimental Commander): Oberst (Colonel)
Regkdtstf. (Deputy Regimental Commander): Oberstleutnant (Lieutenant-Colonel)
Regfw. (Regimental Sergeant Major): Offizierstellvertreter (Warrant Officer Class Two) - StG 77A5
Militärkraftfahrer (Driver): Panzerobergrenadier (PFC)
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
Melder (Signaller): Funker – StG 77A5
I. Panzergrenadierbataillon (No. 1 Armoured Infantry Battalion)
II. Panzerbataillon (No. 2 Armoured Battalion)
Sicherungsgruppe (Security Section)
Fernmelderzug (Signals Platoon)
KPz Oroszlán (AY2-1L Panthera Leo) x2
MTPz Pandur IIFÜ (Pandur II Command) x4
MTPz Huszár (AY151A Javelin APC) x4
Dingo 2 x5
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Postby The Caldari Union » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:00 am

Democratic Koyro wrote:More military formations. Yay.

The following is an SPG artillery battalion, found in mechanized and tank brigades of the Koy National Revolutionary Forces.

(Protip: XO= Executive Officer, second in command)

Battalion HQ

Command Staff

BMP-1 ACV RADAR Battalion Command Version (Vehicle Crew: Commander, Radar Operator, Radio Operator, Driver)

- CO
- XO
- Regimental Officer
- Regimental Officer
- Regimental Officer
- Senior NCO
- Senior NCO

BMP-1 Battalion Fire Direction Vehicle (Commander, Radio Operator, Driver)

- CO
- Senior NCO
- Command Staff
- Command Staff
- Command Staff
- Command Staff

Headquarters Staff Truck URAL 4320 (Driver)

- Senior NCO
- Senior NCO
- Command Staff
- Command Staff
- Command Staff
- Command Staff
- Command Staff
- Command Staff

Signals Truck (Driver)

- Directing NCO
- Operator
- Operator
- Operator
- Operator

BMP-1 Artillery Recon (Commander, Driver, Gunner, Radar Operator)

First Battery

Command Platoon

BMP-1 Battery ACV (Commander, Driver, Radio Operator, Radar Operator)

- CO
- XO
- Company NCO

BMP-1 Battery Fire Direction Vehicle (Commander, Driver, Artillery Computer Operator, Radar Operator, Radio Operator)

Transportation Squad

URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Commander)
URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Driver)
URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Driver)

Fire Group One

2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)

Fire Group Two

2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)


Second Battery

Command Platoon

BMP-1 Battery ACV (Commander, Driver, Radio Operator, Radar Operator)

- CO
- XO
- Company NCO

BMP-1 Battery Fire Direction Vehicle (Commander, Driver, Artillery Computer Operator, Radar Operator, Radio Operator)

Transportation Squad

URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Commander)
URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Driver)
URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Driver)

Fire Group One

2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)

Fire Group Two

2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)


Third Battery

Command Platoon

BMP-1 Battery ACV (Commander, Driver, Radio Operator, Radar Operator)

- CO
- XO
- Company NCO

BMP-1 Battery Fire Direction Vehicle (Commander, Driver, Artillery Computer Operator, Radar Operator, Radio Operator)

Transportation Squad

URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Commander)
URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Driver)
URAL 4320 Ammunition Truck (Driver)

Fire Group One

2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)

Fire Group Two

2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)
2S3 Akatsiya (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator)

Support Company

Commanding Officer
Executive Officer
Company NCO

General Purpose Truck Squad

URAL 4320 (Commander)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)

General Purpose Truck Squad

URAL 4320 (Commander)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)
URAL 4320 (Driver)

Maintainence Platoon

- CO
- XO
- Platoon Sergeant

Maintainence Squad Armoured Vehicles

Mobile Workshop (Driver)

- NCO
- Technician
- Technician
- Technician
- Technician

Maintainence Squad Trucks

Mobile Workshop (Driver)

- NCO
- Technician
- Technician
- Technician
- Technician

Utility Truck Squad

URAL 4320 Food Truck (Commander)
URAL 4320 Food Truck (Driver)
URAL 4320 Fuel Tanker (Driver)
URAL 4320 Fuel Tanker (Driver)
URAL 4320 Fuel Tanker w/ Fuel Trailer (Driver)
URAL 4320 Fuel Tanker w/ Fuel Trailer (Driver)
URAL 4320 Water Tanker (Driver)
URAL 4320 Water Tanker (Driver)

Cookhouse Squad

Mobile Kitchen w/Field Kitchen Trailer (Commander)

- Private
- Private
- Private
- Private

Mobile Kitchen w/Field Kitchen Trailer (Commander)

- Private
- Private
- Private
- Private


An Artillery Recon Battery will often be attatched to the Battalion from a specialized recon battalion, though Artillery Battalions do not maintain their own recon batteries.

Battery HQ

Command Truck (driver)

- CO
- XO
- Company Sergeant
- Artillery Computer Operator
- Radio Operator

Command Scout Team

BTR-40 Scout Vehicle (Commander, Driver, Gunner, Rear Seat Systems Operator)

Counter Battery Radar Platoon

BTR-60 Counter Battery Radar System control vehicle (Platoon CO, Driver, Radio Operator, Radar Systems Operator, Artillery Computer Operator, Technician)
BTR-60 Counter Battery Radar Station (Platoon XO, Driver, Radio Operator, Radar Systems Operator)
BTR-60 Counter Battery Radar Station (Commander, Driver, Radio Operator, Radar Systems Operator)

Audiometric Recon Platoon

URAL 4320 Computer Squad Vehicle (Platoon CO, Driver, Digital Signals Operator, Radio Operator)
URAL 4320 Audiometric Intel Squad Vehicle (Platoon XO, Driver, Audiometric Systems Operator, Radio Operator)
URAL 4320 Audiometric Intel Squad Vehicle (Commander, Driver, Aduiometric Systems Operator, Radio Operator)
URAL 4320 Audiometric Intel Squad Vehicle (Commander, Driver, Aduiometric Systems Operator, Radio Operator)
Survey and Signals Van (Driver/Commander, Technician, Technician).

General Survelliance Platoon

Command Group

Command Truck (Driver, Platoon CO, Platoon XO, Artillery Computer Operator, Artillery Computer Operator, Radio Operator, Radio Operator)
Data-prosessing truck (Driver, Artillery Computer Operator, Radio Operator, Radio Operator, Systems Operator, Systems Operator)

Topographic Survey Squad

Topographic Survey Truck (Driver, Systems Operator, Systems Operator, Radio Operator)
Topographic Survey Truck (Driver, Systems Operator, Systems Operator, Radio Operator)


Meteorological Survey Squad

Meteorological Sensing System (Two Armoured Trucks) (6 crew)


I'm more concerned regarding the Recon Battery to be honest. I'm sensing i may be missing something important from it.


Your arty group has too many trucks not enough guns. Why do you need the survey group just use unmanned aircraft.

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Postby Kouralia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:07 am

Immoren wrote:


Didn't you have enlisted/career force or did I remember wrong? :P

Yes, I have an utterly profesisonal force. And Kouralia sneers (quietly) at those who use conscription. Mostly because the military is built up so much in Kouralia that if they want 10,000 new recruits they can advertise for new recruits: get 30-50,000 applications, take 20,000 through to training, then slam half of them into the Reserve forces (or they can't hack it and they bugger off) and end up with the best of the applicants. :p
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:46 am

In an Armoured Infantry Battalion, should things like Logistics trucks and Ambulances have tracks, or is it acceptable for them to be on wheels?
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Postby Immoren » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:43 am

Kouralia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Didn't you have enlisted/career force or did I remember wrong? :P

Yes, I have an utterly profesisonal force. And Kouralia sneers (quietly) at those who use conscription. Mostly because the military is built up so much in Kouralia that if they want 10,000 new recruits they can advertise for new recruits: get 30-50,000 applications, take 20,000 through to training, then slam half of them into the Reserve forces (or they can't hack it and they bugger off) and end up with the best of the applicants. :p


Just poking fun because you didn't modify that medical platoon to suit more professional force. :p


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wheels are propably enough. Unless road network is really shitty and terrain is really lolz.
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Postby Lubyak » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:48 am

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Well, each of our armies (six in total) traces its origin back to a significant figure who led this group to victory in notable circumstances, so I suppose that could serve as a 'beacon' or 'reminder' of sorts of one's pride in those armies.

Such as our Principal Army traces its origin intermittently back to 1496, whose leadership is tied to the Earl of Melonmere before the 18th Century, whence command was transferred to the King permanently. The New Army was raised as a standing army in 1697, etc.

For such a reason, our six armies are pretty much independently operating, which difference extends to structure and personnel management, and preserves certain medieval traditions, but I'm not sure if such divisive difference it's a good thing.


It's not. Tradition is nice but not if it impedes function.


To be fair given the rest of his military....I don't think traditions are the biggest impediment to function.

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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:50 am

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It's not. Tradition is nice but not if it impedes function.


To be fair given the rest of his military....I don't think traditions are the biggest impediment to function.


Tradition seems to be the driving force behind most of the other impediments though.
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Conscription is the best tbh.
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I conscript them young then let them decide if they want to serve or not.

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:20 am

I need you guys to take a quick peek at a tank design I dredged up from the depths of my imagination. The image is still raw and shows a rough profile and front view with the ammo storage displayed as it would stand with a bustle autoloader. The tank is supposed to be a contemporary of the T-72 and carries 34 rounds of 123mm ammo. With 18 being ready in the autoloader and a further 16 stowed in the hull. Do you think it looks about right for the era and role?

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Postby Kouralia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:29 am

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Kouralia wrote:Yes, I have an utterly profesisonal force. And Kouralia sneers (quietly) at those who use conscription. Mostly because the military is built up so much in Kouralia that if they want 10,000 new recruits they can advertise for new recruits: get 30-50,000 applications, take 20,000 through to training, then slam half of them into the Reserve forces (or they can't hack it and they bugger off) and end up with the best of the applicants. :p


Just poking fun because you didn't modify that medical platoon to suit more professional force. :p

I have no idea how that would be done... D:

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Purpelia wrote:I need you guys to take a quick peek at a tank design I dredged up from the depths of my imagination. The image is still raw and shows a rough profile and front view with the ammo storage displayed as it would stand with a bustle autoloader. The tank is supposed to be a contemporary of the T-72 and carries 34 rounds of 123mm ammo. With 18 being ready in the autoloader and a further 16 stowed in the hull. Do you think it looks about right for the era and role?

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Turret shape makes me sad but I dont see any problems, rather good actually.
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:39 am

Questers wrote:For some reason nicotine often has a calming, relaxing effect on people. It's good for steadying the nerves.

That's why we have them in rations though not many. Smokers are also unlikely to catch a cold which is also handy,though reduced pulmonary function is not, so the habit is not encouraged in any form.
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Questers wrote:For some reason nicotine often has a calming, relaxing effect on people. It's good for steadying the nerves.

That's why we have them in rations though not many. Smokers are also unlikely to catch a cold which is also handy,though reduced pulmonary function is not, so the habit is not encouraged in any form.

Try issuing nicotine in a different form.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:57 am

Questers wrote:
Purpelia wrote:I need you guys to take a quick peek at a tank design I dredged up from the depths of my imagination. The image is still raw and shows a rough profile and front view with the ammo storage displayed as it would stand with a bustle autoloader. The tank is supposed to be a contemporary of the T-72 and carries 34 rounds of 123mm ammo. With 18 being ready in the autoloader and a further 16 stowed in the hull. Do you think it looks about right for the era and role?

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Turret shape makes me sad but I dont see any problems, rather good actually.

What's wrong with the turret shape?
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Postby Immoren » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:22 am

Kouralia wrote:
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Just poking fun because you didn't modify that medical platoon to suit more professional force. :p

I have no idea how that would be done... D:

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Probably replacing civilian specialists with medical officers and senior medical ncos.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:23 am

Hey I, maybe you can take a look at my tank. Also, if you feel that having a bustle autoloader like that is too soon for 1969 I'll leave that out for the 1982 ELVIS variant.
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Postby Lolder » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:28 am

If I had a formation of 10 soldiers, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

If I had a formation of 10 vehicles, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

If I had a formation of 10 aircraft, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:47 am

Lolder wrote:If I had a formation of 10 soldiers, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

If I had a formation of 10 vehicles, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

If I had a formation of 10 aircraft, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

You wouldn't ordinarily expect to see "support staff" with a formation of infantry until approximately the Battalion level.
Vehicles and aircraft have them arranged lower, I believe.

It depends on what your force is doing, and what the vehicles and aircraft specifically are.
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