NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #4

[Gridea]

Revolutionary People's Army platoon organization chart.

so paint
so orbat
wow

Anyways, that looks okay to me.

[The Kievan People]

RPG-29
Moar RPG-32
MBT LAW
Spike-MR
SMAW
Metis-M
etc... :P

Predator-SRAW
Spike-SR
Spike-LR
Strix
CKEM
Spike-NLOS
Precision Attack Missile
Loitering Attack Missile
SADARM 5-inch
SADARM 8-inch
SADARM MLRS
MLRS TGSM
JSOW BAT
ATACMS BAT
Tomahawk BAT
LOCAAS Prompt Global Strike



NO TANK WILL BE SAFE. ANYWHERE. EVER.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Revolutionary People's Army platoon organization chart.

so paint
so orbat
wow

Anyways, that looks okay to me.

Thanks. The chart helps me visualize it better.

[Kulsandia]

Platoon:

Headquarters Section XA-180

Platoon CO (G36C) (Vehicle Commander)
Driver (G36C)
Radio Operator (G36C)
Runner (G36C)
Platoon Sergeant (G36C)
Medic NCO (G36C)

1x Weapons Squad XA-180

Squad Leader/Platoon XO (G36C) (Vehicle Commander)
Medical NCO (G36C) (Vehicle Driver)

GPMG Team

Team leader (G36)
Gunner (MG3)
Assistant (G36)
Assistant (G36)

Tank Buster Team

Team Leader/Gunner (G36 w/SMAW)
Assistant (G36)
Gunner (G36 w/SMAW)
Assistant (G36)

Light Mortar Team

Team Leader (G36)
Gunner (G36) (51mm Mortar)
Assistant (G36)
Assistant (G36)

3x Rifle Squads XA-180

Squad Leader (G36C) (Vehicle Commander)
Medical NCO (G36C) (Vehicle Driver)

Fire Team One

Team Leader (G36)
Grenadier (G36 w/grenade launcher)
Automatic Rifleman (MG4)
Rifleman (G36)

Fire Team Two

Team Leader (G36)
Grenadier (G36 w/grenade launcher)
Automatic Rifleman (MG4)
Anti-tank Rifleman (G36 w/PzF-3)

Fire Team Three

Team Leader (G36)
Grenadier (G36 w/grenade launcher)
Automatic Rifleman (MG4)
Designated Marksman (Scoped G3)

repost. Current Rifle Platoon. SO, hows it look?

5x XA-180 Armoured Personnel carriers (Armed with remote MG3)
1x 51mm Mortar
2x SMAW
3x PzF-3
3x Marksman Rifles
9x Light Machine Guns
9x underslung grenade launchers
1x General Purpose Machine guns
46x Assault Rifles and Carbines
58 men total including platoon HQ.

[The Nuclear Fist]

RPG-29
Moar RPG-32
MBT LAW
Spike-MR
SMAW
Metis-M
etc... :P

Predator-SRAW
Spike-SR
Spike-LR
Strix
CKEM
Spike-NLOS
Precision Attack Missile
Loitering Attack Missile
SADARM 5-inch
SADARM 8-inch
SADARM MLRS
MLRS TGSM
JSOW BAT
ATACMS BAT
Tomahawk BAT
LOCAAS Prompt Global Strike



NO TANK WILL BE SAFE. ANYWHERE. EVER.

As long as my anti-tank squad can (theoretically) wipe out an enemy tank company, I'm okay with using the Spike, like Immoren said.

[The Nuclear Fist]

What should I include in a company HQ? I was thinking of a company leader (captain), assistant, radiotelephone operator, and two medics.

[The Kievan People]

As long as my anti-tank squad can (theoretically) wipe out an enemy tank company, I'm okay with using the Spike, like Immoren said.

You might think that. But what happens if my tanks show up at night in a rainstorm? HUH? Your missiles will be useless.

The smell of morning fog is the smell of victory.

[The Nuclear Fist]

As long as my anti-tank squad can (theoretically) wipe out an enemy tank company, I'm okay with using the Spike, like Immoren said.

You might think that. But what happens if my tanks show up at night in a rainstorm? HUH? Your missiles will be useless.

The smell of morning fog is the smell of victory.

Couldn't I just fire them anyway?

Also, if rain would be such a problem, what would you suggest? I'd like an anti-tank weapon I can use in any kind of weather.

[Immoren]

What should I include in a company HQ? I was thinking of a company leader (captain), assistant, radiotelephone operator, and two medics.

Company chief
Company 2ic
First sergeant/company sergeant major/quartermaster
Company forward observer commander
RTO for each above.

[The Nuclear Fist]

What should I include in a company HQ? I was thinking of a company leader (captain), assistant, radiotelephone operator, and two medics.

Company chief
Company 2ic
First sergeant/company sergeant major/quartermaster
Company forward observer commander
RTO for each above.

RTO for each individual, or one RTO for each company?

[The Akasha Colony]

As long as my anti-tank squad can (theoretically) wipe out an enemy tank company, I'm okay with using the Spike, like Immoren said.

Oh lord these NS benchmarks. Anyone remember the days when infantry were supposed to do infantry things and not be able to fight Fulda Gap single-handedly with a single battalion?

Couldn't I just fire them anyway?

Yes. They won't hit, but rain obviously does not physically impede you from pulling the trigger.

Also, if rain would be such a problem, what would you suggest? I'd like an anti-tank weapon I can use in any kind of weather.

The best anti-tank platforms that can be used in any weather is artillery and tanks.

[Immoren]

Company chief
Company 2ic
First sergeant/company sergeant major/quartermaster
Company forward observer commander
RTO for each above.

RTO for each individual, or one RTO for each company?

Individual

RPG-29
Moar RPG-32
MBT LAW
Spike-MR
SMAW
Metis-M
etc... :P

Predator-SRAW
Spike-SR
Spike-LR
Strix
CKEM
Spike-NLOS
Precision Attack Missile
Loitering Attack Missile
SADARM 5-inch
SADARM 8-inch
SADARM MLRS
MLRS TGSM
JSOW BAT
ATACMS BAT
Tomahawk BAT
LOCAAS Prompt Global Strike



NO TANK WILL BE SAFE. ANYWHERE. EVER.

I think we were talking about COys organic at assets.
Unless stand-off weapon strikes ordered by organic forward observer team(s) count as organic at assets. :-P

[Gridea]

Is one year of active duty really enough time for conscription? I'd imagine that training takes a whole shit ton of time, so would said year be after or during the training?

Also, how feasible would it be to have the police force of my nation comprised of the conscripts? I'd have it so that those who qualify for it and request that they be part of the "Enforcers" stay longer in conscription (2-3 years?) but enjoy benefits.

[The Akasha Colony]

Is one year of active duty really enough time for conscription? I'd imagine that training takes a whole shit ton of time, so would said year be after or during the training?

It should be enough time for basic specialties like infantry, which take only a few months of training after basic, leaving them with at least six months of duty left. The goal of conscription in peacetime is usually just to maintain a ready reserve to be called up to support the professional forces in wartime, so high-skill professions would be concentrated there.

[The Nuclear Fist]

Oh lord these NS benchmarks. Anyone remember the days when infantry were supposed to do infantry things and not be able to fight Fulda Gap single-handedly with a single battalion?

Considering what I'm regularly going up against, that may very well prove necessary. . .

Yes. They won't hit, but rain obviously does not physically impede you from pulling the trigger.

So there aren't any anti-tank weapons (barring artillery and tanks) that can operate in the rain?

[Immoren]

Is one year of active duty really enough time for conscription? I'd imagine that training takes a whole shit ton of time, so would said year be after or during the training?

Also, how feasible would it be to have the police force of my nation comprised of the conscripts? I'd have it so that those who qualify for it and request that they be part of the "Enforcers" stay longer in conscription (2-3 years?) but enjoy benefits.

Year is enough, especially if conscription is for creating lolreserves instead of standing army.

I would leave policing to professional police during peace time.

[The Nuclear Fist]

RTO for each individual, or one RTO for each company?

Individual

So I shouldn't have any medics at the company level, since I've already got them at the platoon level?

[The Kievan People]

Unless stand-off weapon strikes ordered by organic forward observer team(s) count as organic at assets. :-P

This is NS brah. All my weapons companies have an organic Peacekeeper missile.

[Immoren]

Oh lord these NS benchmarks. Anyone remember the days when infantry were supposed to do infantry things and not be able to fight Fulda Gap single-handedly with a single battalion?

Considering what I'm regularly going up against, that may very well prove necessary. . .

Yes. They won't hit, but rain obviously does not physically impede you from pulling the trigger.

So there aren't any anti-tank weapons (barring artillery and tanks) that can operate in the rain?

I'd think dumb rockets and recoilless rifles wouldn't care about rain.

[The Kievan People]

The correct answer OFC is MMW Strix and a battlefield surveillance radar.

[Immoren]

Individual

So I shouldn't have any medics at the company level, since I've already got them at the platoon level?

Of course there are medics at company level, but you asked about company HQ ;-)

[The Nuclear Fist]

So I shouldn't have any medics at the company level, since I've already got them at the platoon level?

Of course there are medics at company level, but you asked about company HQ ;-)

Wouldn't medics be attached to company HQ?

[The Nuclear Fist]

Considering what I'm regularly going up against, that may very well prove necessary. . .


So there aren't any anti-tank weapons (barring artillery and tanks) that can operate in the rain?

I'd think dumb rockets and recoilless rifles wouldn't care about rain.

So confusing. So company anti-tank squads should have a mix of recoilless rifles and Spike missiles? I mean, I maybe could just issue them the Spikes, since there are already 2 RPG-32s per squad.

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Here's my little submission; the Ravorn FB18 "Raider"

Originally designed as a fighter-bomber in 1971, the plane was beset by problems with control and stability in sharp maneuvers, eventually computing caught up and the MKIB was a frontline bomber in the 1983 Southern War which initially saw on the first three days of hostilies, good success againts Tarkanese emplacements but after the downing of 3 FB18s, they became reserved, only used when the airspace was secure. In 1995, the design was updated in the MkII which was 1t too heavy for the catapults and elevators of the Dresburg Class Carriers but saw service in land based naval squadrons and later on the Albatross Class Supercarriers. Mk III was designed alongside the MKII as a reconnaissance aircraft, still in service for monitoring EEZ violations. MkIV and MKV came into being in 1999 as a dedicated tactical bomber and a dual seater trainer craft respectfully. both necessitated a rebuilt forward fuselage for both new models with their two man crews. In 2008 the MkIIa saw a huge upgrade in MkVI which is intended for service for the Albatross subclass, the larger Consort Class, able to carry slightly heaveir munitions (750kg more) as well as a updated engine, giving 25 more knots of maximum airspeed and 39km extra range. Included with updated electronics, it is expected that the MkVI will gradually replace the MkII and MkIIA in frontline service by 2018 and be in service till 2030. In 2013, 52 MkVI Raiders were ordered by the Republic of Hayanba which saw service on the ASW Carrier Ryujin and in various Naval airbases on the coast.

General characteristics FB18 Mk II
Crew: 1
Length: 54 ft 1 in (16.48 m)
Wingspan: 33 ft 7 in (10.25 m)
Width: 24 ft (7.31 m) wings folded
Height: 16 ft 1 in (3.91 m) (not including landing gear)
Empty weight: 19,250 lb (8,950 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 47,300 lb (21,500 kg)
Powerplant: 1 × Beaufor GPJE431-A non-afterburning turbofan engine, 16,075 lbf (71.5 kN) thrust
Performance
Maximum speed: 675 kn (781 mph; 1,249 km/h) at Sea level
Range: 1,070 nmi; 1,231 mi (1,981 km) maximum internal fuel
Ferry range: 1,342 nmi; 1,544 mi (2,485 km) with maximum internal and external fuel
Take-off run: 1,950 ft (594.5 m) at 47,300 lb (21,500 kg) Without Catapult assist
Armament
Guns: 4× M213 18 mm (0.72 in) rotary cannon with 300 rounds each
Hardpoints: 6× under-wing and 2× fuselage pylon stations (Light missiles only) with a capacity of 15,000 lb (6,803.9 kg) total capacity,with provisions to carry combinations of:
Missiles:
4× AAM
or
2× ARM
or
2x Air launched torpedoes
or
2x 1500L drop tanks
or
4x laser-guided bombs
or
4xSmart depth charges

Other: 2x 1500L drop tanks

http://imageshack.us/a/img46/5981/xwsa.png

[The Akasha Colony]

So confusing. So company anti-tank squads should have a mix of recoilless rifles and Spike missiles? I mean, I maybe could just issue them the Spikes, since there are already 2 RPG-32s per squad.

PROTIP: You're not going to be able to make a magical super-squad that will perform perfectly under every conceivable condition. Rain will do the same thing to your enemy.