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The State of Czecho-Slovakia
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:11 pm

I have changed my MBT to the T-55. But what is wrong with the T-72 might I enquire?
edit: never mind...
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Postby New Tsavon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:14 pm

The Kievan People wrote:None of those nasty ciggies in the Kyivan military. Just safe, effective minor tranquilizers to calm the nerves. ;)

Heroin?

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That's uh.....certainly the most...interesting ration I have heard of here.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:18 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:Fleet Carrier Design

Displacement: 35,000 tonnes
Length: 752 Feet
Beam: 253 feet
Draught: 25 feet
Propulsion:
Speed: 28 Knots
Crew: 1,100 Crew, 450 Air Wing
Armaments: 4 CIWS
Air Craft: Maximum 40, standard complement 30

Comments? Very early WiP.

Since I got no comments...any help is appreciated.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:19 pm

New Tsavon wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:None of those nasty ciggies in the Kyivan military. Just safe, effective minor tranquilizers to calm the nerves. ;)

Heroin?

Probably booze.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:27 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Fleet Carrier Design

Displacement: 35,000 tonnes
Length: 752 Feet
Beam: 253 feet
Draught: 25 feet
Propulsion:
Speed: 28 Knots
Crew: 1,100 Crew, 450 Air Wing
Armaments: 4 CIWS
Air Craft: Maximum 40, standard complement 30

Comments? Very early WiP.

Since I got no comments...any help is appreciated.


28 knots seems slow for a carrier. It's also smaller dimensionally than an Essex.
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Postby Bhelyant » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:28 pm

The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:I have changed my MBT to the T-55. But what is wrong with the T-72 might I enquire?


I think the complaint was that you said T-72 instead of specifying an updated version. (not to imply that the T-72 doesn't have any flaws though)

What time period are you shooting for? And is it safe to assume you're limiting yourself to only Czech and Slovakian equipment?

With reference to going down from T-72s to T-55s, are you trying to code in a budget restraint or some other type of lore/restriction?
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:31 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:Since I got no comments...any help is appreciated.


28 knots seems slow for a carrier. It's also smaller dimensionally than an Essex.


OK I can up the speed, and its not supposed to be a super carrier, but more in line with a medium/fleet carrier.
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Postby Anemos Major » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:40 pm

The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:I have changed my MBT to the T-55. But what is wrong with the T-72 might I enquire?


Nothing's wrong with the T-72, though might I ask what level of military sophistication you're going for? It seems like a slightly aged version of the ČSLA.

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:41 pm

Turtles, with land mines on them.
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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:54 pm

The Kievan People wrote:Ur ruining the thread guis.

Your countries all suck and you should feel bad.


i agree galla is rly the only country worth talking about imo

this should just be called "galla is better than yours thread #4"
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:57 pm

Galla- wrote:
The Kievan People wrote:Ur ruining the thread guis.

Your countries all suck and you should feel bad.


i agree galla is rly the only country worth talking about imo

this should just be called "galla is better than yours thread #4"

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Postby Romberg » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:59 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:I have changed my MBT to the T-55. But what is wrong with the T-72 might I enquire?


Nothing's wrong with the T-72, though might I ask what level of military sophistication you're going for? It seems like a slightly aged version of the ČSLA.


If you're going MT, you're better off with the T-90 or the T-84, or the M-84, or the PT-91 if you want to use former Eastern Bloc stuff...

Especially the T-90 and PT-91, since they are improvements of the T-72. We've got some stored.
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The State of Czecho-Slovakia
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:59 pm

Bhelyant wrote:
The State of Czecho-Slovakia wrote:I'm remaking my MT Army Factbook. Here's what I've got so far:
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=the_state_of_czecho-slovakia/detail=factbook/id=144864

Any suggestions?


Are you trying to list *everything,* or just the stuff that's fun to talk about (like tanks = P ?) Your air defense looks a bit lacking, as do your logistics.

It's not quite finished yet. I'll go back up to the T-72. The variant I'll be using is the T-72M4 CZ. I'm trying to figure out what would have happened if Czechoslovakia had not broken up. I'm aiming for something along the lines of a modernized version of them in the 1980's.
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Postby Romberg » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:01 pm

So.. I'm assuming you're using the LET L-39? Or the modernized L-159 ALCA?
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:03 pm

Romberg wrote:So.. I'm assuming you're using the LET L-39? Or the modernized L-159 ALCA?

Russia sux /discussion
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Postby Chedastan » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:09 pm

80,000 personnel reasonable for a population of 7 million?

Also we use the T-72 as our MBT, and the AK-74M, M16A2 as our main assault rifles.
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Postby Registug » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:10 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Galla- wrote:
i agree galla is rly the only country worth talking about imo

this should just be called "galla is better than yours thread #4"

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:13 pm

Registug wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'm the coolest cuz kitsunes :3

Straya cunts


So, an Australia filled with kitsunes would trump you.

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Postby Anemos Major » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:14 pm

Romberg wrote:If you're going MT, you're better off with the T-90 or the T-84, or the M-84, or the PT-91 if you want to use former Eastern Bloc stuff...

Especially the T-90 and PT-91, since they are improvements of the T-72. We've got some stored.


Sure, but optimisation isn't the only path - not every nation is going to have the best, everywhere, all the time, and if you already have T-72s you can easily modernise them to the point where they can engage the tanks listed above without pawning off the national silverware.

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:15 pm

Registug wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:I'm the coolest cuz kitsunes :3

Straya cunts

Bit teh Kitsunes & nekos & yukki onna & the whatever the fuck I put in my factbook :c
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You bet your ass you will!
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Postby Romberg » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:16 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Romberg wrote:So.. I'm assuming you're using the LET L-39? Or the modernized L-159 ALCA?

Russia sux /discussion


The LET is Czech.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:18 pm

Romberg wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:Russia sux /discussion


The LET is Czech.

So? You mean to tell me that the Czech didn't "borrow" it's designs from Russia?

soviets sux /discussion
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Postby Romberg » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:19 pm

Actually it's one of the few foreign designs that made it IN the Russian air force.

/end of discussion
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Postby Bhelyant » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:24 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Romberg wrote:If you're going MT, you're better off with the T-90 or the T-84, or the M-84, or the PT-91 if you want to use former Eastern Bloc stuff...

Especially the T-90 and PT-91, since they are improvements of the T-72. We've got some stored.


Sure, but optimisation isn't the only path - not every nation is going to have the best, everywhere, all the time, and if you already have T-72s you can easily modernise them to the point where they can engage the tanks listed above without pawning off the national silverware.


Especially with how close they are to the T-72 to begin with...

Heck, the T-72 he plans on using may as well be called the PTM-90. = P

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Postby Anemos Major » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:27 pm

Romberg wrote:Actually it's one of the few foreign designs that made it IN the Russian air force.

/end of discussion


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