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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:33 am

Lolder wrote:If I had a formation of 10 soldiers, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

If I had a formation of 10 vehicles, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?

If I had a formation of 10 aircraft, how many support staff (logistical specialist, engineers, maintenance teams etc.) would they need?


Not to sure for vehicles, but when it comes to fighter aircraft, you want around 15-20 maintainers per aircraft, the number goes up as the aircraft get bigger. The current USAF runs at around 10 guys which is pretty bad, as you strain those few guys you have on a 24 hour, 7 day week schedule. However maintainers aren't attached to any aircraft, but to the AMU of the squadron. It also doesn't cover guys like supply, metal fabrication and the many officer jobs that are required.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:50 am

What is the earliest I could have a bustle autoloader like modern tanks do? I assume 69 is too far back, but what about 1982?
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:55 am

Fleet Carrier Design

Displacement: 35,000 tonnes
Length: 752 Feet
Beam: 253 feet
Draught: 25 feet
Propulsion:
Speed: 28 Knots
Crew: 1,100 Crew, 450 Air Wing
Armaments: 4 CIWS
Air Craft: Maximum 40, standard complement 30

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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:20 am

Purpelia wrote:What is the earliest I could have a bustle autoloader like modern tanks do? I assume 69 is too far back, but what about 1982?

I think you already asked.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:05 am

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Purpelia wrote:What is the earliest I could have a bustle autoloader like modern tanks do? I assume 69 is too far back, but what about 1982?

I think you already asked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-50
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-13

I might have. But than I got spooked and forgot people answered me already. Maybe.
Either way, what do you think of the tank design I posted on the last page? Need I repost?
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Postby Tule » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:16 am

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United Republics of Aralon wrote:That's why we have them in rations though not many. Smokers are also unlikely to catch a cold which is also handy,though reduced pulmonary function is not, so the habit is not encouraged in any form.

Try issuing nicotine in a different form.


Basically any delivery method apart from Cigarettes is not particularly harmful to your health, not even cigars or pipes since you are meant puff them, not inhale.
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:31 am

Tule wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Try issuing nicotine in a different form.


Basically any delivery method apart from Cigarettes is not particularly harmful to your health, not even cigars or pipes since you are meant puff them, not inhale.

Three water pipes issued at the platoon level? :lol:
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Postby Tule » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:39 am

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Tule wrote:
Basically any delivery method apart from Cigarettes is not particularly harmful to your health, not even cigars or pipes since you are meant puff them, not inhale.

Three water pipes issued at the platoon level? :lol:


Pipes are standard issue in the Tulean Armed Forces.

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Postby Kouralia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:44 am

Tule wrote:
United Republics of Aralon wrote:Three water pipes issued at the platoon level? :lol:


Pipes are standard issue in the Tulean Armed Forces.

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Postby Tule » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:49 am

Kouralia wrote:
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Pipes are standard issue in the Tulean Armed Forces.

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Officers only in Kouralia. Ranks have to buy their own. :p


Tulean Officers get cigars.
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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:05 pm

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No.

Put cigarettes in the rations.


Might that just corrupt the food? ;)


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Postby Immoren » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:42 pm

And obviously amount of daily allowance conscripts get equals to average prize of average cigarette pack.
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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 26, 2013 12:50 pm

Immoren wrote:And obviously amount of daily allowance conscripts get equals to average prize of average cigarette pack.


It's cheaper to use commercial brands in rations.
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Postby The State of Czecho-Slovakia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:24 pm

How many APC's would there be in a Soviet style mechanized infantry company?
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Postby New Tsavon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:38 pm

What would be a good WWI-era ration setup?

I'm currently issuing my soldiers, beans, salt pork, hardtack, coffee, and whiskey.
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Postby Krazakistan » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:39 pm

New Tsavon wrote:What would be a good WWI-era ration setup?

I'm currently issuing my soldiers, beans, salt pork, hardtack, coffee, and whiskey.


Throw in some cigarettes and some chocolate.
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:45 pm

Here is an upgraded version of the drawings for that tank. This time with a lot more love for the turret shape. Introduction date, August of 1969.
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:50 pm

New Tsavon wrote:What would be a good WWI-era ration setup?

I'm currently issuing my soldiers, beans, salt pork, hardtack, coffee, and whiskey.


this might help:

http://17thdivision.tripod.com/rationso ... e/id5.html

loads more stuff here if you are actually interested in the recipes of some of the various "delights".
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Postby Astholm » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:08 pm

This ties in with my RP thread here which is intended to be realistic; but is from the perspective of victims of war, rather than the military themselves.
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Postby New Tsavon » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:31 pm

Crookfur wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:What would be a good WWI-era ration setup?

I'm currently issuing my soldiers, beans, salt pork, hardtack, coffee, and whiskey.


this might help:

http://17thdivision.tripod.com/rationso ... e/id5.html

loads more stuff here if you are actually interested in the recipes of some of the various "delights".

Thanks for the link, that should help a lot.
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Postby The Kievan People » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:09 pm

United Republics of Aralon wrote:That's why we have them in rations though not many. Smokers are also unlikely to catch a cold which is also handy,though reduced pulmonary function is not, so the habit is not encouraged in any form.


WTF. Complete BS, and backwards.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1694990/
Smokers were at greater risk for developing colds than nonsmokers because smokers were more likely both to develop infections and to develop illness following infection


Drinking on the other hand is beneficial, apparently.

None of those nasty ciggies in the Kyivan military. Just safe, effective minor tranquilizers to calm the nerves. ;)
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Postby Registug » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:59 pm

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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:02 pm

The Purpelian army consists of mixed gender units. And soldiers are encouraged to think up their own non addictive ways to relieve stress.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:06 pm

Purpelia wrote:The Purpelian army consists of mixed gender units. And soldiers are encouraged to think up their own non addictive ways to relieve stress.


This, That and non front line, Non combat related personnel get Pot as they see fit.,
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