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A female Lord Protector? what to change?

Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:38 pm

This is an OOC question.

My nation is ruled by a Stratocracy. The head of state is called the Lord Protector and is elected every five years via popular vote of worthy citizens.

I intend to have a female LP at some point but not sure what to call her.

"Lord" is a high status male by definition. So I need a to replace the "Lord" part of the title (But I am keeping the "Protector" part) after a woman wins the election.

I want the name to have authority, leadership, and be feminine.

Any suggestions?

Possible ideas: Lady Protector, Madam Protector, Mistress Protector.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:39 pm

The queen of the united kingdom holds the title, Lord of Normandy.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:41 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:The queen of the united kingdom holds the title, Lord of Normandy.


The British Stratocracy isn't a monarchy (or a Republic). its a Stratocracy.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:42 pm

Lady Protector, or just stick with Lord Protector as Ostroeuropa suggested.
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Postby Benomia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:42 pm

This is in the complete wrong forum.
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:42 pm

Lady is the usual alternative for Lord, however Ostroeuropa's idea could also work.
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Postby Britcan » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:43 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:The queen of the united kingdom holds the title, Lord of Normandy.

Actually it's Duke of Normandy and that title is only used in the Channel Islands.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:43 pm

The British Stratocracy wrote:This is an OOC question.

General is not the OOC forum. General has nothing to do with roleplaying. Ask roleplay questions in roleplay forums. Moved.
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Postby Afalia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:43 pm

Well Dame or Baroness might work. But this is the wrong forum.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:45 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:Lady Protector, or just stick with Lord Protector as Ostroeuropa suggested.


Na, I really feel that "Lord" is a male term. And "Lady" just doesn't have the authoritarian sound to it (No offence to females everywhere).

It needs to sound strong.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:46 pm

Afalia wrote:Well Dame or Baroness might work. But this is the wrong forum.


Baroness Protector of the British Stratocracy


Could work.


Dame Protector doesn't sound as "Great leader" as baroness.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:47 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
The British Stratocracy wrote:This is an OOC question.

General is not the OOC forum. General has nothing to do with roleplaying. Ask roleplay questions in roleplay forums. Moved.



Fair enough, thanks for fixing it.
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:48 pm

The British Stratocracy wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Lady Protector, or just stick with Lord Protector as Ostroeuropa suggested.


Na, I really feel that "Lord" is a male term. And "Lady" just doesn't have the authoritarian sound to it (No offence to females everywhere).

It needs to sound strong.

Lady is the feminine form of Lord, why not Dame? Dame Protector has nice ring to it, or Madame-Protector.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:48 pm

Mater Protector?
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:49 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
The British Stratocracy wrote:
Na, I really feel that "Lord" is a male term. And "Lady" just doesn't have the authoritarian sound to it (No offence to females everywhere).

It needs to sound strong.

Lady is the feminine form of Lord, why not Dame? Dame Protector has nice ring to it, or Madame-Protector.


Now that I'm saying it out loud it does sound ok

but still I can't help but feel there is a better feminine title
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:52 pm

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Postby Steampunk Mars » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:52 pm

Lady Protectress, surely.

Also, doesn't need bumping. It's at the top of the first page of F&NI.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:54 pm

Steampunk Mars wrote:Lady Protectress, surely.

Also, doesn't need bumping. It's at the top of the first page of F&NI.


Lady Protectress, sounds reasonable. Is Protectress a word? never heard it before.
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Postby Brythonica » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:55 pm

Brythonica's head of state is titled Lord President. We had a female Lord President, Hilda Roberts, from 1983–1990. We didn't change the title for her (by her request actually).
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Postby Kylarnatia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:56 pm

The British Stratocracy wrote:Mater Protector?


Mater, as I'm sure you know, means 'Mother' in Latin. Therefore, 'Mother Protector' really doesn't flow, at least, in my opinion.

And try not to bump a thread too often, or too soon (it's best to wait 24-48 hours before bumping a thread), otherwise it counts as spamming. ;)

I really don't see what the problem is with 'Lord Protector', to be honest. technically, it would just act as one of those awkward conventions - just like the Queens of Egypt had to be called 'Pharaohs' (which was a male title), it isn't stupid or illogical to have a female leader take on a male title, because it follows standard convention. It definitely works if your nation has a strict culture.
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Postby Brythonica » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:57 pm

Britcan wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The queen of the united kingdom holds the title, Lord of Normandy.

Actually it's Duke of Normandy and that title is only used in the Channel Islands.

No, but she is titled the Lord of Mann (Isle of Man).
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Postby Auzkhia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:57 pm

Actually Lady-Protectress or Dame Protectress are the perfect feminine forms.
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Postby Steampunk Mars » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:58 pm

Yes, it's a word. In these enlightened times, we're not allowed to use feminine forms of words like "Protector" because to some ears they sound diminutive. But "Tiger - Tigress", "Emperor - Empress", therefore...
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Postby Nu Sparta » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:05 pm

What about Mother Protector? It corresponds from your matriarchal paganism based religion. What better way for the first woman in power of a highly militaristic nation to say "I'm in control, I'm strong" then to align herself with the main deity of the nation.
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Postby The British Stratocracy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:06 pm

Kylarnatia wrote:
The British Stratocracy wrote:Mater Protector?


Mater, as I'm sure you know, means 'Mother' in Latin. Therefore, 'Mother Protector' really doesn't flow, at least, in my opinion.

And try not to bump a thread too often, or too soon (it's best to wait 24-48 hours before bumping a thread), otherwise it counts as spamming. ;)

I really don't see what the problem is with 'Lord Protector', to be honest. technically, it would just act as one of those awkward conventions - just like the Queens of Egypt had to be called 'Pharaohs' (which was a male title), it isn't stupid or illogical to have a female leader take on a male title, because it follows standard convention. It definitely works if your nation has a strict culture.



Men and women share total equality in the Militarist Union. But female holders of public office feminize their titles to signify their gender. It a matter of pride for them, as they see having male titles as unrepresentative of themselves.

For example, female members of the Imperator council are called Imperatrix.
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It opposes Far leftism, ethic nationalism, anarchy, and totalitarianism
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