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Postby Galla- » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:00 pm

Tule wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
I think every single one of the items on that list predate the 1970s, for that matter :P


I said and firearms innovations post-1970 in general.


You said "bullpups and", not "bullpups, and".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:08 pm

Galla- wrote:
Tule wrote:
I said and firearms innovations post-1970 in general.


You said "bullpups and", not "bullpups, and".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

I still remember when I was taught that putting a comma after an and was "incorrect".
Heh.

We English can't even teach our own language.
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Postby Galla- » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:10 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Galla- wrote:
You said "bullpups and", not "bullpups, and".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma

I still remember when I was taught that putting a comma after an and was "incorrect".
Heh.

We English can't even teach our own language.


Sorry I speak American.
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Postby Tule » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:11 pm

Galla- wrote:
Tule wrote:
I said and firearms innovations post-1970 in general.


You said "bullpups and", not "bullpups, and".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma


I forgot the comma. It happens.
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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:11 pm

Galla- wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I still remember when I was taught that putting a comma after an and was "incorrect".
Heh.

We English can't even teach our own language.


Sorry I speak American.

The proper spelling is 'murrican.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:16 pm

*is having difficulty refraining from designing a caseless, railed bullpup from the 19th century*
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Postby Atakan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:34 pm

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Found the CoD player.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:40 pm

14.5 or 15mm Smoothbore cannon firing .50 or .40 Calliber APDSFS Rounds. I can't think of what it won't kill besides a tank.
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Postby Sevvania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:41 pm

Atakan wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Found the CoD player.

not cod player :D im killzone player :D

Call of Duty invented the FAL, MP5, and AK-74.*
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:48 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:14.5 or 15mm Smoothbore cannon firing .50 or .40 Calliber APDSFS Rounds. I can't think of what it won't kill besides a tank.


A modern IFV.
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Postby Galla- » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:50 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:*is having difficulty refraining from designing a caseless, railed bullpup from the 19th century*


Rails didn't exist.

Other than that, you'll just end up with a Thorneycroft and paper cartridges.
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Besides: Most posters in this thread are Americans, and others who are non-Americans have no problems co-existing so shut that trap...

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:51 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:14.5 or 15mm Smoothbore cannon firing .50 or .40 Calliber APDSFS Rounds. I can't think of what it won't kill besides a tank.


A modern IFV.


Can withstand up to 14.5 FMJ, not Darts
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Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
Yes, I Am infact Biop.


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Postby Crookfur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:52 pm

Galla- wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:*is having difficulty refraining from designing a caseless, railed bullpup from the 19th century*


Rails didn't exist.

Other than that, you'll just end up with a Thorneycroft and paper cartridges.


bullpup volcanic FTW!
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Postby Crookfur » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:53 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
A modern IFV.


Can withstand up to 14.5 FMJ, not Darts


In some cases can resist or stop 30mm APDS or APFSDS.

Why else would there so much concern about feilding big ass 35-57mm APFSDS rounds.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:55 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Can withstand up to 14.5 FMJ, not Darts


In some cases can resist or stop 30mm APDS or APFSDS.

Why else would there so much concern about feilding big ass 35-57mm APFSDS rounds.


To compensate?
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Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
Yes, I Am infact Biop.


Rest in Peace Riley. Biopan Embassy Non Military Realism Thread
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:01 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
A modern IFV.


Can withstand up to 14.5 FMJ, not Darts


Modern IFVs are usually armored against 14.5 mm AP rounds, which includes SLAP-type rounds plus SAPHEI Raufoss-types. It's really nothing new.

This is to say nothing of frontal protection against 30+ mm APFSDS rounds.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:03 pm

Galla- wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:*is having difficulty refraining from designing a caseless, railed bullpup from the 19th century*


Rails didn't exist.

Other than that, you'll just end up with a Thorneycroft and paper cartridges.


Not yet they don't. I shall change all that, just you wait and see.

More like a bullpuped automatic pistol firing semicaseless rounds.

Crookfur wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Rails didn't exist.

Other than that, you'll just end up with a Thorneycroft and paper cartridges.


bullpup volcanic FTW!


You, good sir, are a genius. :p

Crookfur wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Can withstand up to 14.5 FMJ, not Darts


In some cases can resist or stop 30mm APDS or APFSDS.

Why else would there so much concern about feilding big ass 35-57mm APFSDS rounds.


This. Most modern IFVs are being armoured to at least this level.
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Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Galla- » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:17 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Galla- wrote:
Rails didn't exist.

Other than that, you'll just end up with a Thorneycroft and paper cartridges.


bullpup volcanic FTW!


I forgot about Volcanic.

Yes.

Steampunk gyrojet go.
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Postby Black Hand » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:20 pm

So got bored the other day and decided On making an Emplaced Anti-Armor/Anti-personal Weapon What do you all think about a belt fed 40mm hydra 70 Rocket MG? I figure a fire rate of around 450 RPm or so. it would Still be a open ended tube and likely Electrically fed.
If this turns out to be impossible would it be feasible To simply mount Hydra 70 pods on a simple mount?
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:21 pm

Black Hand wrote:So got bored the other day and decided On making an Emplaced Anti-Armor/Anti-personal Weapon What do you all think about a belt fed 40mm hydra 70 Rocket MG? I figure a fire rate of around 450 RPm or so.
If this turns out to be impossible would it be feasible To simply mount Hydra 70 pods on a simple mount?


Not really a Hydra 70 if it's 40 mm, is it?
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Postby Black Hand » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:22 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Black Hand wrote:So got bored the other day and decided On making an Emplaced Anti-Armor/Anti-personal Weapon What do you all think about a belt fed 40mm hydra 70 Rocket MG? I figure a fire rate of around 450 RPm or so.
If this turns out to be impossible would it be feasible To simply mount Hydra 70 pods on a simple mount?


Not really a Hydra 70 if it's 40 mm, is it?

oops, I edited Only part of that......... scrap the 40mm bit.
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Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?

Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?

San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:31 pm

Black Hand wrote:So got bored the other day and decided On making an Emplaced Anti-Armor/Anti-personal Weapon What do you all think about a belt fed 40mm hydra 70 Rocket MG? I figure a fire rate of around 450 RPm or so. it would Still be a open ended tube and likely Electrically fed.
If this turns out to be impossible would it be feasible To simply mount Hydra 70 pods on a simple mount?


CRV7 rockets. Google them, look for the proposed infantry versions.

60mm Metal Storm mortars are cooler, though.
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Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Black Hand » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:38 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Black Hand wrote:So got bored the other day and decided On making an Emplaced Anti-Armor/Anti-personal Weapon What do you all think about a belt fed 40mm hydra 70 Rocket MG? I figure a fire rate of around 450 RPm or so. it would Still be a open ended tube and likely Electrically fed.
If this turns out to be impossible would it be feasible To simply mount Hydra 70 pods on a simple mount?


CRV7 rockets. Google them, look for the proposed infantry versions.

60mm Metal Storm mortars are cooler, though.

I have come to the conclusion that the CRV7 is badass.... So guys beltfed CRV7 Launcher? would this work?
I haven't gotten an answer regarding the actual practicality, if it doesn't could I just mount a 6 barreled tube and use it that way?
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Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?

Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?

San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:01 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
CRV7 rockets. Google them, look for the proposed infantry versions.

60mm Metal Storm mortars are cooler, though.

I have come to the conclusion that the CRV7 is badass.... So guys beltfed CRV7 Launcher? would this work?
I haven't gotten an answer regarding the actual practicality, if it doesn't could I just mount a 6 barreled tube and use it that way?


Look at the length and weight of the missile.

Now picture how big a machine gun firing it would need to be.

Now do the smart thing and use a six round pod.
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Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Postby Black Hand » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:09 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Black Hand wrote:I have come to the conclusion that the CRV7 is badass.... So guys beltfed CRV7 Launcher? would this work?
I haven't gotten an answer regarding the actual practicality, if it doesn't could I just mount a 6 barreled tube and use it that way?


Look at the length and weight of the missile.

Now picture how big a machine gun firing it would need to be.

Now do the smart thing and use a six round pod.

But....But...Okay :(
I see your point, And besides a 6 round launcher is more than enough, figure 2 rounds each of the AT Flechette, flechette and HE.
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Fordorsia wrote:Sight rib? Like a barbecue?

Fordorsia wrote:Why sell the restored weapons when you can keep them in a military-themed sex dungeon?

San-Silvacian wrote:Nothing says I love you like a fine Belgian firearm.

Bezombia wrote: "glorious discharge"

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