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Postby Puzikas » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:51 am

New Tsavon wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Going to Russia come the 10th, will be back on the 15th.
Probably won't post till then.
Try not to get the thread killed guys. With any luck I'll get my hands on an AK-12.

Oh, cool.

Will you be able to take and post pics?


Possibly. The trip is more of a family affair, but I'm swinging by my old home to see old friends before I attend to the family matter. Last time I went to Russia (Feb. 2012) I did some shooting, with luck I'll be good for this one too.
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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:54 am

Puzikas wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:Oh, cool.

Will you be able to take and post pics?


Possibly. The trip is more of a family affair, but I'm swinging by my old home to see old friends before I attend to the family matter. Last time I went to Russia (Feb. 2012) I did some shooting, with luck I'll be good for this one too.

Well, good luck on your trip.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:55 am

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New Tsavon wrote:To be honest, I hope both him and Beano don't return, the thread is much nicer without the two of them.


I'd consider them generally ok peeps except when they cross paths...

Corda has his less savoury moments with or without Beano around though I have begun to take to the opinion that Beano is actually trolling by now.
I've given him more chances and opportunities than I'd like and far too much of my patience, frankly.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:58 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Graznovia wrote:
I'd consider them generally ok peeps except when they cross paths...

Corda has his less savoury moments with or without Beano around though I have begun to take to the opinion that Beano is actually trolling by now.
I've given him more chances and opportunities than I'd like and far too much of my patience, frankly.



Is of Main Military Weapon thread, not Most Mentioned Gossip thread. ;)

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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:00 am

Spreewerke wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Corda has his less savoury moments with or without Beano around though I have begun to take to the opinion that Beano is actually trolling by now.
I've given him more chances and opportunities than I'd like and far too much of my patience, frankly.



Is of Main Military Weapon thread, not Most Mentioned Gossip thread. ;)

Really?

Who'd have known.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:06 am

Let us not put thoughts to such...thoughts.

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Postby Anemos Major » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:11 am

Image

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.

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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:14 am

Nothing to see here.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:36 am

Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.

You know, were it not for the bullet bandolier around the stock, this would be acceptable.
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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:44 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.

You know, were it not for the bullet bandolier around the stock, this would be acceptable.

I guess, although I prefer wooden furniture.

The scope is alright though, and at least they didn't add rails or something.
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Postby Sevvania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:45 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.

You know, were it not for the bullet bandolier around the stock, this would be acceptable.

How is an ammo sleeve a bad thing?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:46 am

New Tsavon wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:You know, were it not for the bullet bandolier around the stock, this would be acceptable.

I guess, although I prefer wooden furniture.

The scope is alright though, and at least they didn't add rails or something.

Exactly. It is neither lul nor horrific.
And is therefore acceptable.
Sevvania wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:You know, were it not for the bullet bandolier around the stock, this would be acceptable.

How is an ammo sleeve a bad thing?

Purely as an aesthetic addition to the weapon. If it had been left with original furniture, it'd be fine.

This is skirting so finely along the line of being a "tactical" weapon that it's scary.
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Postby Sevvania » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:47 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:I guess, although I prefer wooden furniture.

The scope is alright though, and at least they didn't add rails or something.

Exactly. It is neither lul nor horrific.
And is therefore acceptable.
Sevvania wrote:How is an ammo sleeve a bad thing?

Purely as an aesthetic addition to the weapon. If it had been left with original furniture, it'd be fine.

This is skirting so finely along the line of being a "tactical" weapon that it's scary.

I wouldn't call it tactical. It's just modernized.
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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:53 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
New Tsavon wrote:I guess, although I prefer wooden furniture.

The scope is alright though, and at least they didn't add rails or something.

Exactly. It is neither lul nor horrific.

And is therefore acceptable.

Yeah, I redact my previous statements on it being heretical and such. And, being an Enfield, it is still quite a good-looking rifle.

I mean, its not one of those horrific TAPCO-ed Mosins you see from time to time. Those, those, are the enemy!
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Postby Fischermann » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:57 am

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HTd-3 MAR, now with %60 more rails.
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Postby Graznovia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:13 am

Was actually watching a 18/05/2013 video on Spetsnaz and among other things (such as HK416s and MP5SDs) I noticed the use of translucent magazines with their AK-74Ms and also some sort of PKP variant with a more conventional carrying handle (it looks to be fold-down or otherwise detachable as opposed to the full length fixed carrying handle on the original PKP) plus a foregrip.

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:16 am

Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.



Am I the only one in this thread who isn't against modernizing rifles?
Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Postby New Tsavon » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:17 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.



Am I the only one in this thread who isn't against modernizing rifles?

Probably.

I'm for limited modernization. But no fucking rails on anything made before 1990 AD. Or PCAPs, those are just as bad.
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Postby Sau Beiu » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:26 am

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Manufacturer: URAS
Model: 1908
Type: Repeating rifle
Designer: Alexandr Szkvr
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:37 am

New Tsavon wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:

Am I the only one in this thread who isn't against modernizing rifles?

Probably.

I'm for limited modernization. But no fucking rails on anything made before 1990 AD. Or PCAPs, those are just as bad.


You mean the rifles used by many armies today, like the L85, M16, AUG and the FAMAS? These all use rails and were made before 1990.

There's nothing bad about rails. They help, and from what I see, putting them on a weapon comes with no disadvantage.
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Pro: Swords
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San-Silvacian wrote:Forgot to take off my Rhodie shorts when I went to sleep.
Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Fischermann » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:51 am

Fordorsia wrote:Let us not put thoughts to such...thoughts.

Here, have some ugly
(Image)


>evans

>ugly
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Postby Purpelia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:02 am

Random question time. Except not so random this time round. I know that blow-forward is unreliable and generally bad for a firearm, especially one firing a powerful round. My question is how do I make it even worse?
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Postby Kouralia » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:03 am

New Tsavon wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:

Am I the only one in this thread who isn't against modernizing rifles?

Probably.

I'm for limited modernization. But no fucking rails on anything made before 1990 AD. Or PCAPs, those are just as bad.

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Postby Puzikas » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:09 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

*This* is ugly. This is the enemy.



Am I the only one in this thread who isn't against modernizing rifles?



There is a fine line between "modernizing", "sporterizing", and "ruining".

If I were to take, say, a M91 Mosin (not a 91/30 but an actual 91) and give it a synthetic stock but keep that wooden stock, then i'm two fold modernizing and sporterizing it.

If I were to cut down the rifles barrel and give it some rails, and a new stock, im ruining it, while modernizing it and sporterizing it.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:09 am

Graznovia wrote:Was actually watching a 18/05/2013 video on Spetsnaz and among other things (such as HK416s and MP5SDs) I noticed the use of translucent magazines with their AK-74Ms and also some sort of PKP variant with a more conventional carrying handle (it looks to be fold-down or otherwise detachable as opposed to the full length fixed carrying handle on the original PKP) plus a foregrip.



Do you have a link to this video?

Your "PKP" variant also sounds like a PKM.

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