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Postby Bezombia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:56 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
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Psychological terror?

M2A1 with a loudener.

Is there a point? .50 BMG makes people shit themselves if they ambushed a convoy that had lots of those.


Loudener makes it sound like a Vulcan, but Vulcans are even less practical squad-level weapons than Flamethrower
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:57 pm

Bezombia wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Is there a point? .50 BMG makes people shit themselves if they ambushed a convoy that had lots of those.


Loudener makes it sound like a Vulcan, but Vulcans are even less practical squad-level weapons than Flamethrower

M2s aren't even meant for squad-level!

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Postby San-Silvacian » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:58 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:then the guy gets shot in the pack containing all the fuel and goes up.

I'd suggest walking Wind Talkers to see just how nasty that gets.


What is it with you and the kill joys?


And yes. But you can't beat that portable wall of fire for Psych out.


What beats a small wall of fire?

a guy with a bolt-action rifle.

flame throwers had, if I remember correctly, a 2 week lifespan in ww2, though that might be BAR gunners. Still they had a very short lifespan because its an easy target that typically advances in front of the main force.

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Psychological terror?

M2A1 with a loudener.

Is there a point? .50 BMG makes people shit themselves if they ambushed a convoy that had lots of those.


maybe if your a poor country that only uses Toyotas for convoys.

however unless your attack hummers a US convoy is most likely just going to speed by, giving your location to a artillery or air support group to literally rape you.
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:58 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Purpelia wrote:To be fair flamethrowers would probably be a good thing to have around for when you run into NBC contaminated tiberium mutants that you need to burn after killing.


Or for general Ford antics.

Roast your foes, roast dinner. It's an all purpose tool.
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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:59 pm

Bezombia wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Is there a point? .50 BMG makes people shit themselves if they ambushed a convoy that had lots of those.


Loudener makes it sound like a Vulcan, but Vulcans are even less practical squad-level weapons than Flamethrower


There's a difference between impractical and impossible.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:59 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Loudener makes it sound like a Vulcan, but Vulcans are even less practical squad-level weapons than Flamethrower

M2s aren't even meant for squad-level!


As Inclined as I am to agree with you I have...3? Battalions I believe, made completely up of Juggernaut class troops that carry vehicle mounted weapons
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:01 pm

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DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Supposing I had a shotgun and I needed to fire a bullet out it. Do not ask why. Could I make a sabot that stays in the shell even after being fired? ( read a sabot integral with the shell ) ?

...what?

You could already...um...er...you could use slugs in shotguns.


I need to fire a certain bullet out of it. Can the sabot be ejected together with the shell?
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:01 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:M2s aren't even meant for squad-level!


As Inclined as I am to agree with you I have...3? Battalions I believe, made completely up of Juggernaut class troops that carry vehicle mounted weapons


what would those be

sauce / pix?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:02 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:...what?

You could already...um...er...you could use slugs in shotguns.


I need to fire a certain bullet out of it. Can the sabot be ejected together with the shell?


Then get a rifle to fire it.


And No. The Sabot stays with the bullet
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Postby San-Silvacian » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:02 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:...what?

You could already...um...er...you could use slugs in shotguns.


I need to fire a certain bullet out of it. Can the sabot be ejected together with the shell?


you have slugs

use them

want bullets? use a rifle with an underslung shottie.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:03 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
As Inclined as I am to agree with you I have...3? Battalions I believe, made completely up of Juggernaut class troops that carry vehicle mounted weapons


what would those be

sauce / pix?


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Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
Yes, I Am infact Biop.


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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:03 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:...what?

You could already...um...er...you could use slugs in shotguns.


I need to fire a certain bullet out of it. Can the sabot be ejected together with the shell?


What kind of certain bullet?

The answer is still probably going to be no (because, you know, you need the sabot to seal the bore and prevent the projectile from dancing around inside the barrel), but it can't hurt to ask.
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Postby Bezombia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:04 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Loudener makes it sound like a Vulcan, but Vulcans are even less practical squad-level weapons than Flamethrower

M2s aren't even meant for squad-level!


Touche.

Anyway, I'm going back to trying to design the M57. Some of you may remember the last time I tried...

...anyway, I've worked out some of the details now. It will be based on the XM79 prototype of Benomian origin circa 1981, which was in turn based on a heavily modified T44 prototype, of american origin.
That means nothing to you people. Will come up with specs and a pic later.
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Postby United states of brazilian nations » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:05 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
What is it with you and the kill joys?


And yes. But you can't beat that portable wall of fire for Psych out.


What beats a small wall of fire?

a guy with a bolt-action rifle.

flame throwers had, if I remember correctly, a 2 week lifespan in ww2, though that might be BAR gunners. Still they had a very short lifespan because its an easy target that typically advances in front of the main force.


and also, if you see an enemy division. one of the guys is wielding a flamethrower. who are you going to shoot first?
the guy with the flamethrower, obviously. hit the fuel tank and watch all his friends around him burn.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:08 pm

United states of brazilian nations wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
What beats a small wall of fire?

a guy with a bolt-action rifle.

flame throwers had, if I remember correctly, a 2 week lifespan in ww2, though that might be BAR gunners. Still they had a very short lifespan because its an easy target that typically advances in front of the main force.


and also, if you see an enemy division. one of the guys is wielding a flamethrower. who are you going to shoot first?
the guy with the flamethrower, obviously. hit the fuel tank and watch all his friends around him burn.


Unless of course they are wrapped in PA. Besides how many long ranged snipers are involved in Indore combat? Building to building is the only semi logical use for these
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Immoren wrote:Saphirasia and his ICBCPs (inter continental ballistic cattle prod)
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Postby San-Silvacian » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:09 pm

United states of brazilian nations wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
What beats a small wall of fire?

a guy with a bolt-action rifle.

flame throwers had, if I remember correctly, a 2 week lifespan in ww2, though that might be BAR gunners. Still they had a very short lifespan because its an easy target that typically advances in front of the main force.


and also, if you see an enemy division. one of the guys is wielding a flamethrower. who are you going to shoot first?
the guy with the flamethrower, obviously. hit the fuel tank and watch all his friends around him burn.


this guy knows

though it wouldn't be a division, a flame thrower would be assigned to a heavy weapons company i think

still silly and has been replaced with themobaric rockets for a reason.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:11 pm

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and also, if you see an enemy division. one of the guys is wielding a flamethrower. who are you going to shoot first?
the guy with the flamethrower, obviously. hit the fuel tank and watch all his friends around him burn.


this guy knows

though it wouldn't be a division, a flame thrower would be assigned to a heavy weapons company i think

still silly and has been replaced with themobaric rockets for a reason.

want dakka? M202A1 FLASH.


A1? Did they make an A2? And who is gonna use a Thermalberic weapon Indore? Or against a Bush
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Postby Purpelia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:12 pm

We are still talking about the guy that is basically NOD right? I think it would make perfect sense for him to have each platoon be issued with a flamethrower attached for burning any contaminated stuff that comes out of a bordering red zone.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:14 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
this guy knows

though it wouldn't be a division, a flame thrower would be assigned to a heavy weapons company i think

still silly and has been replaced with themobaric rockets for a reason.

want dakka? M202A1 FLASH.


A1? Did they make an A2? And who is gonna use a Thermalberic weapon Indore? Or against a Bush


Who is going to use a flamethrower indoors? An idiot.

Indoors use a shottie or whatever. Against a bush you still launch rockets at.
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Postby Sevvania » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:19 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:then the guy gets shot in the pack containing all the fuel and goes up.

I'd suggest walking Wind Talkers to see just how nasty that gets.

If I remember correctly, the "flamethrower fuel tanks always explode when shot" concept is highly exaggerated. Getting shot in one of the tanks could knock you forward as high-pressure gas vented, but bullets tend to not ignite fuels when fired into them. Incendiary rounds, perhaps.
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Postby Premislyd » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:19 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
A1? Did they make an A2? And who is gonna use a Thermalberic weapon Indore? Or against a Bush


Who is going to use a flamethrower indoors? An idiot.

Indoors use a shottie or whatever. Against a bush you still launch rockets at.


You shoot the FLASH at the building rather than entering it.

Even though the building should've been leveled by artillery to begin with...
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Postby Bezombia » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:20 pm

Premislyd wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
You shoot the FLASH at the building rather than entering it.

Even though the building should've been leveled by artillery to begin with...
Who is going to use a flamethrower indoors? An idiot.

Indoors use a shottie or whatever. Against a bush you still launch rockets at.


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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:22 pm

Sevvania wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:then the guy gets shot in the pack containing all the fuel and goes up.

I'd suggest walking Wind Talkers to see just how nasty that gets.

If I remember correctly, the "flamethrower fuel tanks always explode when shot" concept is highly exaggerated. Getting shot in one of the tanks could knock you forward as high-pressure gas vented, but bullets tend to not ignite fuels when fired into them. Incendiary rounds, perhaps.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:22 pm

Sevvania wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:then the guy gets shot in the pack containing all the fuel and goes up.

I'd suggest walking Wind Talkers to see just how nasty that gets.

If I remember correctly, the "flamethrower fuel tanks always explode when shot" concept is highly exaggerated. Getting shot in one of the tanks could knock you forward as high-pressure gas vented, but bullets tend to not ignite fuels when fired into them. Incendiary rounds, perhaps.


You still get knocked down and have to take it off.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:23 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Sevvania wrote:If I remember correctly, the "flamethrower fuel tanks always explode when shot" concept is highly exaggerated. Getting shot in one of the tanks could knock you forward as high-pressure gas vented, but bullets tend to not ignite fuels when fired into them. Incendiary rounds, perhaps.


You still get knocked down and have to take it off.


YOu have to take it off after 10 seconds anyway. And you can get knocked down by simply tripping. I'm not seeing your point
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