Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Revision 11

[Fordorsia]

Show me the reference picture.

Can't seem to find it now.
AK-12 doesn't seem to have it either, but I'll put it on anyway

The AK12's cover release is on the side next to the fire selector.

Do you at least know what rifle was on the reference picture?


Fordorsians laugh at 460 smallness

[Bezombia]

Can't seem to find it now.
AK-12 doesn't seem to have it either, but I'll put it on anyway

The AK12's cover release is on the side next to the fire selector.

Do you at least know what rifle was on the reference picture?

It was either a Type-III or a Galil of some sort.

[Fordorsia]

The AK12's cover release is on the side next to the fire selector.

Do you at least know what rifle was on the reference picture?

It was either a Type-III or a Galil of some sort.

They both have them too.

[Bezombia]

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Does full-auto or burst-fire capability by itself negatively impact accuracy? ( in the general sense, e.g. as in: in SA mode a gun that can only shoot in SA will be more accurate than a gun also firing in SA but that can also fire in FA )?

What, in terms of altering the bullet's flight path or just in terms of recoil?

If you mean the first option, then I have no idea. I doubt it though.

I'm thinking of retaining some sort of multiple rounds per trigger pull firing mode in my DMRs ( which will be based on my FA/burst capable service rifle ), whether it be 2 or 3 round burst or reduced RPM full auto. I'm thinking why not? Assuming there was no technical disadvantage, such as a negative impact on accuracy and assuming that soldiers would only fire as directed ( not uselessly wasting ammo firing FA at long ranges for example ), retaining those capabilities would be nice in emergency situations or for more effective smaller range engagements assuming the designated marksman has nothing to snipe at.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Does full-auto or burst-fire capability by itself negatively impact accuracy? ( in the general sense, e.g. as in: in SA mode a gun that can only shoot in SA will be more accurate than a gun also firing in SA but that can also fire in FA )?

If you don't train your men properly in terms of firing full-auto, then you're going to see them spray under fire and that wastes bullets. The US put burst on its M16A2s to conserve ammo but it seems they're going back to full-auto capable weapons with the M4A1 as general issue in the Army. They still have to train their servicemen how to shoot full-auto no matter what.

Marines standard-issue M16A4s but officers and other special roles get the M4 too. Point applies.

Would not be an issue, training and discipline are high.

[Strathdonia]

Does full-auto or burst-fire capability by itself negatively impact accuracy? ( in the general sense, e.g. as in: in SA mode a gun that can only shoot in SA will be more accurate than a gun also firing in SA but that can also fire in FA )?

if actions construction and ammunition are all the same then no the addition of a select fire option wont imapct a rifle's accuracy unless you seriously bugger the trigger in the process.


in short a select fire rifle will normally fire just as accuratly as asemi auto only rifle in semi automatic mode.


edit: what you might wan tto consider is a gas shutoff mechanism (present on most gas operated self loaders but you mgith wan tto make it eaiser to operate) that turns the rifle into a straight pull bolt action. in some firearms turnign off the gas system does a lot to help recude felt recoil and eliminates the effects of the mechanism movement.

[The Republic of Lanos]

If you don't train your men properly in terms of firing full-auto, then you're going to see them spray under fire and that wastes bullets. The US put burst on its M16A2s to conserve ammo but it seems they're going back to full-auto capable weapons with the M4A1 as general issue in the Army. They still have to train their servicemen how to shoot full-auto no matter what.

Marines standard-issue M16A4s but officers and other special roles get the M4 too. Point applies.

Would not be an issue, training and discipline are high.

So...your problem relates to the firearm itself?

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

You should consider a gasblock similar to this for reasons.

http://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2 ... sembly.jpg

[Black Hand]

4/10 would use once.
lacks receiver cover tab And Gasblock

Receiver cover tab?
Also let me know when you find the gas block.

It doesn't appear to have one, nor a gas tube lever.... have fun changing the gas tube.
EDIT: oh Galil.... NVM

[The Akasha Colony]

Does full-auto or burst-fire capability by itself negatively impact accuracy? ( in the general sense, e.g. as in: in SA mode a gun that can only shoot in SA will be more accurate than a gun also firing in SA but that can also fire in FA )?

AFAIK, no, not to any noticeable degree. Usually it's the switch from bolt action to semi-automatic that affects accuracy since now you add movement to the action during firing, whereas a bolt action weapon is not cycled until well after firing when the operator manually loads the next round.

[Bezombia]

You should consider a gasblock similar to this for reasons.

http://strikehold.files.wordpress.com/2 ... sembly.jpg

Is mine insufficient?

[Purpelia]

Does full-auto or burst-fire capability by itself negatively impact accuracy? ( in the general sense, e.g. as in: in SA mode a gun that can only shoot in SA will be more accurate than a gun also firing in SA but that can also fire in FA )?

AFAIK, no, not to any noticeable degree. Usually it's the switch from bolt action to semi-automatic that affects accuracy since now you add movement to the action during firing, whereas a bolt action weapon is not cycled until well after firing when the operator manually loads the next round.

So if I were to find a way to delay the action moving until after the projectile leaves the barrel I could get BA grade accuracy out of a semi-auto weapon?

[Black Hand]

AFAIK, no, not to any noticeable degree. Usually it's the switch from bolt action to semi-automatic that affects accuracy since now you add movement to the action during firing, whereas a bolt action weapon is not cycled until well after firing when the operator manually loads the next round.

So if I were to find a way to delay the action moving until after the projectile leaves the barrel I could get BA grade accuracy out of a semi-auto weapon?

Theoretically yes. However it would be difficult IIRC that's sort of what the AN-94 is supposed to do in 2rnd burst.

[Strathdonia]

AFAIK, no, not to any noticeable degree. Usually it's the switch from bolt action to semi-automatic that affects accuracy since now you add movement to the action during firing, whereas a bolt action weapon is not cycled until well after firing when the operator manually loads the next round.

So if I were to find a way to delay the action moving until after the projectile leaves the barrel I could get BA grade accuracy out of a semi-auto weapon?

In theory yes

[Bezombia]

AFAIK, no, not to any noticeable degree. Usually it's the switch from bolt action to semi-automatic that affects accuracy since now you add movement to the action during firing, whereas a bolt action weapon is not cycled until well after firing when the operator manually loads the next round.

So if I were to find a way to delay the action moving until after the projectile leaves the barrel I could get BA grade accuracy out of a semi-auto weapon?

Close.

You'd also have to not tap the gasses of the projectile, because every grain (for lack of a better word) of gas tapped out of the barrel is a grain of gas not pushing the bullet.

[Fordorsia]

So if I were to find a way to delay the action moving until after the projectile leaves the barrel I could get BA grade accuracy out of a semi-auto weapon?

Close.

You'd also have to not tap the gasses of the projectile, because every grain of gas tapped out of the barrel is a grain of gas not pushing the bullet.

Every grain of gas? That's a new one.

[Black Hand]

So if I were to find a way to delay the action moving until after the projectile leaves the barrel I could get BA grade accuracy out of a semi-auto weapon?

Close.

You'd also have to not tap the gasses of the projectile, because every grain of gas tapped out of the barrel is a grain of gas not pushing the bullet.

Weird phrasing....
Easiest system would be to not use gas op at all in a Semi-Auto, have a electrically triggered round and a small motor to operate the action. minimal movement to disturb the round and modern batteries are small enough for several hundred rounds between recharges.

[Imperializt Russia]

Close.

You'd also have to not tap the gasses of the projectile, because every grain of gas tapped out of the barrel is a grain of gas not pushing the bullet.

Every grain of gas? That's a new one.

I imagine he mains grain as in seventh-thousandth of an ounce.

[Bezombia]

Close.

You'd also have to not tap the gasses of the projectile, because every grain of gas tapped out of the barrel is a grain of gas not pushing the bullet.

Weird phrasing....
Easiest system would be to not use gas op at all in a Semi-Auto, have a electrically triggered round and a small motor to operate the action. minimal movement to disturb the round and modern batteries are small enough for several hundred rounds between recharges.

Or just use a G3 and delay the shit out of it.

[Premislyd]

Every grain of gas? That's a new one.

I imagine he mains grain as in seventh-thousandth of an ounce.

that's a lot of gas

[Black Hand]

Weird phrasing....
Easiest system would be to not use gas op at all in a Semi-Auto, have a electrically triggered round and a small motor to operate the action. minimal movement to disturb the round and modern batteries are small enough for several hundred rounds between recharges.

Or just use a G3 and delay the shit out of it.

However in this case we're talking that the firearm has no moving parts during firing, all movement can be delayed by a hundredth of a second easily
and the round would have left the barrel and the action operated well before a human could pull the trigger again.

[Bezombia]

Or just use a G3 and delay the shit out of it.

However in this case we're talking that the firearm has no moving parts during firing, all movement can be delayed by a hundredth of a second easily
and the round would have left the barrel and the action operated well before a human could pull the trigger again.

And yet then you're placing a timer on your weapon. When that timer runs out, the gun stops shooting.

When you can invent an electronic firing system that can put ten thousand rounds downrange before dying and yet not be significantly heavy or complex, then it may become viable for a mainline rifle.

[Black Hand]

Modern Flamethrower, What would be the best possible fuel?

[The Republic of Lanos]

Modern Flamethrower, What would be the best possible fuel?

Napalm and gasoline with propane for expulsion.