Main Military Weapon of Your Country: Revision 11

[Graznovia]

Assuming you're able and willing to spend some 50,000 to 60,000 NSD a pop (per weapon), which is actually not as insane as one might think considering the relatively minute size of your military; The Orion of the small arms world. Its about as advanced as an MT small arm can get, and would be quite a force multiplier.

Did some quick maths for you; equipping your entire ground forces with this weapon works out to about 4 billion not inclusive of ammunition and accessories.

That looks complicated as all get out: tap-rack-bang does not apply, do not want.

Go buy AK-103s for $220.00 a piece, throw your left-overs towards armor, vehicles, gear, uniforms, or something.

Naturally, for a huge-fuck conscript-based military like mine, AKs are the weapon of choice. Lower readiness level units get hand-me-down AK-74s and (mostly, nowadays) AK-74Ms, and higher readiness units get toys like AK-107 or AG-7 (basically bullpup AK with TKB-0146 aesthetics and lolhuge muzzle brake cum flash suppressor for near-BARS levels of recoil reduction, chambered in Para's 5.45x45mm). Huge piles of hundreds of millions of AKMs and some AK-74s are stockpiled in the event of AAAAAHHHHH MOTHERLAND.

I'm not that great a fan of 7.62x39mm compared to 5.45x39mm or 5.45x45mm; thusly AK-103s are usually maintained in smaller quantities for elite units should the occasion call for 7.62x39mm penetration.

Call me a heretic, but my SpetsnazTM do use that lolexpensive uber R2 rifle.

I'm too lazy to dig up that Spetsnaz video I mentioned earlier and which you asked for concerning the supposed PKP variant I noticed. I'll be sure to do that later, though, primarily cause I'm at school right now. My bad for that.

Edit: Gimme a couple of minutes to fulfill the obligations of top-paging.Done. GLORIOUS SELF LOAD KARABIN OF SIMONOV IS DESIGN OF YEAR 1944 TO KILL FASCIST PIGDOG. RECOMMEND OF BAYONET AS PHOTO SHOW FOR MOST EFFICIENT EXECUTE OF COWARDLY FASCIST PIGDOG WHO SURRENDER TO RED ARMY MIGHT.

[Puzikas]

...and "The Cabin in the Woods" was supposed to be based on the Left 4 Dead series.

I liek L4D.

And on the subject of zombie survival games, movies, tv shows, etc., I've noticed something; there seem to be relatively large quantity of fully-automatic weapons. Aside from police and military, one would imagine that the most commonly seen weapons would be semi-automatics at best. This trend seems to prevail even in otherwise semi-realistic interpretations of numerous post-apocalyptic movies, etc (Excluding "Night of the Living Dead"). Why don't they give civilian guns to the civilian survivors? Surely not all of them were lucky enough to happen upon unattended police or military weaponry.

#Hollywood

off topic though.

[Coltarin]

In IC, we have just given our military an additional 92 billion to work with, and we're planning to purchase new rifles for our infantrymen.

We have 75,000 infantrymen to work with, and we want high quality weapons - durable, flexible, and function.

Any thought on which rifle we might buy within our budget?

Make a contest thread, Because I have a weapon I'm very interested in selling to you.

Also my OICW is starting to reach its final stages, I will post pictures in the morning.

[Black Hand]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

[Spreewerke]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

Okay, so 16 rounds of 9x18mm and 110 rounds of 7.62x39mm; sue me.

[Puzikas]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

SKS.

Too easy. Its good enough I issue them ICly to police in the Siberia regions.

Also, Black, if you want 7.62x54R on the cheep I have plenty of sources. TG me if you want them.

[San-Silvacian]

San used War Pact mash-up!

Its super effective!



Comrade?

[Spreewerke]

San used War Pact mash-up!

Its super effective!

(Image)

Comrade?

Needs more AMD-65 and Pm. Md. 63.

[San-Silvacian]

San used War Pact mash-up!

Its super effective!

(Image)

Comrade?

Needs more AMD-65 and Pm. Md. 63.

FUCKS

I HAVE FORGOTTEN HORSE COCK FOREGRIP of PM. MD. 63.

I REFUSE SILLY AMD-65. THOUGH IS OF GLORY, I DO NOT LIKE RIFLE.

[Spreewerke]

Needs more AMD-65 and Pm. Md. 63.

FUCKS

I HAVE FORGOTTEN HORSE COCK FOREGRIP of PM. MD. 63.

I REFUSE SILLY AMD-65. THOUGH IS OF GLORY, I DO NOT LIKE RIFLE.

AM OF INTENDED USE OF VERTICAL FOREPENISING OF ROMANIAN MEDIOCRE QUALITIES COUPLING WITH OF AMD-65 BARENAKED GAS TUBING FEATURE NOT OF GLORIOUS.

[Sevvania]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

-Norinco SKS carbine modified to accept detachable 30-round magazine
-Universal M1 Carbine
-Colt Commander chambered in .380 Auto

[San-Silvacian]

FUCKS

I HAVE FORGOTTEN HORSE COCK FOREGRIP of PM. MD. 63.

I REFUSE SILLY AMD-65. THOUGH IS OF GLORY, I DO NOT LIKE RIFLE.

AM OF INTENDED USE OF VERTICAL FOREPENISING OF ROMANIAN MEDIOCRE QUALITIES COUPLING WITH OF AMD-65 BARENAKED GAS TUBING FEATURE NOT OF GLORIOUS.

WILL FIX ISSUES OF HORSE COCK FOREGRIP AND NEKKED GAS TUBE OF RIFLE LATER TOMORROW. WILL ALSO ATTEMPT OTHER VIEWS OF RIFLE TO SHOW GLORIOUS DOVETAIL MOUNTING ON KALASHNIKOV SYSTEMA DESIGN AND WILL ALSO MAKE VARIETY OF OPTICS AND SIGHT DEVICES OF BOTH EASTERN AND SHIT TACTICOCK WESTERN.

FOR NOW I SLEEP.

I LEAVE YOU WITH IMAGE NO MAN WANTS TO EVER SEE.

EVER.



HOLD ONTO OF LEAVINGS.

MY SIMONOV-SENSE IS TINGLING.

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

-Norinco SKS carbine modified to accept detachable 30-round magazine
-Universal M1 Carbine
-Colt Commander chambered in .380 Auto

I DO NOT CARE FOR BOTTOM TWO WEAPONS. M1 CARBINE IS OF UNDERPOWERED RIFLE FOR KILLING JAPS AND NAZIS, COLT PISTOL OF GANGSTERS IS UNABLE TO MATCH GLORY OF MAKAROV PISTOL.

RIFLE OF SIMONOV DESIGN IS NOT NEVER BE MODIFIED WITH 30-ROUND MAGAZINE EVER. YOU WISH TO HAVE 30 7.62X39MM CARTRIDGES AT YOUR FINGER TIPS? GRAB RIFLE OF KALASHNIKOV DESIGN. USE OF SKS IS TO ONLY BE WITH 10-ROUND STRIPPER CLIPS.

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San loadout:

AK
Bayonet
PM

done.

[Imperial isa]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

what RL ?

[Ulfr-Reich]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

Hawkens Rifle or my grandfather's/my Springfiled M1903 .

That, and my Luscerne Hammer with a handy-dandy 41 inch handle of skull crushing and armor popping power. And, if push comes to shove, I've got a langseax and an awful lot of patience.

[Fischermann]

San used War Pact mash-up!

Its super effective!

(Image)

Comrade?

We gundumping nao?





606 Shame Not Found

That, and my Luscerne Hammer with a handy-dandy 41 inch handle of skull crushing and armor popping power. And, if push comes to shove, I've got a langseax and an awful lot of patience.

A family friend of ours actually has an Ottoman Sabre in his collection, aside with a military cleaver sort of weapon. I haven't seen him for long, maybe I'll check up on them.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

Well... let's see. I presently live in America, so legality is not really an issue. Probably a bolt action .308 and a 9mm Glock.

We'll be moving to Holland in a few months... so assumably the number of weapons they I'll have access too will drop to ~fuckall. Perhaps a little .22 rifle and... something. I don't know.

[Ulfr-Reich]

MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

Well... let's see. I presently live in America, so legality is not really an issue. Probably a bolt action .308 and a 9mm Glock.

We'll be moving to Holland in a few months... so assumably the number of weapons they I'll have access too will drop to ~fuckall. Perhaps a little .22 rifle and... something. I don't know.

Moving to Holland?

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Moving to Holland?

Ja

[Nua Corda]

I get knocked down, but I get up again, and they're never gunna keep me down

Pissin' the night away....

[Aqizithiuda]

Hmm this zombie movie stuff has got me thinking.
MMW Regulars what are your SHTF Weapons? (if you don't own anything of note Pick something you find practical)
It needs to meet the following
1: legal in your State/Territory/Nation of residence
2: assume that you will not have access to more than 100 Rounds Upon SHTF
3: Think in practical terms.

mine are my 1942 Mosin Nagant, and Far too many knives I have lying about.
(I'd count the 870 wingmaster but that's My father's)

Probably a little .22 or a break action 12 gauge. Most game in Australia can be taken with a .22 if you're a good enough shot, and a lightweight gun and ammo would be handy. I'd probably take an old pair of hedge trimmers apart and make a nice big dagger and/or a spearhead and eventually move on to some kind of crossbow or longbow for when the ammo runs out.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

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Assault Rifle, Caliber 6.8mm, ARC-9

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(The standard ARC-9 with loaded 30 round magazine offset)

ARC-9

• Type: Assault rifle
• Place of Origin: Benomia

Service History

• In Service: 2013 - Present
• Used By: Benomian National Defense Force (Army & Navy)

Production History

• Designed: 2009-2013
• Designer: Khakhov Markop
• Manufactured by: The Markop Company; King cobra Arms
• Produced: 2013 - Present
• Number Built: ~200
• Variants:
  • ARC-9
  • ARC9E1
  • ARC9-H
  • ARU-9
  • SORC-9
  • SRC-13
    
    • SRC13E1
    • SRC13H
    • SRU-13
    • ORC-13

Specifications

• Weight: 7.1 lb (empty)
• Length: 590mm
• Barrel Length: 400mm
  

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• Cartridge(s):
  • 6.8x50mm LPAC
  • 7.62x25 (.300 Tok)(SORC-9/ORC-13)
• Action: Twin-piston, rising/falling breech
• Rate of Fire: 650 rounds/min (adjustable)
• Feed System: 30- or 45-round box magazines
• Sights: Any mounted sights

Background

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After years of service, the aging Viper rifle (formerly used by the Benomian military) was beginning to show its major drawbacks. The heavy brass rounds were preventing the soldiers from carrying much needed ammunition, and the sheer weight prevented decent sized magazines and lightweight paratrooper models. Also, the heavy recoil the round produced kept long range and extended encounters from being handled effectively by Benomian soldiers. In late 2011, the Benomian SOC issued a request for proposals to replace the Viper and Terronium rifles still in their possession. In December of that year, the Benomian Army issued the same request. That program led to the official adoptation of the "M64A1 6.8x70 Caseless Rifle", although it's inability to chamber a round at all in damp conditions, combined with its exessive recoil (even with the BARS mechanism), heavy weight, and litteral inability to dissasemble the rifle without physically breaking it led to it never actually getting issued. In Febuary 2012 the Benomian National Defense Force issued a worldwide request for proposals for a new rifle (dubbed the "ARC", or "Advanced Rifle Competition"), and although every entry failed the moderate succes of an outside caseless rifle led Benomian weapon engineers to rethink the failed M64 as just that - a failure of rifle, not of concept.
Foreign "AK-14" caseless rifles (produced in The Archangel Cologmerate) became the starting point for many new Benomian designs. In late March 2012 a new competition for Benomian makes only (dubbed "ARC-2") with one of the requirements being a caseless design. A total of six rifles entered the competition, but like ARC-1 before it all were rejected and the makes given notice of their rifle's flaws. The competition was set up yet again (as ARC-3), and yet again no rifle met all requirements. This chain of restarting and cancelling the ARC program occured eight times, before one was finally accepted on the ninth version of the competition. The rifle, designed by Khakhov Markop and produced by his corporation, used the same mechanism as late 70s caseless prototypes but in a bullpup format. The rifle was formally adopted on June 19th, 2013, and redesigns for various roles began almost immediately. The Navy branch of the NDF adopted the ARC9E1 rifle on July 8th 2013.


Construction & Design

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The ARC-9's construction is relatively basic. It is constructed from a solid polymer block, with both receivers being milled seperately; the two recievers are rivetted together. The interior workings are mostly constructed out of lightweight aluminum. The magazines are constructed mainly from polymer as well, but some aluminum magazines also exist. Barrels are chrome lined as standard.
The design of the weapon is much more unconventional. It is piston operated (with a gas adjustment system), but there are two phyisical operating rods. The gas from the projectile is extracted at the gas block near the edge of the rifle, and pushed at a 90 degree angle onto the piston (the exess gas is then vented into the surrounding air). The piston (and charging handle) then move rearwards, which acts on a lever which moves the second piston, located behind the trigger under the barrel. This bottom piston pushes the cartridge rearward, directly into the breechblock. The upper piston continues rearward which moves a large, flat cam profile attached to the side of the breech, which moves backwards, shifting the breechblock directly upwards in line with the barrel. If the trigger is depressed, when the breechblock gets in line with the barrel the hammer will fire the cartridge, which also actutes the cam lever, pushing forward the piston, down the breechblock, etc. When there is no cartridge left in the magazine, the first half of operation will complete itself, leaving the breechblock in the upper position and the charging handle rearward. A magazine must then be inserted, a bolt release (located on the left side of the rifle) hit, and then the charging handle pumped to load a new cartridge. If a cartridge is loaded and must be ejected, the magazine must be removed, the charging handle pushed forward, and the rifle tilted to the front until the cartridge falls out.
The magazines are completely closed on the top, which prevents exessive moisture from entering the magazines as well as simplifying the feeding process. Magazines can be loaded by depressing a thumbpart on the side of the magazine, and then placing the cartridges in one by one.
The rifle features seperate a seperate safety and fire selector. The selector can select from full-automatic or semi-automatic. The magazine release is ergonomically built into the stock, and the compensator is removable to attach sound suppresors.


Variants

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Many variations of the ARC-9 concept are planned, with some already in production. The main version, the ARC-9, features a 400mm barrel. The version adopted by the navy, featuring a lengthed 508mm barrel, is known as the ARC9E1 (sometimes the hyphen is included, but formal military designation does not indclude hyphens for "E" or "A" rifles varients). There is also a civilian version known as the SRC-13, that is semi-automatic only and lacks the gas adjustment system,

In addition to these main versions, there are multiple planned versions of the rifle. The ARC9-H is a variant with a 650mm barrel to be issued in the infantry automatic rifle role, with some versions featuring modified magwells and 100-round drum magazines replacing some belt fed light machineguns. The ARU-9 is an ultrashort version of the ARC-9 with a greatly shortened front handguard/receiver and a 275mm barrel. The SORC-9 is a modified version of the rifle with a different magwel and chambered for the 7.62x25mm round standard in Benomian pistols and PDWs. This version lacks a gas regulator, as adjusting the system either direction caused severe reliability concerns.
The SRC-13 civilian line also has versions the mirror the above military-spec rifles. They are the SRC13E1, SRC13H, SRU-13, and ORC-13, respectively.

There was also plans to produce an export rifle chambered in a telescoped version of the 6.8x43mm SPC cartridge, although this specific program has been postponed until sufficient military production lines can be established.

This BBcode format courtesy of Corda

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Significant improvement, Beano.

[Ulfr-Reich]

Alrighty, I finally have the writeup for the "footman/fighter" model of the M1908/10 T-Maskinengevaer.


In all it's bulky glory:




It's gloriously not-bulky writeup:

Officially deemed one of the more "clever" models of maxim modification of it's era, the M1908/12 Tjeneste Maskinengevaer Vígamaðr Modell is essentially the "light" model of belt fed machinegun available during the Deep War for Ulfran troops. The origins of this peculiar, yet efficient modification to the usually crew-served M1908/10 Tejeneste Maskinengevaer; albeit deem-ably unwieldy, it had served during a time of great duress (Deep War), acting as a stand-in for the effective, yet costly Model 1900 Tjeneste Ljós-Maskingevaer. Serving as an attempt at making a crew-served weapon more man-portable, the M1908/12 T-Maskinengevaer or "Vígamaðr " (fighter) as it's been called during the Deep War and the inter-war years due to an obscenely sturdy receiver (more weight) and it's "made to purpose" concept of manufacture. In a sense, this highly weighty and rather cumbersome variation u pon the crew-served M1908/10 T-Maskinengevaer set an ideal in place for a fully-functional infantry carried light support weapon, other might even view it as a success due to the role it played in chewing through the hordes of Naðrfirar and their various vat-bred monstrosities thrown against the valiant serving men and women of the Ulfheim subcontinent's highly militaristic nations.



Name: U.H.Q.G. - M1908/12 T-Maskinengevaer Vígamaðr Schlitten

Cartridge: 13.2x94mm Ljøkmaalr

Ammunition Capacity: Belt fed/ can be fed with M1900 L-Maskinengevaer magazines and drum via adaptor (prone to malfunction, but better than nothing in a pinch)

Action: Short-Recoil/Toggle-Locking

Rate of Fire: 450 - 500 rounds/min

Muzzle Velocity: 2,930 f/s

Sights: U.H.Q.G. M1907 Maskingevaer Syn

[Triplebaconation]

Decided to inject some Holloway.

[Aqizithiuda]

Decided to inject some Holloway.

(Image)

I was just about to post a link to the Holloway. It seems like it would have been a pretty damn nice gun, had it been developed further.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0ih6NEE6Rs

http://biggerhammer.net/hac7/

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php ... light=hac7

[Benomia]

Significant improvement, Beano.

Thanks!