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Postby Orussia » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:47 pm

Ea90 wrote:
Orussia wrote:Errrrrmmm...that's not a Merk.

That's a Swedish CV90-120.

I believe he's referring to the Garuda.

But...
...
...
The Garuda is labeled as an MBT...
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Postby Ea90 » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:49 pm

Orussia wrote:But...
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The Garuda is labeled as an MBT...

And it can hold 8 passengers.

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Postby Galla- » Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:50 pm

Questers wrote:I believe what killed ETC was an inability tot make the system power efficient. in a few decades we may see a resurrection


By then we'll have the weird FCS concepts that included stuff like EM multibarrels.
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Islamic of Al Fatih
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Postby Islamic of Al Fatih » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:47 pm

Our Military Ground Vehicles
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MBT T-99A

Crew : 4 (Driver, Cammander, Gunner, Reloader)
Armor : armour modular design.
Main armament : 120 mm (4.7 in) smoothbore gun, capable of firing ATGM
Secondary armament : 1 × 12.7 mm (0.50 in) CIWS
1 × 60 mm (2.4 in) internal mortar
12 smoke grenades
Engine : 1,500 hp (1,119 kW) turbocharged diesel engine


IMNAS

Crew : 3 (Driver, Gunner) + 8
Engine : IMNAS-T945 215-250 hp
Transmission : 6 manual / 5 automatic
Suspension : 4x4
Ground clearance : 0.4 Meters
Speed : 140-180 km/h


BMP-99

Crew : 3 (Driver, Cammander, Gunner) + 4
Armor : 35 mm (1.4 in) max. frontal armour
Main armament : 30 mm autocannon 2A59
Secondary : armament 2×7.62 mm SMB machine guns, 1x5.45mm machine gun, 1x40mm grenade launcher
Engine : IMNAS-29M diesel 500 hp (375 kW)


BTR-99MS

Crew : 3 (Driver, Cammander, Gunner) + 8
Armor 30 mm max. frontal armour
Main armament : 14.5 mm SMB machine gun auto canon
Secondary armament : 7.62 mm SMB machine gun
Engine : diesel IMNAS-9909 260 hp (190 kW)
Power/weight : 19 hp/tonne
Suspension : wheeled 8×8
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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:15 pm

Purpelia wrote:Random question time. How would a newer used (was put into storage immediately after production and only now unpacked) BT-5 fare as a motorcar for civilians in the 1950's? The idea being that the army wanted to get rid of them all and just dumped them for a token price on the civilian market as motor cars after disarming them.

Historically tank engines have 250 operating hours of life before depot overhauls. German WWII heavy (Panther and Tiger) tank engines had something like 100 or less operating hours of life before field overhauls.

Tank engines are bad car engines. Tank engines are bad tractor engines to boot, although if you derate the tank engine by half, you might get much more operating mileage out of it. It would also help if you cut out a bit of the armor plating.
Questers wrote:I believe what killed ETC was an inability tot make the system power efficient. in a few decades we may see a resurrection

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA476392
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Postby Purpelia » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:22 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:It would also help if you cut out a bit of the armor plating.

Can I actually do that without actually building a new one from scratch? And I imagine that even if I could cutting it apart so much would probably make the whole thing more expensive than scraping it for steel.
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Rich and Corporations
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:24 pm

Purpelia wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:It would also help if you cut out a bit of the armor plating.

Can I actually do that without actually building a new one from scratch? And I imagine that even if I could cutting it apart so much would probably make the whole thing more expensive than scraping it for steel.

Not really. The Germans converted a few of their tanks to tank destroyers. Just weld away everything but the chassis.
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Postby Noders » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:24 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Can I actually do that without actually building a new one from scratch? And I imagine that even if I could cutting it apart so much would probably make the whole thing more expensive than scraping it for steel.

Not really. The Germans converted a few of their tanks to tank destroyers. Just weld away everything but the chassis.

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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:25 pm

Noders wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:Not really. The Germans converted a few of their tanks to tank destroyers. Just weld away everything but the chassis.

Hetzer built from the Pz 38 (t) StuG III from the Panzer III

O rly?
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:36 pm

Okay, I need someone to help explain Torque Converters to me.
It seems like a magic.
Even after reading an article on it on How Stuff Works.
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Postby Oaledonia » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:42 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:Okay, I need someone to help explain Torque Converters to me.
It seems like a magic.
Even after reading an article on it on How Stuff Works.

This maybe?
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Postby Vitaphone Racing » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:43 pm

Rich and Corporations wrote:Okay, I need someone to help explain Torque Converters to me.
It seems like a magic.
Even after reading an article on it on How Stuff Works.

What don't you understand about it exactly?
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Postby Noders » Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:58 pm

Oaledonia wrote:
Noders wrote:Hetzer built from the Pz 38 (t) StuG III from the Panzer III

O rly?

I lol'ed
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:22 am

Noders wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:O rly?

I lol'ed

fk u n r splosiv mert
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:26 am

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Purpelia wrote:Random question time. How would a newer used (was put into storage immediately after production and only now unpacked) BT-5 fare as a motorcar for civilians in the 1950's? The idea being that the army wanted to get rid of them all and just dumped them for a token price on the civilian market as motor cars after disarming them.

Historically tank engines have 250 operating hours of life before depot overhauls. German WWII heavy (Panther and Tiger) tank engines had something like 100 or less operating hours of life before field overhauls.

Tank engines are bad car engines. Tank engines are bad tractor engines to boot, although if you derate the tank engine by half, you might get much more operating mileage out of it. It would also help if you cut out a bit of the armor plating.
Questers wrote:I believe what killed ETC was an inability tot make the system power efficient. in a few decades we may see a resurrection

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA476392

In fairness, that power pack doesn't look easy to downscale or move elsewhere in the turret, meaning you could have no bustle stowage.
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:27 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Noders wrote:I lol'ed

fk u n r splosiv mert

On a semi-serious note, this video comes to mind when I hear the hetzer.
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Postby Noders » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:30 am

Oaledonia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:fk u n r splosiv mert

On a semi-serious note, this video comes to mind when I hear the hetzer.

I just watched all 12 episodes very cute xD
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Postby Rich and Corporations » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:38 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:In fairness, that power pack doesn't look easy to downscale or move elsewhere in the turret, meaning you could have no bustle stowage.

It actually says the power pack is 1099 mm x 414 mm x 440 mm = 200 liters
I don't even know how you manage to be this wrong.

Vitaphone Racing wrote:
Rich and Corporations wrote:Okay, I need someone to help explain Torque Converters to me.
It seems like a magic.
Even after reading an article on it on How Stuff Works.

What don't you understand about it exactly?

Somehow the force of an engine spins a turbine propelling the car.... eh. Nevermind, knowing about it isn't needed.
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Postby Registug » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:45 am

Noders wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:On a semi-serious note, this video comes to mind when I hear the hetzer.

I just watched all 12 episodes very cute xD

You two might be interested in a fic/rp I'm writing then.
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Postby Oaledonia » Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:46 am

Registug wrote:
Noders wrote:I just watched all 12 episodes very cute xD

You two might be interested in a fic/rp I'm writing then.

There's a tank Rp floating around somewhere.

It's like Girls Und Panzer, only it's our nations....
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Postby Baskisk » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:11 am

We opperate a large mechanized force conspiring of many armour vehecals. The majority are Mobil-gun systems but other vehicles are used.

150 Leopard2A6 tanks arranged into 15 tank squadrons.

212 CEASAR Self-Propelled Howitzers arranged into 11 Mobile Batteries

200 M163 VADS (repurposed for Anti-personel roles) arranged into 10 Squadrions

95 Avenger Air Defence Systems arranged into 1 per company.

45 new CV90105 light tanks arranged for 3 to ever tank Squadrion.

50 Warrior IVF arranged for 2 to every infantry division.

120 TPz Fuchs ACP's arranged for 2 for every infantry company.

60 M1129 mortar carriers arranged for 1 for every infantry company

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:16 am

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:In fairness, that power pack doesn't look easy to downscale or move elsewhere in the turret, meaning you could have no bustle stowage.

It actually says the power pack is 1099 mm x 414 mm x 440 mm = 200 liters
I don't even know how you manage to be this wrong.

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I'd like to see you try and fit some bustle stowage around that or move a box over a metre in length elsewhere in an existing turret.
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Postby European Prussia » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:31 am

Ea90 wrote:
Orussia wrote:But...
...
...
The Garuda is labeled as an MBT...

And it can hold 8 passengers.


Sooo it's an IFV? APC? Besides being a Tank

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:35 am

European Prussia wrote:
Ea90 wrote:And it can hold 8 passengers.


Sooo it's an IFV? APC? Besides being a Tank

The Merkava cannot hold eight passengers.
It can't even carry four. Not if it wants to fight.

The thing about the Merkava is that while it does have space that may, in exceptional circumstances, be used to transport four people.
At the expense of ammunition.
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Postby European Prussia » Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:36 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
European Prussia wrote:
Sooo it's an IFV? APC? Besides being a Tank

The Merkava cannot hold eight passengers.
It can't even carry four. Not if it wants to fight.

The thing about the Merkava is that while it does have space that may, in exceptional circumstances, be used to transport four people.
At the expense of ammunition.


Alright,thanks for the info mate

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