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The Kievan People
7
9%
Questers
6
7%
Rich and Corporations
1
1%
Yes Im Biop
6
7%
Anemos Major
38
47%
Dragomere
19
23%
Mod Controlled
4
5%
 
Total votes : 81

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United States of PA
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Founded: Apr 01, 2009
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Postby United States of PA » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:36 pm

You know there is a theory around where im from since i live in the backwoods and all...

If its got wheels, it'll roll.
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Radictistan
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Posts: 3065
Founded: Nov 21, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Radictistan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:37 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Radictistan wrote:So the conversation about the drawbacks of the MT-LBu has gotten me thinking about replacing my 1V12-series FISTVs. My first thought is just to make a new version of the BRM-3K with more artillery-specific sensors and equipment. On the other hand, for ultimate non-conspicuousness, it might be better to do something more like the FV 514 Warrior with the BMP-3 as starting point. Naturally I'm undecided. It would be really nice to at least keep the 30mm gun. I don't know if that can be done with the normal BMP-3.

I'm also toying with the idea of adding a recce troop to my tank battalions like the Brits have. I can't decide between a more U.S.-style armored cavalry with a dismount capability or a more British-style that's focused more tightly on mounted observation. So basically the question is BMP-3s or Spruts. My divisional recce units are pretty much U.S. cavalry "squadrons" of the late Cold War but with Russian equipment so for the sake of orderliness I might be inclined for the former option.


Have you considered the BRDM-3?

I have the 1V152 in Mechanized Divisions, which have wheeled IFVs. I want something for the Armored Divisions which use tracked IFVs instead.

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Lydenburg
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Founded: May 20, 2011
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Postby Lydenburg » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:39 pm

Radictistan wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:
Have you considered the BRDM-3?

I have the 1V152 in Mechanized Divisions, which have wheeled IFVs. I want something for the Armored Divisions which use tracked IFVs instead.


So you're using the BTR-80 as an IFV, even though it was primarily designed for recon and the like.
And you're using IFVs like the BMP for recon.

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Alouite
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Founded: Jan 21, 2013
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Alouite » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:42 pm

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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:45 pm

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Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
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Immoren
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Founded: Mar 20, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Immoren » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:50 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Radictistan wrote:I have the 1V152 in Mechanized Divisions, which have wheeled IFVs. I want something for the Armored Divisions which use tracked IFVs instead.


So you're using the BTR-80 as an IFV, even though it was primarily designed for recon and the like.
And you're using IFVs like the BMP for recon.

No different from how Finns conduct armored recon. :p

Although even to this day I am not sure if our use of stock BMP-2s and cv90s for armored recon is budget issue, doctrinal issue, or the fact we've no idea what armoured recon actually is and how it actually should be conducted.
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Crookfur
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Postby Crookfur » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:51 pm

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Novorden
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Founded: Dec 03, 2013
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Postby Novorden » Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:54 pm

Apparently the tankers would used them as logistics vehicle liked them as they could go anywhere their tanks could.

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Radictistan
Minister
 
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Founded: Nov 21, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Radictistan » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:00 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
Radictistan wrote:I have the 1V152 in Mechanized Divisions, which have wheeled IFVs. I want something for the Armored Divisions which use tracked IFVs instead.


So you're using the BTR-80 as an IFV, even though it was primarily designed for recon and the like.
And you're using IFVs like the BMP for recon.

No. I use the BTR-80 chassis for a number of different vehicles, including the 1V152 FISTV. The main IFV is the BTR-90, but infantry organic to Armored Divisions use the BMP-3. Therefore for logistics' sake I want a BTR-80-based FISTV for wheeled units and a BMP-3-based FISTV for the tracked units.

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Virana
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Posts: 2547
Founded: Jan 04, 2012
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Postby Virana » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:11 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Novorden wrote:Whoops, i will change it next time i am on my desktop.


No. No you wont.

Whether or not you dislike him, putting him in the poll is standard procedure if he was nominated. You aren't being compelled to vote for him.
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Risen Britannia
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Founded: Jan 06, 2011
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Postby Risen Britannia » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:14 pm

Virana wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
No. No you wont.

Whether or not you dislike him, putting him in the poll is standard procedure if he was nominated. You aren't being compelled to vote for him.

Well the poll now includes him, it just seem to reset the poll.
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The Akasha Colony
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Founded: Apr 25, 2010
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Virana wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
No. No you wont.

Whether or not you dislike him, putting him in the poll is standard procedure if he was nominated. You aren't being compelled to vote for him.


He was nominated in the NSMRC thread too, but I didn't include him since the nomination wasn't in the proper format. Same reason I didn't include Lanos.

Risen Britannia wrote:
Virana wrote:Whether or not you dislike him, putting him in the poll is standard procedure if he was nominated. You aren't being compelled to vote for him.

Well the poll now includes him, it just seem to reset the poll.


I was going to mention that editing a poll resets it, but I didn't think it'd actually be edited.
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Alouite
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Founded: Jan 21, 2013
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Postby Alouite » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:20 pm

Alouite wrote:A Greek man riding a Segway yelling "Mallaca! Mallaca!" while shooting Greek yogurt from a water pistol.

Well that and a drunk kabab salesman running his cart full of skewers down the street.
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The Patriot Act, The Illegitimate Communist Authorities in China, Economic Libertarianism, Absolutism and Communism

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Macedonian Grand Empire
Minister
 
Posts: 2771
Founded: Jan 08, 2012
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:21 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Virana wrote:Whether or not you dislike him, putting him in the poll is standard procedure if he was nominated. You aren't being compelled to vote for him.


He was nominated in the NSMRC thread too, but I didn't include him since the nomination wasn't in the proper format. Same reason I didn't include Lanos.

Risen Britannia wrote:Well the poll now includes him, it just seem to reset the poll.


I was going to mention that editing a poll resets it, but I didn't think it'd actually be edited.


Anemos had the most votes during the voting.
Also people you here had a bad experience with Dragomare?
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Imperializt Russia
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Founded: Jun 03, 2011
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:24 pm

Dragomere is an individual with a tenuous grasp of feasibility or realism in his concepts.
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Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
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Virana
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Founded: Jan 04, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Virana » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:26 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Virana wrote:Whether or not you dislike him, putting him in the poll is standard procedure if he was nominated. You aren't being compelled to vote for him.


He was nominated in the NSMRC thread too, but I didn't include him since the nomination wasn't in the proper format. Same reason I didn't include Lanos.

That's fine then. But on this thread, he was nominated properly, so keeping him off because of popular disapproval (which could be expressed through a lack of votes rather than removal from the ballot) is not the right way of handling it.

Regardless, I'm glad the ballot was edited to include all individuals who were appropriately nominated.
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Macedonian Grand Empire
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Founded: Jan 08, 2012
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:34 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Dragomere is an individual with a tenuous grasp of feasibility or realism in his concepts.

I know. He got himself baned from the NSG senate. He had claims of a corporation of 300.000 employees that are fanatically loyal to him. A AI that could hack and destroy the government. A palace where he lives that has death pits, cyanide splinkers and so on... Not to mention a bunker like in the cold war for leaders that no one knew about and what not else...
Edit: Now I remembered he convincing around 50.000 people to sell him their land in order to pay rent to him. Net worth of 456 billion GBP, a bullet train system that would cost around 10 trillion GBP... and so on...
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The Republic of Lanos
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Founded: Apr 17, 2009
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:36 pm

Virana wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
He was nominated in the NSMRC thread too, but I didn't include him since the nomination wasn't in the proper format. Same reason I didn't include Lanos.

That's fine then. But on this thread, he was nominated properly, so keeping him off because of popular disapproval (which could be expressed through a lack of votes rather than removal from the ballot) is not the right way of handling it.

Regardless, I'm glad the ballot was edited to include all individuals who were appropriately nominated.

Dragomere has a really bad track record beyond just here. If he gets the OP, I'm not rejoining the thread.

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Macedonian Grand Empire
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Founded: Jan 08, 2012
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:42 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Virana wrote:That's fine then. But on this thread, he was nominated properly, so keeping him off because of popular disapproval (which could be expressed through a lack of votes rather than removal from the ballot) is not the right way of handling it.

Regardless, I'm glad the ballot was edited to include all individuals who were appropriately nominated.

Dragomere has a really bad track record beyond just here. If he gets the OP, I'm not rejoining the thread.


Tell me how the hell did he got 7 votes...
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New Tyran
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Founded: Jan 06, 2013
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:44 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Dragomere has a really bad track record beyond just here. If he gets the OP, I'm not rejoining the thread.


Tell me how the hell did he got 7 votes...

Tell me how he's leading...

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Riysa
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Founded: Jan 07, 2013
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Postby Riysa » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:45 pm

New Tyran wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Tell me how the hell did he got 7 votes...

Tell me how he's leading...


Everyone, just switch your vote to Anemos Major. Now.

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New Tyran
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Founded: Jan 06, 2013
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:46 pm

Riysa wrote:
New Tyran wrote:Tell me how he's leading...


Everyone, just switch your vote to Anemos Major. Now.

I've already voted for him.

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Macedonian Grand Empire
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Posts: 2771
Founded: Jan 08, 2012
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:48 pm

New Tyran wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Tell me how the hell did he got 7 votes...

Tell me how he's leading...

Pupeting or someone is just trooling?
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Riysa
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Founded: Jan 07, 2013
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Postby Riysa » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:52 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
New Tyran wrote:Tell me how he's leading...

Pupeting or someone is just trooling?


Maybe both?

All I know is that its a tie right now. Duck guys, duck.

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New Tyran
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Founded: Jan 06, 2013
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Postby New Tyran » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:52 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
New Tyran wrote:Tell me how he's leading...

Pupeting or someone is just trooling?

Don't know...

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