Military Ground Vehicles of Your Nation [NO MECHS] Mk.V

[Yes Im Biop]

O. Cool, so is it an RC? I couldn't tell from the description

RC?

Remote Controlled, A Drone.

[Anemos Major]

I'm pretty sure very few RL AA tanks are used on a MBT chassis, if it weren't for austerity, we'd primarily be using Bradley chassis for that... I think, but we mount AA mainly on our HUMVW. Few rear vehicles have no need for the weight capacity of a MBT chassis. For instance, 10% of a vehicles weight is in it's suspension, if you have a vehicle that's overdesigned for it's requirements, it will consume too much fuel.

There are precedents, historical ofcourse, of the German plans to build flakzwilling E100, and the fielding of Porsche Tigers with the Ferdinand, but I forgive your lack of knowledge in this matter.

Your graciousness is much appreciated, and I shall extend the same forgiveness to your apparent lack of knowledge concerning militaries outside the United States - the Otomatic, Japanese Type 87 and Loara-A are all built on the chassis of an MBT of some sort, and the Marksman system has been hitched up to many more. With SPAAGs in particular, what you intend to do with them is a primarily doctrinal concern - vehicles are designed to suit the requirements of their users, not those of other nations before them, and the SHORADS role played by SPAAG units in any air defence umbrella means that they're going to be up front if they're meant to be supporting other armoured assets.

It was just a suggestion. Another suggestion is to replace the 155mm gun on the SPA with a 105mm high velocity, add anti-air box launchers, and mount a radar on it, and you'd have a decent air defence tank.

Air defence vehicles aren't simply about carrying ordnance - they require a *lot* of specialist electronics besides that. Given that this is the case, there's no need to shoehorn a tank or an SPH into playing the part of a MRSAM when there're dedicated batteries that should be doing that kind of work. As for the 105mm HV gun, that could be an idea in a less comprehensive air defence network but the SPAAGs I have now are just a very small part of a broader air defence arrangement - by the time you get to things that need to be engaged with a 105, there're missiles to do that job elsewhere.

I see, you should mention that. Although given that the M3 Bradley exists, maybe have a six passenger variant and a ten passenger variant. As a suggestion.

It is in the write-up, if one cares to look. I only put in what I perceived to be basic information here, so a few things were omitted :S And the latter might be an idea if I used the HIFV a little more, but in this case it's more a gun carrier and support vehicle than anything; it's not there for its troop bay, so there's no need to spend money on a second variant just to extend it.

[Anemos Major]

Remote Controlled, A Drone.

No, it's manned. It's a battlefield clearance vehicle, not a rear-area support one, so it's more practical to make sure that it's fully manned and capable of hatch-down operations rather than relying on some sort of external control to keep it going.

[Yes Im Biop]

Remote Controlled, A Drone.

No, it's manned. It's a battlefield clearance vehicle, not a rear-area support one, so it's more practical to make sure that it's fully manned and capable of hatch-down operations rather than relying on some sort of external control to keep it going.

Ouch, Hope it's more armored than an MBT. Modern U.S. Mine clearing stuff like this are drone's for a reason (Though they are RC and Wired)

[Anemos Major]

Ouch, Hope it's more armored than an MBT. Modern U.S. Mine clearing stuff like this are drone's for a reason (Though they are RC and Wired)

They're not though.

[Immoren]

Biop. Bots are used for EOD.

[Yes Im Biop]

Ouch, Hope it's more armored than an MBT. Modern U.S. Mine clearing stuff like this are drone's for a reason (Though they are RC and Wired)

They're not though.

That's an M1 with a Plow. Fuck, Well the only drone I could find was a 4x4 one. But on BPAfgan they were using what looked like an Abram's frame and a heavy roller/plow and it was an RC.

Yes I know. The little one are and there are BIG ones that the army uses.

[Risen Britannia]

Going on weight I believe the Trojan AVRE has been up armoured as it weighs the same as the Challenger 2 despite not having the turret.

[Galla-]

Ouch, Hope it's more armored than an MBT. Modern U.S. Mine clearing stuff like this are drone's for a reason (Though they are RC and Wired)

They're not though.

It varies.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

281 by 85cm?

Yes?

That is what your vehicle measures, length by width, in a 1px:1cm scale.

This is significantly smaller than a Wiesel.

[Anemos Major]

It varies.

As with most things. But for now, it's a handful of Panthers against the 40 or so ABVs and many other mine-clearance vehicles in terms of sheer numbers.

It *is* probably worth noting that the increasing sophistication of communications technology compared to what they had when they designed the Panther II means that there's no need to develop RC-centric mine clearance vehicles when you can just design a crewed vehicle with the capacity to be controlled remotely (which they're doing with vehicles like the Terrier now) - with tasks like mine clearance, either option is entirely feasible.

[Anemos Major]

I await eagerly an internal view of the HT9A7.

Just to add to this, the way the HT9A7 is designed means I *can* loosely say 'just think Leclerc' as far as crew positioning is concerned. Just positioning, mind - between everything from interfacing to the autoloader, it's not a Leclerc by any means.

[Rich and Corporations]

It is in the write-up, if one cares to look. I only put in what I perceived to be basic information here, so a few things were omitted

I suggest spoiler tags.

Yes?

That is what your vehicle measures, length by width, in a 1px:1cm scale.

This is significantly smaller than a Wiesel.

I'm revising it to a 1px:2cm scale then.

Going on weight I believe the Trojan AVRE has been up armoured as it weighs the same as the Challenger 2 despite not having the turret.

Actually winches and motors and etc are pretty heavy.... although they may have added some armor.

[Anemos Major]

I suggest spoiler tags.

My post on this thread - it's not *overly* long, and these threads have seen worse.

If you mean my write-up, god no. Spoiler tags are hideous. There're fairly obvious section headings, so it's not too problematic to run through.

[San-Silvacian]

As long as it's visually appealing, most people won't care.

[Anemos Major]

As long as it's visually appealing, most people won't care.

Such is the way things are. But for those who don't need things to be polished and polished again, the headings within the overall write-up should provide enough of an indicator anyway.

[Rich and Corporations]

As long as it's visually appealing, most people won't care.

But what if you didn't do the research, poked under her hood, and ended up with AIDS?

If you mean my write-up, god no. Spoiler tags are hideous. There're fairly obvious section headings, so it's not too problematic to run through.

[Anemos Major]

As long as it's visually appealing, most people won't care.

But what if you didn't do the research, poked under her hood, and ended up with AIDS?

If you mean my write-up, god no. Spoiler tags are hideous. There're fairly obvious section headings, so it's not too problematic to run through.

It's all in the eyes of the beholder

maybe I'm blind D:

(spoilers *really* aren't my thing, but the fact that I ended up indexing my HT9A7 write-up is evidence enough that I know you have a point Term ends for me this Saturday, so hopefully I'll have some time to make things more accessible)

[Virana]

I suggest spoiler tags.

My post on this thread - it's not *overly* long, and these threads have seen worse.

If you mean my write-up, god no. Spoiler tags are hideous. There're fairly obvious section headings, so it's not too problematic to run through.

I'm with you on the note about spoilers. In a proper, aesthetically pleasing writeup, spoiler tags are absolutely horrid. A table of contents (and/or index) and large section headings are the way to go for an effective writeup, tbh.

[San-Silvacian]

But what if you didn't do the research, poked under her hood, and ended up with AIDS?

It's all in the eyes of the beholder

maybe I'm blind D:

(spoilers *really* aren't my thing, but the fact that I ended up indexing my HT9A7 write-up is evidence enough that I know you have a point Term ends for me this Saturday, so hopefully I'll have some time to make things more accessible)

I would say you are blind.

Your nation's language supports this.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

But what if you didn't do the research, poked under her hood, and ended up with AIDS?

It's all in the eyes of the beholder

maybe I'm blind D:

(spoilers *really* aren't my thing, but the fact that I ended up indexing my HT9A7 write-up is evidence enough that I know you have a point Term ends for me this Saturday, so hopefully I'll have some time to make things more accessible)

Still running through July?

I thought you were still going to uni in England

[Anemos Major]

Still running through July?

I thought you were still going to uni in England

Exams ended a month ago, but if uni's going to give me budget catered halls in central (and I mean central) London until Saturday, I'll take it. (need to enjoy my first year while it lasts, or so I'm told)

Tank pr0n to make up for my blindness:

[New Tsavon]

More A2 Sturmpanzerwagen variants.

[Stahn]

oops...

[New Vihenia]

Reworking my Defender II tank's turret..

New One

Tracks are animatable

Well still WiP for almost eternity... for some reason i'm too scared and inconfident in laying polies now....might be stupid but it seems i've wasted much resources on sectors that people rarely look at..(One notorious example : Radar) Recovery is underway..but it might just taking too much time and once i managed to get around a thing... i'll be left behind in other or even several things.

And specifications are now available ..though only basic dimensions

Defender II Main Battle Tank :

Overall Length : 12.215 m
Overall Width : 4 m
Overall Height : 3,5 m (incl RWS)
Combat weight : 58000 Kg

Crew : 3
Propulsion : 1x V-12 supercharged multifuel diesel engine developing power of 1712Hp
Transmission type : Electric transmission with permanent magnet motor.
Suspension : Active hydropneumatic suspension.
Fuel capacity : 1400 litres (1148 Kg) of diesel fuel

Armaments :
-Arclite 138mm 55 Cal gun with autoloader
-23 mm heavy machinegun RWS
-14,5mm co-axial tank machinegun

Armor : WIP.. need to measure internal volume first before deciding any thickness available before spewing xxxium.


Oh and BTW as requested.. i released the "V-0" of my Gun calculator

Gun Calculator

For those problem with mediafire.. you may try using this to view the file instead

View

alternate links

http://depositfiles.com/files/5m1i2pchz

It will calculate muzzle velocity, recoil force, inflight velocity of a projectile and it may provide simple assessement whether your vehicle can safely fire the gun without causing uncomfortable vibrations to the crew.

The spreadsheet is largely based on "Technology of Tanks" by Ogorkieswicz and a book about theory and practice about ballistics and gun designs.

Future updates may include some "penetration" calculator to calculate penetration of projectile to object other than metals (say..concrete)

Final remarks is use at your own risk.. hmm it's still pretty much in infacy.. many stuff there need to be cross checked and debugged. I'm actually want to use Odermatt's equation for calculating maximum pressure but it doesn't seem to work..so i'm stick to Technology of Tanks.

Contact information is provided inside the sheet.