Dragomere Factbook

[Dragomere]

THIS is how I appropriate my budget.

Your budget is about the same amount modern day US spends on their military and they struggle, although not that much, to keep their army of five million properly trained and equipped. Five million is that the US army's total size? Anyway, you have more than twice the amount of soldiers and that would mean many can't be given the proper equipment and training they need.

The RL USA only spends about 20% on the military, I spend 50%.

[Themiclesia]

Or you could be like me; have an elite (i. e. small) army.

[Rodrania]

Or you could be like me; have an elite (i. e. small) army.

He is probably going to God-Mod that... So no

[New Tyran]

Your budget is about the same amount modern day US spends on their military and they struggle, although not that much, to keep their army of five million properly trained and equipped. Five million is that the US army's total size? Anyway, you have more than twice the amount of soldiers and that would mean many can't be given the proper equipment and training they need.

The RL USA only spends about 20% on the military, I spend 50%.

I spend 34% of my government budget on my military and that is a budget of check my signature. You spend 50% which you claim but only 20% in the stats anyway your budget is $783,541,836,000.00. Your argument is invalid.

[Esternial]

THIS is how I appropriate my budget.

You made those statistics yourself, no?

[Grand Britannia]

THIS is how I appropriate my budget.

Your budget is about the same amount modern day US spends on their military and they struggle, although not that much, to keep their army of five million properly trained and equipped. Five million is that the US army's total size? Anyway, you have more than twice the amount of soldiers and that would mean many can't be given the proper equipment and training they need.

US military only has ~2.2 million personnel total(logistics and combat). Defense was at 23%

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/def ... 012_3.html

[New Tyran]

Your budget is about the same amount modern day US spends on their military and they struggle, although not that much, to keep their army of five million properly trained and equipped. Five million is that the US army's total size? Anyway, you have more than twice the amount of soldiers and that would mean many can't be given the proper equipment and training they need.

US military only has ~2.2 million personnel total(logistics and combat). Defense was at 23%

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/def ... 012_3.html

Ah, thanks I never knew their total current size.

[Themiclesia]

Our lingo:

unbelievably small army = elite army
outdated equipment = tested and proven equipment
chronic underfunding for defence = moderation and confidence in peace
archaic structure and command = valuing tradition and established principles
overpayment and pampering of soldiers = taking good care and honouring our nation's defenders

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

My government is democratically run. 50% of the total expenditures go to the military. At age 15, all children are taught how to shoot a military grade weapon with expert precision. Only the top 10% get into the military, and only the top 5% get to be on active duty.

Only 20% of your spending goes to the Military

And everyone else...

Let me explain. RPing is a freeform activity. Every decision relies on everyone involved agreeing on it. In other words, if you don't want to accept him doing what he wants to do, you don't have to. If you refuse to accept it, and tell him you're not happy with it, there's nothing he can do to stop you. He shouldn't try to force any decision on you, since that's just bad RP etiquette.

Vice versa nothing entitles you to demand that any other nation conform to any aspect of your desiring, not even realism. What you can do is ignore and not interact with the player at all, this is the most misunderstood right of a roleplayer on NS in my honest opinion. If it's not realistic or heck even to your liking? Don't interact with it, as simple as that and yet so mindboggingly hard for some, I know I had difficulties with it.

And furthermore in my honest opinion, this

[New Tyran]

Only 20% of your spending goes to the Military

And everyone else...

Let me explain. RPing is a freeform activity. Every decision relies on everyone involved agreeing on it. In other words, if you don't want to accept him doing what he wants to do, you don't have to. If you refuse to accept it, and tell him you're not happy with it, there's nothing he can do to stop you. He shouldn't try to force any decision on you, since that's just bad RP etiquette.

Vice versa nothing entitles you to demand that any other nation conform to any aspect of your desiring, not even realism. What you can do is ignore and not interact with the player at all, this is the most misunderstood right of a roleplayer on NS in my honest opinion. If it's not realistic or heck even to your liking? Don't interact with it, as simple as that and yet so mindboggingly hard for some, I know I had difficulties with it.

That is true but I think most nations are giving him criticism so that he can have a better understanding on realism so that other players on this site will take him seriously and will be more willing to role play with him.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

And everyone else...

Vice versa nothing entitles you to demand that any other nation conform to any aspect of your desiring, not even realism. What you can do is ignore and not interact with the player at all, this is the most misunderstood right of a roleplayer on NS in my honest opinion. If it's not realistic or heck even to your liking? Don't interact with it, as simple as that and yet so mindboggingly hard for some, I know I had difficulties with it.

That is true but I think most nations are giving him criticism so that he can have a better understanding on realism so that other players on this site will take him seriously and will be more willing to role play with him.

Thing is, there's not a single diddly-squat you can do to force Dragomere to comply to any standard. If you don't like what he's doing? Quit it. NSMentors have tried helping him on and it didn't work, what makes you think you will be successful? If anyone should fail to enjoy themselves with an roleplay then the entire exercise becomes pointless, which this pushing and pulling on a poor fellow is quickly becoming.

[New Tyran]

That is true but I think most nations are giving him criticism so that he can have a better understanding on realism so that other players on this site will take him seriously and will be more willing to role play with him.

Thing is, there's not a single diddly-squat you can do to force Dragomere to comply to any standard. If you don't like what he's doing? Quit it. NSMentors have tried helping him on and it didn't work, what makes you think you will be successful?

I don't but that doesn't mean people still can't try. I think it's good that there are players still wanting to help him and give advice. Well not the ones who just rough him up.

[Esternial]

That is true but I think most nations are giving him criticism so that he can have a better understanding on realism so that other players on this site will take him seriously and will be more willing to role play with him.

Thing is, there's not a single diddly-squat you can do to force Dragomere to comply to any standard. If you don't like what he's doing? Quit it. NSMentors have tried helping him on and it didn't work, what makes you think you will be successful? If anyone should fail to enjoy themselves with an roleplay then the entire exercise becomes pointless, which this pushing and pulling on a poor fellow is quickly becoming.

Hmm...It might be better to learn via practise, not theory.

[Oaledonia]

Dragomere, might I recommend that you lower your exchange rate?

[Ammar]

Dragomere, might I recommend that you lower your exchange rate?

I do not think your currency is worth $10 when you have an unemployment rate is 8.08%.

[Themiclesia]

Dragomere, might I recommend that you lower your exchange rate?

Problem is that NS treats all currency like fiat currencies while it is not the case realistically.

I have a silver standard currency and each pound thereof is directly convertible into an actual pound of silver.

[Dragomere]

Here are my brand NEW military figures:

TOTALS
240,000,000 Population
2.5% in the Military
6,000,000 Military Members
2,700,000 Active Military Members

Land Forces
1,800,000 servicemen (720,000 Active Servicemen)
-750,000 National Guard (250,000 Active)
-750,000 Marines (250,000 Active)
-300,000 Soldiers (220,000 Active)
30,000 Other Weapons
-10,000 Battle Drone Tanks
-5,000 Artillery units
-10,000 Tanks
-5,000 Armored Personnel Carriers

Navy
3,000,000 Servicemen (1,500,000 Active Servicemen)
-1,000,000 Naval Officers (250,000 Active)
-250,000 Coast Guard (50,000 Active)
-1,000,000 Invasion Force (700,000 Active)
-250,000 Navy Seals (300,000 Active)
-500,000 Maintenance Officers (500,000 Active)
280 Ships
-5 Aircraft Carriers
-15 Nuclear Ships
-40 Destroyers
-50 Battleships
-70 Frigates
-30 Invasion Ships
-10 Submarines
-50 Coast Guard Ships

Air Force
1,200,000 Air Force Personnel (600,000 Active Personnel)
-500,000 Aircraft Personnel (250,000 Active)
-250,000 Maintenance Personnel (50,000 Active)
-250,000 Nuclear Personnel (250,000 Active)
-200,000 Invasion Force (50,000 Active)
500 Air Craft
-5 Sky Carriers
-45 Helicopters
-50 Sky Destroyers
-100 Stealth Bomber/Fighter Hybrid
-300 Stealth Fighters

Munitions
2,000 Chemical Weapons
-300 Bombs (200 ready for use)
-100 Short Range Missiles (100 ready for use)
-200 Medium Range Missiles (200 ready for use)
-400 Long Range Missiles (400 ready for use)
-1000 Global Range Missiles (500 ready for use)
3,000 Nuclear Weapons
-300 Bombs (300 ready for use)
-150 Short Range Missiles (150 ready for use)
-300 Medium Range Missiles (300 ready for use)
-650 Long Range Missiles (450 ready for use)
-1,600 Global Range Missiles (1,000 ready for use)
56 Solarus Defense Satellites (FT only)
500 Iron Dome Air Defense Systems
-100,000 Land-to-Air Missiles
100 Sea Wall Defense Systems
-20,000 Land-to-Sea Missiles

[The Akasha Colony]

Dragomere, might I recommend that you lower your exchange rate?

I do not think your currency is worth $10 when you have an unemployment rate is 8.08%.

Dragomere, might I recommend that you lower your exchange rate?

It just means his currency is so hilariously overvalued that foreign trade is functionally impossible, and his PPP adjustment would probably render him poorer than a villager in Africa.

[Ardchoille]

<snip> PD: I saw what you did with those poor children, you monster.

<snip> You did send those children to their deaths...

Yeah. You did. You just covered up the evidence that you sent them.

Off-topic spam. Cut it out.

Or you could be like me; have an elite (i. e. small) army.

He is probably going to God-Mod that... So no

*** Warned for flamebait ***. By what incredible logic is "mods have just been handing out bans for spamming this thread" code for "do come into it and spam some more"?
[EDIT] Don't advertise your RPs in another player's thread. Note also that if he doesn't choose to RP a war with you, it didn't happen.

THIS is how I appropriate my budget.

You made those statistics yourself, no?

This is a useful clarification of why there's all that red text above. If Dragomere chooses to use statistics others don't accept, those others don't have to roleplay with him. A Factbook helps those who do want to RP with him. Besides, nobody is going to take advice given to them in a condescending, bullying or hectoring manner. If a polite opinion along the lines of ''I see this as a bit of a problem. This is how you could fix it" has already been rejected, then drop it.

[Rodrania]

<snip> PD: I saw what you did with those poor children, you monster.

<snip> You did send those children to their deaths...

Yeah. You did. You just covered up the evidence that you sent them.

Off-topic spam. Cut it out.

He is probably going to God-Mod that... So no

*** Warned for flamebait ***. By what incredible logic is "mods have just been handing out bans for spamming this thread" code for "do come into it and spam some more"?
[EDIT] Don't advertise your RPs in another player's thread. Note also that if he doesn't choose to RP a war with you, it didn't happen.

You made those statistics yourself, no?

This is a useful clarification of why there's all that red text above. If Dragomere chooses to use statistics others don't accept, those others don't have to roleplay with him. A Factbook helps those who do want to RP with him. Besides, nobody is going to take advice given to them in a condescending, bullying or hectoring manner. If a polite opinion along the lines of ''I see this as a bit of a problem. This is how you could fix it" has already been rejected, then drop it.

The only thing i can say is sorry about that, it's just that Dragomete is getting me on my nerves,

[Esternial]

You made those statistics yourself, no?

This is a useful clarification of why there's all that red text above. If Dragomere chooses to use statistics others don't accept, those others don't have to roleplay with him. A Factbook helps those who do want to RP with him. Besides, nobody is going to take advice given to them in a condescending, bullying or hectoring manner. If a polite opinion along the lines of ''I see this as a bit of a problem. This is how you could fix it" has already been rejected, then drop it.

It was actually a question on my part. I didn't know you can make your own statistic via NSTracker, since I don't use it.

[Dragomere]

This is a useful clarification of why there's all that red text above. If Dragomere chooses to use statistics others don't accept, those others don't have to roleplay with him. A Factbook helps those who do want to RP with him. Besides, nobody is going to take advice given to them in a condescending, bullying or hectoring manner. If a polite opinion along the lines of ''I see this as a bit of a problem. This is how you could fix it" has already been rejected, then drop it.

It was actually a question on my part. I didn't know you can make your own statistic via NSTracker, since I don't use it.

Yes, You can set your own nation's budget to fit your nation, and you can fit you military to you nation's needs.

[Esternial]

It was actually a question on my part. I didn't know you can make your own statistic via NSTracker, since I don't use it.

Yes, You can set your own nation's budget to fit your nation, and you can fit you military to you nation's needs.

Some tinkering with NSTracker has revealed it to me, though I had to sign up.

Seems quite funny you can just set stuff to 0% or 100%

[Dragomere]

Yes, You can set your own nation's budget to fit your nation, and you can fit you military to you nation's needs.

Some tinkering with NSTracker has revealed it to me, though I had to sign up.

Seems quite funny you can just set stuff to 0% or 100%

I was surprised when I found that out too.

[Waldmania]

Here are my brand NEW military figures:

TOTALS
240,000,000 Population
2.5% in the Military
6,000,000 Military Members
2,700,000 Active Military Members

Land Forces
1,800,000 servicemen (720,000 Active Servicemen)
-750,000 National Guard (250,000 Active)
-750,000 Marines (250,000 Active)
-300,000 Soldiers (220,000 Active)
30,000 Other Weapons
-10,000 Battle Drone Tanks
-5,000 Artillery units
-10,000 Tanks
-5,000 Armored Personnel Carriers

Navy
3,000,000 Servicemen (1,500,000 Active Servicemen)
-1,000,000 Naval Officers (250,000 Active)
-250,000 Coast Guard (50,000 Active)
-1,000,000 Invasion Force (700,000 Active)
-250,000 Navy Seals (300,000 Active)
-500,000 Maintenance Officers (500,000 Active)
280 Ships
-5 Aircraft Carriers
-15 Nuclear Ships
-40 Destroyers
-50 Battleships
-70 Frigates
-30 Invasion Ships
-10 Submarines
-50 Coast Guard Ships

Air Force
1,200,000 Air Force Personnel (600,000 Active Personnel)
-500,000 Aircraft Personnel (250,000 Active)
-250,000 Maintenance Personnel (50,000 Active)
-250,000 Nuclear Personnel (250,000 Active)
-200,000 Invasion Force (50,000 Active)
500 Air Craft
-5 Sky Carriers
-45 Helicopters
-50 Sky Destroyers
-100 Stealth Bomber/Fighter Hybrid
-300 Stealth Fighters

Munitions
2,000 Chemical Weapons
-300 Bombs (200 ready for use)
-100 Short Range Missiles (100 ready for use)
-200 Medium Range Missiles (200 ready for use)
-400 Long Range Missiles (400 ready for use)
-1000 Global Range Missiles (500 ready for use)
3,000 Nuclear Weapons
-300 Bombs (300 ready for use)
-150 Short Range Missiles (150 ready for use)
-300 Medium Range Missiles (300 ready for use)
-650 Long Range Missiles (450 ready for use)
-1,600 Global Range Missiles (1,000 ready for use)
56 Solarus Defense Satellites (FT only)
500 Iron Dome Air Defense Systems
-100,000 Land-to-Air Missiles
100 Sea Wall Defense Systems
-20,000 Land-to-Sea Missiles

This is somewhat reasonable. although your munitions section seems to be a bit ridiculous still. 3,000 nublear weapons is just way too much, but at least you got rid of your biological weapons.