Main Military Weapon of Your Country. MMW A10

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

The wooden end isn't attached to the stock, it's a foregrip. Magazine as grip because fuck hands that's why.


Speaking of poor ergonomics...

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

For the second time in two pages:

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Russia wtf

EDIT: Apparently I missed some of it. It uses the mag as a grip for no real reason, and has a folding stock with a wooden bit on the end.

It's really not all that bad. Your AO-46 uses the magazine as a grip too.

[Puzikas]

No strong feelings either way to be quite honest. I didn't do enough hands on with it to develop much on it. Its magazine is unergonomic as fuck though.

Hmm, I see.

May I ask what made the magazine so unergonomic?

Its in the way.

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Its in the way.

How do you mean?

[Puzikas]

Its in the way.

How do you mean?

It gets in the way.

[Fordorsia]

The wooden end isn't attached to the stock, it's a foregrip. Magazine as grip because fuck hands that's why.

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Speaking of poor ergonomics...

Why the fuck?

[Crookfur]

The wooden end isn't attached to the stock, it's a foregrip. Magazine as grip because fuck hands that's why.

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Speaking of poor ergonomics...

Why the fuck?

California

[San-Silvacian]

The wooden end isn't attached to the stock, it's a foregrip. Magazine as grip because fuck hands that's why.

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Speaking of poor ergonomics...

Cali legal AR-15.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

I think I'd just as soon do without if I had to go through that much trouble.

[Fordorsia]

Why the fuck?

California

Let me guess. They think "assault spray grips" help accuracy when spraying from the hip?

[Tule]

I think I'd just as soon do without if I had to go through that much trouble.

I think that's the idea.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

How about instead of discussing the politics behind the lolbad gun we just poke fun at it?

I think I'd just as soon do without if I had to go through that much trouble.

I think that's the idea.

When I say do without, I mean substitute with an equally functional ban-legal Vepr or something along those lines.

[New Tsavon]

California

Let me guess. They think "assault spray grips" help accuracy when spraying from the hip?

Especially when spewing cop-killing metal jacket bullets from high-capacity childkilling assault clips.

[Crookfur]

California

Let me guess. They think "assault spray grips" help accuracy when spraying from the hip?

I claim no knowledge as to what the legislators in California belive thier restrictions actuallyy acheieve or why they choose the restrictiosn they did although i suspect it has as much to do with making life as difficult for people without going as far as to ban things in a way that might bring federal/constitutional lawsuits.


Anyway, dispell the thoughts of such stuff (and the threats such thoughts pose to the happy life of our favourite dog) by looking at the most tacticool bayonet you'll have seen in a while:

http://www.personaldefenseworld.com/201 ... e-bayonet/

[The Zeonic States]

I suppose i will replace the 94 with the 107 i really do like the 94 though.

It's just too damn expensive and complicated.

:/ Reminds of the Germans and the Tiger Series of Tanks.

[Benomia]

I suppose i will replace the 94 with the 107 i really do like the 94 though.

It's just too damn expensive and complicated.

:/ Reminds of the Germans and the Tiger Series of Tanks.

Also the mag is bent on the AN.

AK-107 is a lot like the AEK-971 but with more :kalash: and less wire stocks.

[Benomia]

The wooden end isn't attached to the stock, it's a foregrip. Magazine as grip because fuck hands that's why.

And fuck mags too, because that puts unneeded stress on the magazine, thus reducing reliability.

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Speaking of poor ergonomics...

wat

For the second time in two pages:

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Russia wtf

EDIT: Apparently I missed some of it. It uses the mag as a grip for no real reason, and has a folding stock with a wooden bit on the end.

It's really not all that bad. Your AO-46 uses the magazine as a grip too.

My AO-46?

I wish.

[Aqizithiuda]

Puzikas!
Do you have any opinions on the AO-27? Specifically it's cartridge.

Were I to make an intermediate flechette cartridge, that's what it would look like, more or less.

[The Zeonic States]

I suppose i will replace the 94 with the 107 i really do like the 94 though.

It's just too damn expensive and complicated.

:/ Reminds of the Germans and the Tiger Series of Tanks.

Also the mag is bent on the AN.

AK-107 is a lot like the AEK-971 but with more :kalash: and less wire stocks.

We actually fixed that issue on the Zeonic Varient we replaced the Feed Mech with that of a revamped TWIS system you know like what you would find in say a Mac10 or 11 right? And then attacted a box magazine its only issued to veteran personal anyway so they know how to handle a bit extra weight in a rifle that would come along with the box.

The only issue with the new feed system as far as i could tell is a minor firing pin issue due it using a higher recieve RPM rate then the AN.

So you might occasionally get a dry fire even if there is a round in the chamber if the timing was off a bit.

Still it was a way to work with the weapon and adapt it for usage it really is a immensely stable and apart from its requirements a fine gun.

And as would luck would have it we are mass importing 102s for arming the National Militia and Reserve corps with.

It wouldn't take much additional training to get people used to the feel of 107.

[Fischermann]

The only issue with the new feed system as far as i could tell is a minor firing pin issue due it using a higher recieve RPM rate then the AN.

Why would you want to achieve a higher RPM rate than the AN-94?

[Benomia]

And as would luck would have it we are mass importing 102s for arming the National Militia and Reserve corps with.

It wouldn't take much additional training to get people used to the feel of 107.

The -102 is (at least this is what wiki says it is) a -74M chambered for 5.56, mostly. The -107 is BARS.

If you choose the AK-108, you get what is basically an AK-107 firing 5.56 using the same mags the AK-102 uses. Of course, the 5.45 > 5.56, so the only reason to do this is logistics.

[The Zeonic States]

And as would luck would have it we are mass importing 102s for arming the National Militia and Reserve corps with.

It wouldn't take much additional training to get people used to the feel of 107.

The -102 is (at least this is what wiki says it is) a -74M chambered for 5.56, mostly. The -107 is BARS.

If you choose the AK-108, you get what is basically an AK-107 firing 5.56 using the same mags the AK-102 uses. Of course, the 5.45 > 5.56, so the only reason to do this is logistics.

Bleh and this is why we have seperate rifles for diffrent divisions in the Military.

Uniform Rifles cause issues such as this still its something to consider i suppose.

[Virana]

Of course, the 5.45 > 5.56, so the only reason to do this is logistics.

To be fair, from what I've heard, 5.56x45mm NATO and 5.45x39mm are almost the exact same in terms of performance. This is the first time someone has said one of them is actually superior to the other.

[Benomia]

Of course, the 5.45 > 5.56, so the only reason to do this is logistics.

To be fair, from what I've heard, 5.56x45mm NATO and 5.45x39mm are almost the exact same in terms of performance. This is the first time someone has said one of them is actually superior to the other.

5.45 has less recoil. If they're the same ballisticly, the 5.45 has that advantage.

Also, it's lighter/smaller. So more rounds can be carried.

[The Zeonic States]

The only issue with the new feed system as far as i could tell is a minor firing pin issue due it using a higher recieve RPM rate then the AN.

Why would you want to achieve a higher RPM rate than the AN-94?

Why? its an Additional firerate for veteran soldiers.

These things were going to Speical Forces Operatives, not raw recuirts and the ability to direct even more fire then what a standard rifle can produce is something considerable.

You can have a handful of squads answering with a Battlions worth of firepower.

Still this was as i said earlier a mere side effect of taking an existing recieve and firing system from what basically is a Machine Pistol. Still it solved a fairly major issue with the Weapon; You could merely report the ejector and resize the Magazines but thats a major logistical issue to consider when you think about the volume we were building the things in.

Made more sense just to recraft them to work.