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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue May 28, 2013 12:58 pm

New Harvest wrote:I think I might scrap the AK, since it is just not good enough, so I've restarted designing it, it will look somewhat like an AK, one of the more recent ak100 series variants.

anyway I have planned:

- bullpup configuration
- Built in rail system mounted on the upper receiver.
- peep sight, and the front sight can be folded down to not interfere with optics.
- L/R selective ejection system.
- chambered for 5.62x39 rounds (correct me if I'm wrong) or 7.62xsomething (Tell me which it is, it's russian not NATO) depending on the barrel, which can be easily and quickly changed, or maybe caseless ammo instead.
- rail uner the barel as to mount grenade launcher or forward grip, maybe I'll include a flash hider/ forward grip like on the OC-14 Groza.
- 30 round box mag.
- polymer construction.
- chrome lined bore which has 4 right hand rifle grooves, interchangeable lengths, 16, 18, 20? (modularity FTW)
- rotating bolt.
- can mount a undeside foldable stock attatchment if the user finds the gun to short, you shall see.

I need more reccomendations, it has to be modern.

Use 7.62x45 for Chech lolz
you might be better off using folding battle sights if you plan on issuing optics on a large scale
you might want to look into some blowback systems, simply for the sake of rotating bolt being done to death

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Postby Coltarin » Tue May 28, 2013 1:17 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:I am most pleased with the increase in lineart

Unrelated:

But I learned to scope from you!
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Postby Tule » Tue May 28, 2013 1:17 pm

New Harvest wrote:I think I might scrap the AK, since it is just not good enough, so I've restarted designing it, it will look somewhat like an AK, one of the more recent ak100 series variants.

anyway I have planned:

- bullpup configuration
- Built in rail system mounted on the upper receiver.
- peep sight, and the front sight can be folded down to not interfere with optics.
- L/R selective ejection system.
- chambered for 5.62x39 rounds (correct me if I'm wrong) or 7.62xsomething (Tell me which it is, it's russian not NATO) depending on the barrel, which can be easily and quickly changed, or maybe caseless ammo instead.
- rail uner the barel as to mount grenade launcher or forward grip, maybe I'll include a flash hider/ forward grip like on the OC-14 Groza.
- 30 round box mag.
- polymer construction.
- chrome lined bore which has 4 right hand rifle grooves, interchangeable lengths, 16, 18, 20? (modularity FTW)
- rotating bolt.
- can mount a undeside foldable stock attatchment if the user finds the gun to short, you shall see.

I need more reccomendations, it has to be modern.


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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue May 28, 2013 1:18 pm

New Harvest wrote:
Thalis wrote:
- 'kay
- 'kay
- If you're going to have a rail system, why not just use RIS-attached BUIS?
- how is that going to work?
- 5.45x39 or 7.62x39? And using caseless ammo would change the design *radically*, so think about that
- 'kay
- 'kay
- 'kay
- 'kay, depends on the round you're firing and what you want to do with it
- 'kay
- On a bullpup rifle? Methinks not...

The extension stock is a mounted above the trigger, and extends all away back across the gun to the stock, it is about a 3cm extension, which is about the same as a adjustable stock attachment, it is for when using bulky armor and such, since a common problem with bullpup is the stock not being too comfortable with armor, it also helps if you think the muzzle flash is to close to your face on shortened barrel versions, also the L/R ejections is found on another gun, which is not bullpup though, with the flick of a switch the cases shall eject out a different side, so L and R handers can use it, it also helps if the soldier needs to shoot round of a corner using his left hand, which is uncommon but still..


Forget the stock extension, and use detachable butt pads of different thicknesses to do the same job. It will work much better.

Don't bother with the 18" barrel version, either, or caseless ammo. The 18" barrel serves no purpose, and you don't have sufficient knowledge or experience to do caseless yet. Stick to the 5.45x39 and 7.62x39mm, or look at some of the Western alternatives.
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Postby Benomia » Tue May 28, 2013 1:19 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:The AN-94 does not share the AK sights.

Beno plays CoD.... They put rear AK sights on a rail fro the AN-94....It's dumb as shit
Course The AN-94 sights Would probably be a little confining at those ranges. Just like why they use the wrong sights on about half of the guns is to optimize them for a range of abut 25-30m maximum.
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I was confusing, in that post, the AN-94 with the AEK-971, which BF tells me has similar rear sights to the AK.
Didn't know the AN was in a CoD.
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Postby Benomia » Tue May 28, 2013 1:20 pm

New Harvest wrote:
Benomia wrote:
I can't see why not. But a bullpup FG42 would be better.

what about a bullpup sturmgewehr?


No.

My main gripe with bullpups is that that magazine is bound to get in the way. the FG42 is side-fed (like a belt fed weapon but it's mag fed), so there's be no reason not to 'pup it.

EDIT: Well, technically speaking the FG42 is bullpup, considering the action is behind the actual trigger, if not the grip.
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Postby Black Hand » Tue May 28, 2013 1:40 pm

Benomia wrote:
Black Hand wrote:Beno plays CoD.... They put rear AK sights on a rail fro the AN-94....It's dumb as shit
Course The AN-94 sights Would probably be a little confining at those ranges. Just like why they use the wrong sights on about half of the guns is to optimize them for a range of abut 25-30m maximum.
Additional Edit: who wrote my bio? I never did ask....


I was confusing, in that post, the AN-94 with the AEK-971, which BF tells me has similar rear sights to the AK.
Didn't know the AN was in a CoD.

BF is good with this Stuff you are wrong. CoD is also wrong (my brother plays it a lot so i play with him on occasion)
AEK-971
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AN-94
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AK-74
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An-94
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"Ak-47"
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Postby Premislyd » Tue May 28, 2013 1:42 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Benomia wrote:
I was confusing, in that post, the AN-94 with the AEK-971, which BF tells me has similar rear sights to the AK.
Didn't know the AN was in a CoD.

BF is good with this Stuff you are wrong.
AEK-971
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AK-74
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An-94
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Postby Risen Britannia » Tue May 28, 2013 1:45 pm

Registug wrote:drawing circles from side-on, Arby

that's why
Hey! i can draw red dot sights
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New Harvest wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:I am most pleased with the increase in lineart

Unrelated:

The gun is beautiful and is extremely detailed, the scope is shit.

maybe increase the size, raise it abit higher from the rails, and make each end thingy much larger.

Thanks. I never want to make the scope too large, but then it ends up looking "odd"
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But I learned to scope from you!
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Postby Black Hand » Tue May 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Black Hand wrote:BF is good with this Stuff you are wrong.
AEK-971
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AN-94
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AK-74
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An-94
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"Ak-47"
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Yeah not a good idea though BF and ARMA are better than most...
And I like how the AN-94's sights look and besides unlike the AK they are where they belong (that is the only thing i don't like about AK's)
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Postby Benomia » Tue May 28, 2013 1:48 pm

Black Hand wrote:
Benomia wrote:
I was confusing, in that post, the AN-94 with the AEK-971, which BF tells me has similar rear sights to the AK.
Didn't know the AN was in a CoD.

BF is good with this Stuff you are wrong. CoD is also wrong (my brother plays it a lot so i play with him on occasion)


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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:28 pm

Hmph. No comment on the 5.45x39mm spam can. Okay, time to go make the 7.62x54mmR version.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue May 28, 2013 2:30 pm

Saphirasia wrote:Hmph. No comment on the 5.45x39mm spam can. Okay, time to go make the 7.62x54mmR version.

Cut out the middle man. Go right for the 14.5mm.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Saphirasia wrote:Hmph. No comment on the 5.45x39mm spam can. Okay, time to go make the 7.62x54mmR version.

Cut out the middle man. Go right for the 14.5mm.

Actually, I use 15.2, not 14.5. And do rounds of that size still come in the vacuum-packed tins?
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Soxastan wrote:...then how did you get 1TB of pony in about an hour, maybe less?

I have fast hands.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue May 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Saphirasia wrote:Hmph. No comment on the 5.45x39mm spam can. Okay, time to go make the 7.62x54mmR version.

Not sure about the sardine-style bendy lid.
RL Russian spam cans just cut the entire lid off and leave it off.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:35 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Saphirasia wrote:Hmph. No comment on the 5.45x39mm spam can. Okay, time to go make the 7.62x54mmR version.

Not sure about the sardine-style bendy lid.
RL Russian spam cans just cut the entire lid off and leave it off.

I left it there to show that, indeed, this container had a lid. Otherwise, yes, it comes off immediately after it's opened.
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Saphirasia wrote:
Soxastan wrote:...then how did you get 1TB of pony in about an hour, maybe less?

I have fast hands.

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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue May 28, 2013 2:38 pm

OK I may be slow But are you guy;s talking about Ammo can's or can's of Spam?
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue May 28, 2013 2:38 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:OK I may be slow But are you guy;s talking about Ammo can's or can's of Spam?

Ammo cans.
Which transform to spam, because ammunition.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Tue May 28, 2013 2:39 pm

Spam cans of ammo.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:39 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:OK I may be slow But are you guy;s talking about Ammo can's or can's of Spam?

Cans of ammo that look like cans of Spam.
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Soxastan wrote:...then how did you get 1TB of pony in about an hour, maybe less?

I have fast hands.

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Postby Kalumba » Tue May 28, 2013 2:39 pm

Repost of all Kalumban weapons that have been phased out of service officially, but still see limited use:
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Image .455 Service Pistol, in use with all service branches

Image 7.62mm AK/FAL inspired battle rifle, still issued to territorials, police and Guard Force

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Image Courtesy of Ulfr-Reich, 400/450 double rifle issued to border guards, originally bespoke pieces these were mass produced to provide troops with a common calibre
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Tue May 28, 2013 2:40 pm

Saphirasia wrote:
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Not sure about the sardine-style bendy lid.
RL Russian spam cans just cut the entire lid off and leave it off.

I left it there to show that, indeed, this container had a lid. Otherwise, yes, it comes off immediately after it's opened.

Even so, the RL examples have a rather stiff and resistant-looking lid.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Tue May 28, 2013 2:40 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:OK I may be slow But are you guy;s talking about Ammo can's or can's of Spam?

Ammo cans.
Which transform to spam, because ammunition.


Okay then... How big would a Spam can be for the 10x90...
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Postby Fordorsia » Tue May 28, 2013 2:40 pm

I take it most of the regulars know about my FALcoholism. Knowing what I like in a rifle, what would be a decent battle rifle to replace my current one (which is based on the FN FAL)?

Know that my current rifle in in service in 2013 so this replacement battle rifle would need to be rather modern. It's an old platform that can no longer be improved.

Any suggestions?

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Postby Crookfur » Tue May 28, 2013 2:41 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:OK I may be slow But are you guy;s talking about Ammo can's or can's of Spam?


large sealed can sof ammo that you open with a tin opener as you would with a can of chopped ham and pork (spam):

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