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Postby Fordorsia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:31 am

Benomia wrote:No.
A small weapon firing an intermediate round is just a small assault rifle. Would you call the AKMSU a PDW? No, it's a subcarbine.


I would.
If it's used for compact self defense, then it's a personal defense weapon, regardless of it's caliber. Fucking hell, Beno. The clue is in the name.

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Postby Black Hand » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:34 am

Fordorsia wrote:
Benomia wrote:No.
A small weapon firing an intermediate round is just a small assault rifle. Would you call the AKMSU a PDW? No, it's a subcarbine.


I would.
If it's used for compact self defense, then it's a personal defense weapon, regardless of it's caliber. Fucking hell, Beno. The clue is in the name.

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I like Fordy PDW but where's the magazine?
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Postby New Tsavon » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:35 am

Black Hand wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
I would.
If it's used for compact self defense, then it's a personal defense weapon, regardless of it's caliber. Fucking hell, Beno. The clue is in the name.

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I like Fordy PDW but where's the magazine?

Its top-loading, like the P90.
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Postby Black Hand » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:37 am

New Tsavon wrote:
Black Hand wrote:I like Fordy PDW but where's the magazine?

Its top-loading, like the P90.

Ahhh...... I don't like that system though Your deign is very good.
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Postby Czechovelkov » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:39 am

Czechovelkov wrote:
Benomia wrote:
wat
no

PDWs use rifle-caliber rounds that are very short. See my list above. SMGs use pistol cartridges, which are big and short.

Blame Puzikas for my misinformation, I probably just forgot.

Slightly Relevant:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/96702612/@ ... tostrweam/
Final product going into my Storefront before it's open fo' business. Caseless ammo in 52rn whateverit'scalledmag and it is all polymer and stuff, do not know what action to use and stuff like that, I need help.

Beno you can get an image of this on here if you like

Is of fix.

What do you guys think of it?
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Postby Black Hand » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:42 am

Czechovelkov wrote:
Czechovelkov wrote:Blame Puzikas for my misinformation, I probably just forgot.

Slightly Relevant:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/96702612/@ ... tostrweam/
Final product going into my Storefront before it's open fo' business. Caseless ammo in 52rn whateverit'scalledmag and it is all polymer and stuff, do not know what action to use and stuff like that, I need help.

Beno you can get an image of this on here if you like

Is of fix.

What do you guys think of it?

Is not of fix.
Just post pics directly.....
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Postby Czechovelkov » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:45 am

this is fucking irritating.

this may work:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/96702612@N ... otostream/

I cannot post pics directly or I would, unless you either buy me a new tablet, or an entire pc, or design copy and paste for the x360 browser.
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Postby Black Hand » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:47 am

Czechovelkov wrote:this is fucking irritating.

this may work:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/96702612@N ... otostream/

I cannot post pics directly or I would, unless you either buy me a new tablet, or an entire pc, or design copy and paste for the x360 browser.

Worked this time.
And yeah looks pretty good.
I'm not a fan of horizontal mags still but the weapon looks good.
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Postby Czechovelkov » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:56 am

Black Hand wrote:
Czechovelkov wrote:this is fucking irritating.

this may work:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/96702612@N ... otostream/

I cannot post pics directly or I would, unless you either buy me a new tablet, or an entire pc, or design copy and paste for the x360 browser.

Worked this time.
And yeah looks pretty good.
I'm not a fan of horizontal mags still but the weapon looks good.

I do not really like them either, but they looked alright on this, they beat a box mage when it comes to SMG's, anyway, thanks.

Time for me to put this on my storefront :D
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Postby A Hooloovoo » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:14 pm

Benomia wrote:
Czechovelkov wrote:A PDW uses AR level rounds, or it would be an SMG, read Puzikas's SMG section in his sig.


wat
no

PDWs use rifle-caliber rounds that are very short. See my list above. SMGs use pistol cartridges, which are big and short.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magpul_PDR

Edit: but yes, most PDWs use proprietary intermediate rounds
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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:28 pm

A Hooloovoo wrote:
Benomia wrote:
wat
no

PDWs use rifle-caliber rounds that are very short. See my list above. SMGs use pistol cartridges, which are big and short.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magpul_PDR


Is a bullpup assault rifle. Your point?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:32 pm

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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:36 pm

Here's what you want to do, Czech.
Right click on the picture (or w/e the XB equiv is) and hit "Original". Then either right click and hit "open pic in new tab" or just drag the picture to the top. Copy the URL and you're set.

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Postby Sevvania » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:37 pm

Benomia wrote:


Is a bullpup assault rifle. Your point?

"The PDR is one of the few personal defense weapons to use a standard caliber." - Fist sentence of second paragraph
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Postby Czechovelkov » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:39 pm

viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=6&t=246441&p=15026433#p15026433

My storefront. Zaleznych Arms. Check it out!

EDIT: Please give me some criticism, I believe it is visually simple and neat, it just needs more content, what I really want is new ideas, I also need some to predict the length of all of my weapons. :L
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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:40 pm

Czechovelkov wrote:Caseless ammo in 52rn whateverit'scalledmag and it is all polymer and stuff, do not know what action to use and stuff like that, I need help.



The correct term is "horizontal magazine".

Anyway, with caseless automatic weapons you'd need a moving chamber. Flaw of CLA. We have a Secretary of Patents here at MMW, and he'll probably give you a couple patents to look at for two possible systems to use.
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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:41 pm

Sevvania wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Is a bullpup assault rifle. Your point?

"The PDR is one of the few personal defense weapons to use a standard caliber."


[Citation Needed]
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:41 pm

Benomia wrote:
Czechovelkov wrote:Caseless ammo in 52rn whateverit'scalledmag and it is all polymer and stuff, do not know what action to use and stuff like that, I need help.



The correct term is "horizontal magazine".

Anyway, with caseless automatic weapons you'd need a moving chamber. Flaw of CLA. We have a Secretary of Patents here at MMW, and he'll probably give you a couple patents to look at for two possible systems to use.


Wait wait wait... We do?
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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:42 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Benomia wrote:

The correct term is "horizontal magazine".

Anyway, with caseless automatic weapons you'd need a moving chamber. Flaw of CLA. We have a Secretary of Patents here at MMW, and he'll probably give you a couple patents to look at for two possible systems to use.


Wait wait wait... We do?


Yeah. You...haven't noticed?
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:44 pm

Benomia wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Wait wait wait... We do?


Yeah. You...haven't noticed?


No I have been a Little bit pre occupied.
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Postby Sevvania » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:47 pm

Benomia wrote:
Sevvania wrote:"The PDR is one of the few personal defense weapons to use a standard caliber."


[Citation Needed]

"A personal defense weapon (PDW) is a compact semi-automatic or fully automatic firearm similar in most respects to a submachine gun, but firing a (often proprietary) rifle round, giving a PDW better range, accuracy and armor-penetrating capability than submachine guns, which fire pistol-caliber cartridges." - Personal Defense Weapon, Wikipedia

Often. That is to say, not always. The Magpul PDR is also listed on the PDW page.
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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:50 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Yeah. You...haven't noticed?


No I have been a Little bit pre occupied.

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Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
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Postby Ea90 » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:50 pm

@Beano: The PDR is a personal defence weapon and its designed to fill the exact same role as any other personal defence weapon.

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Postby Czechovelkov » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:51 pm

Czechovelkov wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?ns=1&f=6&t=246441&p=15026433#p15026433

My storefront. Zaleznych Arms. Check it out!

EDIT: Please give me some criticism, I believe it is visually simple and neat, it just needs more content, what I really want is new ideas, I also need some to predict the length of all of my weapons. :L
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Postby Benomia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:53 pm

Sevvania wrote:
Benomia wrote:
[Citation Needed]

"A personal defense weapon (PDW) is a compact semi-automatic or fully automatic firearm similar in most respects to a submachine gun, but firing a (often proprietary) rifle round, giving a PDW better range, accuracy and armor-penetrating capability than submachine guns, which fire pistol-caliber cartridges." - Personal Defense Weapon, Wikipedia

Often. That is to say, not always. The Magpul PDR is also listed on the PDW page.


Wikipedia is not a usable source for Wikipedia.
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