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Postby Risen Britannia » Tue May 28, 2013 8:10 am

I am most pleased with the increase in lineart

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Postby Registug » Tue May 28, 2013 8:11 am

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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Tue May 28, 2013 8:25 am

Rich and Corporations wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
That would be fine. Using the LMG version, which you proposed, would not.

Are Dedicated Marksman even snipers? I mean, they have sniper training, but technically they aren't.

To the average grunt, the difference doesn't matter much in a firefight. What matters most would be good shot placement.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 8:35 am

So. I deliver.

Firstly, here's the different ammo types.

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And finally, for glory...

Orussian-pattern SPEHM CANZ!

12 5.45x39mm rounds per box, 24 boxes per can.
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Postby New Harvest » Tue May 28, 2013 8:48 am

Nua Corda wrote:
New Harvest wrote:Barrel exploding is not an option :( and in the future guns are going to be using 6.36mm ammo, to penetrte the new personal armor systems we're seeing emerge, or we will be using flechette's or mini APFSDS rounds.

I've found a way to solve most of the caseless ammo's problems, brass casing to deal with the 'cook off' problem, H&K's special propellant which they used so it is heat resistant, and keeping them plastic casings, so Caseless ammo is an option for my new AK74 based bullpup, I might also solve the problems associated witha bullpup AR too.


Barrel explosion has nothing to do with polymers.

Actually, any number of diameters will penetrate ballistic armor, even hilariously large calibers like 9mm.

If its got plastic or brass casings, it's not caseless. Also, caseless ammo will not work in an AK action. It requires a pushthrough action due to the delicacy of the cartridges.

The problem with a bullpup AR is ridiculous LoP, which really can't be solved without seriously modifying the action to the point that its no longer an AR.

looks like caseless ammo is no longer an option :( but it shall have:

5.39x62? (cannot remember) cartridge.
BARS recoil reduction system.
Polymer construction.
L/R selective ejection system?
increased barrel length due to it's bullpup configuration, not sure how much.
31 round box mag.
dual rails.
high modularity.
possibly new iron sights.

I need more reccomendations, I've been doing research, and I'm going to do some more.
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Postby Nua Corda » Tue May 28, 2013 8:52 am

New Harvest wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
Barrel explosion has nothing to do with polymers.

Actually, any number of diameters will penetrate ballistic armor, even hilariously large calibers like 9mm.

If its got plastic or brass casings, it's not caseless. Also, caseless ammo will not work in an AK action. It requires a pushthrough action due to the delicacy of the cartridges.

The problem with a bullpup AR is ridiculous LoP, which really can't be solved without seriously modifying the action to the point that its no longer an AR.

looks like caseless ammo is no longer an option :( but it shall have:

5.39x62? (cannot remember) cartridge.
BARS recoil reduction system.
Polymer construction.
L/R selective ejection system?
increased barrel length due to it's bullpup configuration, not sure how much.
31 round box mag.
dual rails.
high modularity.
possibly new iron sights.

I need more reccomendations, I've been doing research, and I'm going to do some more.


5.45x39mm?
Good
Good
Probably impossible with an AK
Good
Why 31? Hipsterism?
What kind of variants would you be thinking, then?
I'd suggest diopter drum or Ljungman AG42 style
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Postby New Harvest » Tue May 28, 2013 8:57 am

Also I've read something today, and thats where I got the brass casing thing for caseless ammo, I'm not really sure but it was something to do with a brass casing absorbing the heat so it does not 'cook-off'

also yes thats the cartridge size I was looking for, and 31 because it beats 30.. my logic is fu*****, and I'll scrap L/R ejection, I'll look into rails and iron sights some more..
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 28, 2013 8:59 am

30+1 possible.

30 is good because you can reload your magazines with 2 15-round or three 10-round charger clips.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 9:00 am

New Harvest wrote:and 31 because it beats 30.

32 for binary master race glory.
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Soxastan wrote:...then how did you get 1TB of pony in about an hour, maybe less?

I have fast hands.

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Postby Ea90 » Tue May 28, 2013 9:01 am

New Harvest wrote:Also I've read something today, and thats where I got the brass casing thing for caseless ammo, I'm not really sure but it was something to do with a brass casing absorbing the heat so it does not 'cook-off'

but...
the whole point of caseless ammo is that there is no case as such (it's just a solid block of propellant around the bullet).

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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Tue May 28, 2013 9:02 am

San-Silvacian wrote:30+1 possible.

30 is good because you can reload your magazines with 2 15-round or three 10-round charger clips.

Or six 5-rounders if QM is a veritable jackass.
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Postby Sumarma » Tue May 28, 2013 9:07 am

The Army of Sumarma currently issues three different primary weapons to its soldiers.

The first is the PKP 6P41 machine gun. Also known as the "Pecheneg", this variant of the PKP was first introduced into the military in 2005, replacing the older M60 machine gun. Unlike the M60, the PKP 6P41 fired the 7.56mm x 56mm round, instead of the 7.56mm x 51mm NATO round, making it slightly more powerful. The PKP also has a higher rate of fire( up to 800 RPM in comparison to the M60s maximum of 650 RPM), and weighs less than the M60. However, it has a muzzle velocity and effective range, along with a longer barrel and higher recoil. The M60 was better suited for longer ranges, but the Sumarman army was better suited to mobility and closer range fighting in urban and forested environments and the M60 was. As a result, the lighter, faster firing PKP 6P41 became the new LMG of the Sumarman Armed Forces.

The second weapon is the MP7, replacing the Mp5. While both were produced by Heckler & Kock, the MP5 was older and fired the standard 9x19 parabellum round, which was weaker than the Mp7's 4.6 x 30mm round. The Mp7 also had lower recoil, amounting in hire ranges and better controllability. Critics argued that the weapon lost out on close range capability, which while being true, was made up for by the standard issued Glock machine pistols, which could be fired both at semi-auto and fully automatic.

There is no standard issue rifle as the M14, AK-74M, G36C, and the M4A1 are all available to soldiers based on their skill level with each weapon and their personal preference.

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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Tue May 28, 2013 9:11 am

Sumarma wrote:The Army of Sumarma currently issues three different primary weapons to its soldiers.

The first is the PKP 6P41 machine gun. Also known as the "Pecheneg", this variant of the PKP was first introduced into the military in 2005, replacing the older M60 machine gun. Unlike the M60, the PKP 6P41 fired the 7.56mm x 56mm7.62x54mmR round, instead of the 7.5662mm x 51mm NATO round, making it slightly more powerful. The PKP also has a higher rate of fire( up to 800 RPM in comparison to the M60s maximum of 650 RPM), and weighs less than the M60. However, it has a muzzle velocity (you don't say?) and effective range (of what?), along with a longer barrel and higher recoil. The M60 was better suited for longer ranges, but the Sumarman army was better suited to mobility and closer range fighting in urban and forested environments and the M60 was. As a result, the lighter, faster firing PKP 6P41 became the new LMG of the Sumarman Armed Forces.

The second weapon is the MP7, replacing the Mp5. While both were produced by Heckler & Kock, the MP5 was older and fired the standard 9x19 pParabellum round, which was weaker than the MpP7's 4.6 x 30mm round. The MpP7 also had lower recoil, amounting in hire ranges and better controllability. Critics argued that the weapon lost out on close range capability, which while being true, was made up for by the standard issued Glock machine pistols (by which you mean the G18), which could be fired both at semi-auto and fully automatic.

There is no standard issue rifle as the M14 (7.62 NATO), AK-74M (5.45x39mm Soviet), G36C, and the M4A1 (both 5.56x45 NATO) are all available to soldiers based on their skill level with each weapon and their personal preference.

Either you reek of the Modern Warfare trilogy or your logistics personnel are, quite frankly, always high.

And what's with 7.56? The Pecheneg is chambered in 7.62 Tsarist (7.62x54mmR) while the M60 is in 7.62 NATO.
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Postby Saphirasia » Tue May 28, 2013 9:11 am

Sumarma wrote:
The Army of Sumarma currently issues three different primary weapons to its soldiers.

The first is the PKP 6P41 machine gun. Also known as the "Pecheneg", this variant of the PKP was first introduced into the military in 2005, replacing the older M60 machine gun. Unlike the M60, the PKP 6P41 fired the 7.56mm x 56mm round, instead of the 7.56mm x 51mm NATO round, making it slightly more powerful. The PKP also has a higher rate of fire( up to 800 RPM in comparison to the M60s maximum of 650 RPM), and weighs less than the M60. However, it has a muzzle velocity and effective range, along with a longer barrel and higher recoil. The M60 was better suited for longer ranges, but the Sumarman army was better suited to mobility and closer range fighting in urban and forested environments and the M60 was. As a result, the lighter, faster firing PKP 6P41 became the new LMG of the Sumarman Armed Forces.

The second weapon is the MP7, replacing the Mp5. While both were produced by Heckler & Kock, the MP5 was older and fired the standard 9x19 parabellum round, which was weaker than the Mp7's 4.6 x 30mm round. The Mp7 also had lower recoil, amounting in hire ranges and better controllability. Critics argued that the weapon lost out on close range capability, which while being true, was made up for by the standard issued Glock machine pistols, which could be fired both at semi-auto and fully automatic.

There is no standard issue rifle as the M14, AK-74M, G36C, and the M4A1 are all available to soldiers based on their skill level with each weapon and their personal preference.

Yikes. Logistics is going to be a bitch.
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I have fast hands.

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Postby New Harvest » Tue May 28, 2013 9:30 am

I think I might scrap the AK, since it is just not good enough, so I've restarted designing it, it will look somewhat like an AK, one of the more recent ak100 series variants.

anyway I have planned:

- bullpup configuration
- Built in rail system mounted on the upper receiver.
- peep sight, and the front sight can be folded down to not interfere with optics.
- L/R selective ejection system.
- chambered for 5.62x39 rounds (correct me if I'm wrong) or 7.62xsomething (Tell me which it is, it's russian not NATO) depending on the barrel, which can be easily and quickly changed, or maybe caseless ammo instead.
- rail uner the barel as to mount grenade launcher or forward grip, maybe I'll include a flash hider/ forward grip like on the OC-14 Groza.
- 30 round box mag.
- polymer construction.
- chrome lined bore which has 4 right hand rifle grooves, interchangeable lengths, 16, 18, 20? (modularity FTW)
- rotating bolt.
- can mount a undeside foldable stock attatchment if the user finds the gun to short, you shall see.

I need more reccomendations, it has to be modern.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue May 28, 2013 9:30 am

Sumarma wrote:The Army of Sumarma currently issues three different primary weapons to its soldiers.

The first is the PKP 6P41 machine gun. Also known as the "Pecheneg", this variant of the PKP was first introduced into the military in 2005, replacing the older M60 machine gun. Unlike the M60, the PKP 6P41 fired the 7.56mm x 56mm round, instead of the 7.56mm x 51mm NATO round, making it slightly more powerful. The PKP also has a higher rate of fire( up to 800 RPM in comparison to the M60s maximum of 650 RPM), and weighs less than the M60. However, it has a muzzle velocity and effective range, along with a longer barrel and higher recoil. The M60 was better suited for longer ranges, but the Sumarman army was better suited to mobility and closer range fighting in urban and forested environments and the M60 was. As a result, the lighter, faster firing PKP 6P41 became the new LMG of the Sumarman Armed Forces.

The second weapon is the MP7, replacing the Mp5. While both were produced by Heckler & Kock, the MP5 was older and fired the standard 9x19 parabellum round, which was weaker than the Mp7's 4.6 x 30mm round. The Mp7 also had lower recoil, amounting in hire ranges and better controllability. Critics argued that the weapon lost out on close range capability, which while being true, was made up for by the standard issued Glock machine pistols, which could be fired both at semi-auto and fully automatic.

There is no standard issue rifle as the M14, AK-74M, G36C, and the M4A1 are all available to soldiers based on their skill level with each weapon and their personal preference.


logistics. lrn 2 them.

Also 9x19mm is still a good round and is no way 'weaker' than the little 4.6x30mm round. Just use an overpressure 9mm round.
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Postby Ea90 » Tue May 28, 2013 9:31 am

It's 5.45x39mm, not 5.62 and 7.62x54R and 7.62x39 are russian, 7.62x51 is nato

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Postby Thalis » Tue May 28, 2013 9:38 am

New Harvest wrote:I think I might scrap the AK, since it is just not good enough, so I've restarted designing it, it will look somewhat like an AK, one of the more recent ak100 series variants.

anyway I have planned:

- bullpup configuration
- Built in rail system mounted on the upper receiver.
- peep sight, and the front sight can be folded down to not interfere with optics.
- L/R selective ejection system.
- chambered for 5.62x39 rounds (correct me if I'm wrong) or 7.62xsomething (Tell me which it is, it's russian not NATO) depending on the barrel, which can be easily and quickly changed, or maybe caseless ammo instead.
- rail uner the barel as to mount grenade launcher or forward grip, maybe I'll include a flash hider/ forward grip like on the OC-14 Groza.
- 30 round box mag.
- polymer construction.
- chrome lined bore which has 4 right hand rifle grooves, interchangeable lengths, 16, 18, 20? (modularity FTW)
- rotating bolt.
- can mount a undeside foldable stock attatchment if the user finds the gun to short, you shall see.

I need more reccomendations, it has to be modern.


- 'kay
- 'kay
- If you're going to have a rail system, why not just use RIS-attached BUIS?
- how is that going to work?
- 5.45x39 or 7.62x39? And using caseless ammo would change the design *radically*, so think about that
- 'kay
- 'kay
- 'kay
- 'kay, depends on the round you're firing and what you want to do with it
- 'kay
- On a bullpup rifle? Methinks not...
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Postby Ulfr-Reich » Tue May 28, 2013 9:48 am

Guys, I finished work on Kalumba's double rifle.


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Postby Anacasppia » Tue May 28, 2013 10:00 am

Looking closer, the logistics there is not that bad if one does not take into account the fact that he has multiple service rifles chambered in different cartridges. PDW in PDW round, GPMG in battle rifle round, and MMW in intermediate round is actually quite common.
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Tue May 28, 2013 10:02 am

Anacasppia wrote:Looking closer, the logistics there is not that bad if one does not take into account the fact that he has multiple service rifles chambered in different cartridges. PDW in PDW round, GPMG in battle rifle round, and MMW in intermediate round is actually quite common.

I'm thinking that the lack of standardization is what's making the logistics look bad.
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Postby New Harvest » Tue May 28, 2013 10:16 am

Thalis wrote:
New Harvest wrote:I think I might scrap the AK, since it is just not good enough, so I've restarted designing it, it will look somewhat like an AK, one of the more recent ak100 series variants.

anyway I have planned:

- bullpup configuration
- Built in rail system mounted on the upper receiver.
- peep sight, and the front sight can be folded down to not interfere with optics.
- L/R selective ejection system.
- chambered for 5.62x39 rounds (correct me if I'm wrong) or 7.62xsomething (Tell me which it is, it's russian not NATO) depending on the barrel, which can be easily and quickly changed, or maybe caseless ammo instead.
- rail uner the barel as to mount grenade launcher or forward grip, maybe I'll include a flash hider/ forward grip like on the OC-14 Groza.
- 30 round box mag.
- polymer construction.
- chrome lined bore which has 4 right hand rifle grooves, interchangeable lengths, 16, 18, 20? (modularity FTW)
- rotating bolt.
- can mount a undeside foldable stock attatchment if the user finds the gun to short, you shall see.

I need more reccomendations, it has to be modern.


- 'kay
- 'kay
- If you're going to have a rail system, why not just use RIS-attached BUIS?
- how is that going to work?
- 5.45x39 or 7.62x39? And using caseless ammo would change the design *radically*, so think about that
- 'kay
- 'kay
- 'kay
- 'kay, depends on the round you're firing and what you want to do with it
- 'kay
- On a bullpup rifle? Methinks not...

The extension stock is a mounted above the trigger, and extends all away back across the gun to the stock, it is about a 3cm extension, which is about the same as a adjustable stock attachment, it is for when using bulky armor and such, since a common problem with bullpup is the stock not being too comfortable with armor, it also helps if you think the muzzle flash is to close to your face on shortened barrel versions, also the L/R ejections is found on another gun, which is not bullpup though, with the flick of a switch the cases shall eject out a different side, so L and R handers can use it, it also helps if the soldier needs to shoot round of a corner using his left hand, which is uncommon but still..
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Postby Puzikas » Tue May 28, 2013 11:32 am

Sumarma wrote:The Army of Sumarma currently issues three different primary weapons to its soldiers.

The first is the PKP 6P41 machine gun. Also known as the "Pecheneg", this variant of the PKP was first introduced into the military in 2005, replacing the older M60 machine gun. Unlike the M60, the PKP 6P41 fired the 7.56mm x 56mm round, instead of the 7.56mm x 51mm NATO round, making it slightly more powerful. The PKP also has a higher rate of fire( up to 800 RPM in comparison to the M60s maximum of 650 RPM), and weighs less than the M60. However, it has a muzzle velocity and effective range, along with a longer barrel and higher recoil. The M60 was better suited for longer ranges, but the Sumarman army was better suited to mobility and closer range fighting in urban and forested environments and the M60 was. As a result, the lighter, faster firing PKP 6P41 became the new LMG of the Sumarman Armed Forces.

The second weapon is the MP7, replacing the Mp5. While both were produced by Heckler & Kock, the MP5 was older and fired the standard 9x19 parabellum round, which was weaker than the Mp7's 4.6 x 30mm round. The Mp7 also had lower recoil, amounting in hire ranges and better controllability. Critics argued that the weapon lost out on close range capability, which while being true, was made up for by the standard issued Glock machine pistols, which could be fired both at semi-auto and fully automatic.

There is no standard issue rifle as the M14, AK-74M, G36C, and the M4A1 are all available to soldiers based on their skill level with each weapon and their personal preference.



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The PKP is chambered in 7.62x54R, not 7.56x56 or some other such silliness. It also has a longer range than the M60 (1500m vs. 1200m), and actually offers a slightly lower recoil than the M60 shot-per-shot.

You need a standard mainline rifle.no two ways about it. That will cause a massive logical clusterfuck.
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Postby Black Hand » Tue May 28, 2013 11:57 am

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:
Benomia wrote:Guys, you'll never guess what just popped into my head.

So, the Gewer 43 had those sights. You know? Where it's like halfway down the rifle and practically flush with the receiver? Yeah. It had those sights.
So that style sight was carried over to the StG-44 when it was made, probably for commonality purposes.

When good ole Mikhail was making the AK, he had an StG-44 close by. The AK has those sights.

The AN-94, which took many cues from the AK, also has those sights.

You see what I mean? Russia is Nazi Germany!

The AN-94 does not share the AK sights.
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Course The AN-94 sights Would probably be a little confining at those ranges. Just like why they use the wrong sights on about half of the guns is to optimize them for a range of abut 25-30m maximum.
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Postby New Harvest » Tue May 28, 2013 12:46 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:I am most pleased with the increase in lineart

Unrelated:

The gun is beautiful and is extremely detailed, the scope is shit.

maybe increase the size, raise it abit higher from the rails, and make each end thingy much larger.
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