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Icarianna
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Postby Icarianna » Wed May 08, 2013 2:54 pm

Intelligent design is regarded as a myth with no basis in science, therefore it is not taught in schools. Icarianna does support freedom of religion, though, and religious institutions are free to teach what they wish. Fortunately, most of our citizens are not inclined to believe in myths.

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Common Sense Atheists
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Postby Common Sense Atheists » Wed May 08, 2013 2:58 pm

So-called "intelligent design" is regarded as a fable with no verification as science or truth. We probably have churches that teach fables but they are rarely found in our thriving country. Evolution, on the other hand, is a fact verified by many sources and peer-reviewed scientists. It *is* taught in our schools.
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Indecision
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Postby Indecision » Wed May 08, 2013 3:04 pm

We have never-ending debates about this but most of us do not fall for the "supreme being" theory of creation. It really sounds silly to us because it is only theory. Evolution has been proven many times over though our scientists debate the finer points of it. Still, it is a fact. There are facts and evidence of evolution that would be silly to dismiss, we contend.

Intelligent design, has no proof and tries to justify itself by saying it does not need proof. Surely there are some people who believe in a supreme being or a bunch of supreme beings or reincarnation or anything silly like that. We do allow them to believe it, but do not teach such nonsense in our schools.

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Chocolate Chiponia
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Postby Chocolate Chiponia » Wed May 08, 2013 3:09 pm

His Royal Greatness, the Supreme Cookie Baker in the Heavens, whipped up a batch of planets, stars and earths. We can't imagine the size of his oven, but it must be HUGE. Some citizens think a black hole could be the great ovens of eternity, creating universes and especially chocolate. Thus, we celebrate Baking Day by making small planets of our own out of chocolate chips and cookie dough and hang decorated trees in our homes, then gift others with the blessing of chocolate creations. We praise the Supreme Cookie Baker with songs of joy and lots of calories.

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Aegeus
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Postby Aegeus » Wed May 08, 2013 3:32 pm

They don't. Aegeans have temporal incursion technology, and have directly observed the lack of intervention by any deity in the creation of earth specifically, or any of it's life-forms. The universe may have been created by some possible divinity, but he's done absolutely nothing that they're aware of since. Most Aegeans find the idea of defining one's perceptions by things that have no evidence as repugnant.

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The Kaiju Free State
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Postby The Kaiju Free State » Wed May 08, 2013 6:01 pm

In schooling, we mention intelligent design as an explanation posited by some, but we also provide overwhelming evidence for natural selection. We don't force what we believe to be correct on our students, allowing them to make their own conclusions.
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Wed May 08, 2013 6:51 pm

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Postby Magical Equestria » Wed May 08, 2013 6:53 pm

That the world was created for the purpose of providing a home for the Pony race is one of the articles of Orthodox Harmonism, our state religion, and is of course taught in our schools. The concept of evolution is discussed, but the idea of "natural selection" is alien to us: the environment of Equestria is anything BUT "natural", and thus can't "naturally select" members of a species for propagation. When you can control the seasons and the weather, the idea that a species came about NOT as a result of someone's plan seems rather implausible.

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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Wed May 08, 2013 9:52 pm

Having no scientific backing, intelligent design is not taught at our schools.
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed May 08, 2013 10:15 pm

"It is interesting to note that, despite science explaining everything since the big bang, it has never come up with a reason as the why it came to exist. Where did this 'bang' come from? And where did it come from?

Thus, we are not dismissing any possibilities.
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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Wed May 08, 2013 10:19 pm

we teach our students about the home planet that lies out there which used to be our home... but allas we shall find it! and find our origons someday. :lol:
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Cascadia of the North
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Postby Cascadia of the North » Wed May 08, 2013 10:20 pm

The world was created by the gods! Any who deny this fact are to be condemned for their heresy!

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Postby Mighty Qin » Wed May 08, 2013 10:21 pm

Mighty Qin has intelligently designed a special wide-berth ramp for creationists to slide down while explaining Darwin was a con artist. This ramp leads to an intelligently designed meat grinder, which is collected and fed to farm animals who are more intelligent than people who think intelligent design will fool anti-creationists.

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Postby NVADF » Wed May 08, 2013 10:39 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:"It is interesting to note that, despite science explaining everything since the big bang, it has never come up with a reason as the why it came to exist. Where did this 'bang' come from? And where did it come from?

Thus, we are not dismissing any possibilities.
"

- Senator Bruce Miles

Actually there are theories as to what caused the big bang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model

"Models including the Hartle–Hawking no-boundary condition in which the whole of space-time is finite; the Big Bang does represent the limit of time, but without the need for a singularity.

Big Bang lattice model states that the Universe at the moment of the Big Bang consists of an infinite lattice of fermions which is smeared over the fundamental domain so it has both rotational, translational, and gauge symmetry. The symmetry is the largest symmetry possible and hence the lowest entropy of any state.

Brane cosmology models in which inflation is due to the movement of branes in string theory; the pre-Big Bang model; the ekpyrotic model, in which the Big Bang is the result of a collision between branes; and the cyclic model, a variant of the ekpyrotic model in which collisions occur periodically. In the latter model the Big Bang was preceded by a Big Crunch and the Universe endlessly cycles from one process to the other.

Eternal inflation, in which universal inflation ends locally here and there in a random fashion, each end-point leading to a bubble universe expanding from its own big bang."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang#S ... ang_theory

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Postby Agymnum » Wed May 08, 2013 10:44 pm

Intelligent design and creationism are taught as part of cultural development courses in the field of social sciences. In the field of biology, evolution is taught as the only valid creation theory.
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Brain Hand
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Postby Brain Hand » Wed May 08, 2013 11:02 pm

First, in The Democratic States of Brain Hand, Evolution is taught with all its rigor. Then, extreme and perfect criticism is applied until reality and self existence is questioned in itself.

Then, the teacher starts over by clapping their hands and asking, "What is this sound? Is it real or an illusion?" Eventually, when the classroom understands what a clap is, the teacher proves that white and black, and reality and illusion are all the same game we all play. Everyone is taught that the game called life is still fun, just something to stay mindful of. Then the teacher/teachers continue to teach on theology (including creationism), ethics, logic, debate, math, science, and etc.

This formula may change so that math, the Gettier Problem, or any rigorous topic is the start. The proof of the game, and not the game itself, is the important thing.

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Postby Victorious Decepticons » Wed May 08, 2013 11:20 pm

The government-produced Standard Educational Data Pack only teaches theories with at least some scientific backing, so evolution is what's in it.

However, we are a people who exist and reproduce due to the direct actions of Coders, living on a planet that was deliberately engineered and manufactured. So it is natural for us to believe the saying, "where there is Code, there is a Coder." After all, that statement is 100% correct when applied to everything on our home world. The very idea that life just "erupted" elsewhere with no direction strikes most of us as patently ridiculous.

Even so, it will require some kind of proof of the concept of a Coder of the Biologicals before the common theory makes it into the SEDP or any of the scientific Advanced Educational Data Packs (AEDPs). AEDPs on philosophy, religion, and foreign cultures, on the other hand, are not shy about advancing the idea of intelligent design or about speculating on the nature of the Coder of the other species - who is generally regarded as being very prolific but not using any serious quality control practices.

No matter which route we take, we end up proving (or "proving," depending on the method of argument) that we Decepticons are the only species with proper engineering and quality control, and that, by extension, all other species are nothing but beta versions of life.
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Grand Britannia
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Postby Grand Britannia » Wed May 08, 2013 11:22 pm

NVADF wrote:
Grand Britannia wrote:"It is interesting to note that, despite science explaining everything since the big bang, it has never come up with a reason as the why it came to exist. Where did this 'bang' come from? And where did it come from?

Thus, we are not dismissing any possibilities.
"

- Senator Bruce Miles

Actually there are theories as to what caused the big bang.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model

"Models including the Hartle–Hawking no-boundary condition in which the whole of space-time is finite; the Big Bang does represent the limit of time, but without the need for a singularity.

Big Bang lattice model states that the Universe at the moment of the Big Bang consists of an infinite lattice of fermions which is smeared over the fundamental domain so it has both rotational, translational, and gauge symmetry. The symmetry is the largest symmetry possible and hence the lowest entropy of any state.

Brane cosmology models in which inflation is due to the movement of branes in string theory; the pre-Big Bang model; the ekpyrotic model, in which the Big Bang is the result of a collision between branes; and the cyclic model, a variant of the ekpyrotic model in which collisions occur periodically. In the latter model the Big Bang was preceded by a Big Crunch and the Universe endlessly cycles from one process to the other.

Eternal inflation, in which universal inflation ends locally here and there in a random fashion, each end-point leading to a bubble universe expanding from its own big bang."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang#S ... ang_theory

I realize that none of these theories are perfect and respect your beleifs, of course.


Oh no, I know about the Cyclic model, only that thermodynamics makes it highly improbable.
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Postby Yannia » Fri May 10, 2013 4:08 pm

Intelligent Design is considered a joke in Yannia: nobody takes it seriously, not even religious people.
Besides, everyone knows the Great Dragon caused Life, the Universe, and Everything to come into being (after which evolution happened).
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Miraclian Antilles
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Postby Miraclian Antilles » Fri May 10, 2013 4:11 pm

Whoever was tinkin' up "Intelligent Design" was smokin' ganja, mån!
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Postby Ulvena » Fri May 10, 2013 4:23 pm

No unfounded religion is taught in schools, this includes intelligent design. In our world, there are Gods but those are the only "religions" we even consider teaching in schools since to see God, you need only turn on the T.V.

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Postby Miraclia » Fri May 10, 2013 4:30 pm

Intelligent Design is an obvious attempt to dilute the glorious Truth of Creation by infusing it with science! As such, it illegal to teach ID, just as it is illegal to teach evolution. The Miraclian Catholic Church teaches that the Divine One created Heaven and Earth, and All Above, Below, and In Between in 6 days, and rested on the 7th. Everything else is preposterous! Great dragons smoking ganja, indeed!

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Postby Arthymia » Fri May 10, 2013 4:41 pm

Yannia wrote:Intelligent Design is considered a joke in Yannia: nobody takes it seriously, not even religious people.
Besides, everyone knows the Great Dragon caused Life, the Universe, and Everything to come into being (after which evolution happened).

^This.

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Postby Nationalist Tantalus » Fri May 10, 2013 4:52 pm

Grand Britannia wrote:"It is interesting to note that, despite science explaining everything since the big bang, it has never come up with a reason as the why it came to exist. Where did this 'bang' come from? And where did it come from?

Thus, we are not dismissing any possibilities.
"

- Senator Bruce Miles


This. The average Tantalan citizen has a sort of Deist-like approach whereby a higher being merely "programs" the universe for its own pleasure, thus leaving the creation's occupants to fend for themselves until one species becomes a sort of champion for the Creator.

In our society, there is plenty of room for both God and evolution, the former being an overseer of countless universes and keeping watch for stagnated worlds.

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Postby The most holy electric empire » Fri May 10, 2013 5:04 pm

The schools teach Evolution, but inside their houses they are free to say whatever they want
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