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Who should OP the next MMW thread?

Yes I am Biop
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9%
Ulfr-Reich
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19%
Vareiln
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Coltarin
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Risen Britannia
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Beano
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Total votes : 78

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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:48 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Lolzieristan wrote:Looks pretty good to me for a first time, I probably couldn't pull it off. Probably the only thing I'd have to say is to try cleaning it up a bit before uploading it in the future, the little squiggles and squaggles kinda bother me.

And as much as it pains me to say, I...I sorta need Western equipment for this. It's not for me, it's for a friend, who doesn't understand the glory of the ComBloc.


M14 and its variants.

inb4 AR-10/SR-25/etc.


mandatory gulag punishment is in order until the glory of the AK is instilled.

Also AR series, but the L85, FN FNC and such are good, if not better rifles.
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Postby Lolzieristan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:50 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Lolzieristan wrote:Looks pretty good to me for a first time, I probably couldn't pull it off. Probably the only thing I'd have to say is to try cleaning it up a bit before uploading it in the future, the little squiggles and squaggles kinda bother me.

And as much as it pains me to say, I...I sorta need Western equipment for this. It's not for me, it's for a friend, who doesn't understand the glory of the ComBloc.


M14 and its variants.

inb4 AR-10/SR-25/etc.


M14 family could do nicely.

Seems like we've got a hilariously eclectic mix so far, F2000, MG3, M14-DMR, M1911-variant...

In the interest of dodging CoDdity, any recommended Western-pattern .45 ACP submachine guns?
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:51 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:*snip*

GULAG FOR YOU UNTIL GUN PORN IS POSTED

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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:55 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:*snip*

GULAG FOR YOU UNTIL GUN PORN IS POSTED


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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:55 pm

Lolzieristan wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:
M14 and its variants.

inb4 AR-10/SR-25/etc.


M14 family could do nicely.

Seems like we've got a hilariously eclectic mix so far, F2000, MG3, M14-DMR, M1911-variant...

In the interest of dodging CoDdity, any recommended Western-pattern .45 ACP submachine guns?


M3 Grease Gun only .45 ACP SMG.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:57 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:GULAG FOR YOU UNTIL GUN PORN IS POSTED


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NO GULAG FOR YOU. CARRY ON CITIZEN.

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Postby Lolzieristan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:58 pm

Hmm.

Tacti-lol modernized quadrail Grease Gun.
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Postby Latinus » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:00 pm

Ak-47 liek them terrorizts use.

But no seriously, the main weapon is this

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the typical soldier looks like this

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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:02 pm

Lolzieristan wrote:Hmm.

Tacti-lol modernized quadrail Grease Gun.


NO.

GOD NO.

IF YOU PUT ANY FORM OF ATTACHMENT SYSTEM, USE PCAPS.

Latinus wrote:Ak-47 liek them terrorizts use.

But no seriously, the main weapon is this



the typical soldier looks like this



Neat hastai.
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Postby Registug » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:03 pm

You people and your flag balls, when everyone in Sapphire gets their own personified nations!

On guns, I'm wondering if there's any further improvements I could make to the F90 to bring it up to 2030 standard.

Caseless and polymer are not in widespread use yet.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:07 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Lolzieristan wrote:
M14 family could do nicely.

Seems like we've got a hilariously eclectic mix so far, F2000, MG3, M14-DMR, M1911-variant...

In the interest of dodging CoDdity, any recommended Western-pattern .45 ACP submachine guns?


M3 Grease Gun only .45 ACP SMG.



Our retired Army employee (tank commander) said the two M3s kept in the tank were called "Oh Jesus" guns. "If your tank got disabled, the enemy would converge on it like you wouldn't believe. I asked my senior officer why they were called, 'Oh Jesus' guns, and he told me, 'If you have to use one, chances are, you're under heavy fire, your tank is fucked, and the last thing you do before you die is grab one, pop the hatch, and scream, 'Oh, Jesus!' while firing.'"

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Postby Latinus » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:08 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Latinus wrote:Ak-47 liek them terrorizts use.

But no seriously, the main weapon is this



the typical soldier looks like this



Neat hastai.

Thank you!

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Postby Conceptina » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:08 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
M3 Grease Gun only .45 ACP SMG.



Our retired Army employee (tank commander) said the two M3s kept in the tank were called "Oh Jesus" guns. "If your tank got disabled, the enemy would converge on it like you wouldn't believe. I asked my senior officer why they were called, 'Oh Jesus' guns, and he told me, 'If you have to use one, chances are, you're under heavy fire, your tank is fucked, and the last thing you do before you die is grab one, pop the hatch, and scream, 'Oh, Jesus!' while firing.'"



So basically, its for the purpose of "Get off my tank! Get off my tank! Get off my tank!" ?
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Postby The Archangel Conglomerate » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:12 pm

Registug wrote:I'm wondering if there's any further improvements I could make to the F90 to bring it up to 2030 standard.

Caseless and polymer are not in widespread use yet.

You could chamber the FUTUREF90 in 4.75x36mm... It would increase the magazine capacity by ~6 rounds, and offer superior performance to the 5.56mm past 450m.
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For want of real weapons, they lost the war.

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Postby Moriskov » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:13 pm

I finally found this thread (And by that I mean it popped up in the sidebar)
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Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:15 pm

Conceptina wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Our retired Army employee (tank commander) said the two M3s kept in the tank were called "Oh Jesus" guns. "If your tank got disabled, the enemy would converge on it like you wouldn't believe. I asked my senior officer why they were called, 'Oh Jesus' guns, and he told me, 'If you have to use one, chances are, you're under heavy fire, your tank is fucked, and the last thing you do before you die is grab one, pop the hatch, and scream, 'Oh, Jesus!' while firing.'"



So basically, its for the purpose of "Get off my tank! Get off my tank! Get off my tank!" ?



More for the purpose of "die fighting."

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Postby Lolzieristan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:19 pm

I'm aware of some Uzi variants being chambered in .45 ACP, hypothetically, how bad would the recoil be compared to the standard 9mm?
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Postby Latinus » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:29 pm

Lolzieristan wrote:I'm aware of some Uzi variants being chambered in .45 ACP, hypothetically, how bad would the recoil be compared to the standard 9mm?

Depends if you have your shoulder situated right and know how to aim. If yes to both, not terribly worse.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:37 pm

Conceptina wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Our retired Army employee (tank commander) said the two M3s kept in the tank were called "Oh Jesus" guns. "If your tank got disabled, the enemy would converge on it like you wouldn't believe. I asked my senior officer why they were called, 'Oh Jesus' guns, and he told me, 'If you have to use one, chances are, you're under heavy fire, your tank is fucked, and the last thing you do before you die is grab one, pop the hatch, and scream, 'Oh, Jesus!' while firing.'"



So basically, its for the purpose of "Get off my tank! Get off my tank! Get off my tank!" ?


It was originally produced as a replacement for the M1 Thompson, since the M3 was made in the same style the PSS, Sten, and MP-40 was, the M3 is a stamped steel, open bolt blow back SMG that pretty much was an MP-40 bumped to .45 ACP.
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Puzikas
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Postby Puzikas » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:39 pm

Registug wrote:You people and your flag balls, when everyone in Sapphire gets their own personified nations!

On guns, I'm wondering if there's any further improvements I could make to the F90 to bring it up to 2030 standard.

Caseless and polymer are not in widespread use yet.


>Implying my balls aren't awesome

I'll show you...
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Usually waiting for Puz ;-;

Goodbye.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Spreewerke » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:46 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Registug wrote:You people and your flag balls, when everyone in Sapphire gets their own personified nations!

On guns, I'm wondering if there's any further improvements I could make to the F90 to bring it up to 2030 standard.

Caseless and polymer are not in widespread use yet.


>Implying my balls aren't awesome

I'll show you...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRkujysJG9A

Also, 40-round casket mags in 7.62x39mm feeding into my 8"-barreled, gas-adjustable short-FG42? Please and thank you.

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Coltarin
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Coltarin » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:46 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Registug wrote:You people and your flag balls, when everyone in Sapphire gets their own personified nations!

On guns, I'm wondering if there's any further improvements I could make to the F90 to bring it up to 2030 standard.

Caseless and polymer are not in widespread use yet.


>Implying my balls aren't awesome

I'll show you...

Balls are awesome. Wait nation ball right?
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Lolzieristan
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Founded: Jun 28, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Lolzieristan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:26 pm

Coltarin wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
>Implying my balls aren't awesome

I'll show you...

Balls are awesome. Wait nation ball right?


I had to do a double-take on this post entire conversation.
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Ulfr-Reich
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Ex-Nation

Postby Ulfr-Reich » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:11 pm

I re-did/fixed an old design of mine, one of many "Fixes" I'll be doing to old PMG designs, ultimately I am happily transitioning to flash 8, it just nags and irks me that some of my things have such inconsistencies and problems.

I fixed and have decided to re-issue the Hrafn Skilt service revolver, it fits and matches the unit, considering they are recruited for their cruelty.

the Awesome and powerful SP-1919HsK:
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Name: SP-1919HsK

Cartridge: .75-188 Vødnarr

Magazine Capacity: Three

Action: Double-Action

Rate of Fire: How fast can you pull the trigger?

Muzzle Velocity: 2,165 ft/s

Sights: Vignarsson Single-Sight

Operation: In order to operate this weapon, the soldier must push back the "pin" mounted under the barrel, this unlocks the cylinder hinge and "breaks open" the revolver, preparing it for loading, simply insert the ammunition into the now opened cylinder, smack it shut, pull back the hammer and repeat as needed through-out the combat area.

Tactical Application: Should the application of a directional hand-held falconet not be apparent to the discerning military observer...........
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Moriskov
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Moriskov » Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:43 pm

Here is a desgin I am working on for my German-like nation, and as you can see it is based off the FG-42.... and I now realize that I made the magazine to big >>
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Osaea wrote:
Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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