Main Military Weapon of Your Country, Type-9 [Read OP pl0x]

[Indeos]

Bingo.

Figured it would be him, he wasn't known for the best designs.

Anyways, didn't he design some sort of godawful mech in PMG?

Yeah, but those were the days. Back when we had some really innovative ideas from posters who probably don't exist anymore.

[Ularn]

UWAC?

I rlly don't remember much of the original thread.

Bingo.

I was Barrettstia back in MMW I. Which of UAWC's abortions are we referring to?

[Spreewerke]

(Image)

Is it supposed to be tilted upwards?

The bottom of AK receivers are not horizontally true. They angle upward.

[Bajireyn]

Figured it would be him, he wasn't known for the best designs.

Anyways, didn't he design some sort of godawful mech in PMG?

Yeah, but those were the days. Back when we had some really innovative ideas from posters who probably don't exist anymore.

Indeed. I may end up going back to the first thread just to read through it again.

A lot of interesting stuff there.

Bingo.

I was Barrettstia back in MMW I. Which of UAWC's abortions are we referring to?

Some sort of revolver thing.

[Freedomina]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

[Bajireyn]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

[Morganutopia]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

what do you like abute the M4A1.

[Freedomina]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

Thanks for the advice.

[Lolzieristan]

Shhh, let them use AR-15s if they want. I think it's funny that we pretty much shoot them down whenever they come up.

[Bajireyn]

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

Thanks for the advice.

No problem.

[Benomia]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

HK417 best AR10

[Lolzieristan]

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

HK417 best AR10

I love the 417, personally. But I think there's a role for the 5.56 yet.

[Puzikas]

Excellent timing. Just had a discussion over the AK-12/ AK-10X/ AEK-971, what are the pros and cons of them between each other and the AK-74?

The AK12?
I gave trans a brief run down of it. While I never had any hands-on-experience, my buddy in the MVD did. Heres what he had to say.

The rifle offers a improvement of the Kalshnikov system in a way, but NOT in a huge way. The first models were finicky and plagued with issues. They failed to pass trials.
The NEW models, however, are much better. He thinks the issue was that Izmash was rushed by hopefuls. It offers an improved rate of accuracy and much smoother handling characteristics, something more of an east-meets-west mesh. He shot the 5.45x39, 7.62x39, 9x39, 12 gauge versions in depth. He felt the 12 gauge was "Unnecessary but welcome", due to the already purpose built Saiga-12. The 5.45 and 7.62x39 versions both were little to write home about, but the recoil on both in fully automatic fire was next to none. The 9x39 was his favorite, and he told me I would like that one the most of the lot, no doubt referring to my love of the AK-9.
He thinks the AK-12 will see its way into the hands of the MVD, FSB, and special forces by the middle of 2014. His review of it would lead me to think I would put it along the same lines of the BARS AKs and the AN-94, meaning somewhere from 75-85, maybe 90% Positive.
Now, that doesn't mean that the AK-12 is a "B" system at all. There are inherit flaws with every single rifle, and there always will be. I cant give any rifle I ever shot a 100. The closest belongs to the AK-103 (94) and the AEK-973S (92).

Becaue bottompage

[Spreewerke]

Okay, so I added the appropriate spot welds on the receiver, reshaped the buttstock, added rivets to the magazine release tab housing, and made the cleaning rod look a fair bit more respectable. Also added the spring cap for the stock latch (barely visible underneath the receiver).



So, first true attempt at lineart, and the first time I've really ever drawn something with any sort of scale. Respectable image for only a day's work?




Anything blatantly horrific?

[Risen Britannia]

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

HK417 best AR10

pretty sure the HK416/7 is a G36 in a AR body

[Purpelia]

HK417 best AR10

I love the 417, personally. But I think there's a role for the 5.56 yet.

Personally I do not acknowledge any round with a bullet diameter less than and not including 7mm and case length of less than 50mm as being fit for a service weapon. None of those light rounds could pass even the most basic test of penetrating a standard steel helmet at 800m behind cover with reliable accuracy and penetration using non AP loads.

Mind you thou I have newer shot a rifle in my life. And this was IC.

Okay, so I added the appropriate spot welds on the receiver, reshaped the buttstock, added rivets to the magazine release tab housing, and made the cleaning rod look a fair bit more respectable. Also added the spring cap for the stock latch (barely visible underneath the receiver).



So, first true attempt at lineart, and the first time I've really ever drawn something with any sort of scale. Respectable image for only a day's work?

(Image)


Anything blatantly horrific?

Looks a bit elongated to me. Just long... I know that I know nothing about AK's but it just looks long to me.
Other than that, something which is likely a product of my ignorance and/or general insanity it's absolutely great. You could use a little more shading on the stock and stuff. But at this scale it really does not show.

[Bajireyn]

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

AR10 best AR10

Fix'd.

The 417 doesn't have a box-fed LMG variant.

[Nua Corda]

I assume your nation is some sort of 'murrica expy?

Anyways, use the AR10 if your going to use an AR, its better in almost all aspects.

HK417 best AR10

If by best, you mean needlessly heavy and expensive, then sure.

As Ivan says, pretty much anything is better than "HK NAZI BRICK OF MUCH COST!"

[San-Silvacian]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

Geepers Washington! My Freedom senses are tingling!

Also I like how now anybody who says they use the AR-15 platform sucks and would be dominated by the AR-10 platform.

Where is the stamped AR-18 love when you need it.

[Benomia]

The standard military rifle of the Freedomian National Military is the M4A1 Carbine.
M4A1

Geepers Washington! My Freedom senses are tingling!

Also I like how now anybody who says they use the AR-15 platform sucks and would be dominated by the AR-10 platform.

Where is the stamped AR-18 love when you need it.

No

AR-16

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[Purpelia]

Well I am off. See you guys in another time, another land.

[Benomia]

I love the 417, personally. But I think there's a role for the 5.56 yet.

Personally I do not acknowledge any round with a bullet diameter less than and not including 7mm and case length of less than 50mm as being fit for a service weapon

I use 6.8x49

trolololol

[Bajireyn]

HK417 best AR10

If by best, you mean needlessly heavy and expensive, then sure.

As Ivan says, pretty much anything is better than "HK NAZI BRICK OF MUCH COST!"

Also, doesn't H&K have really bad customer support or something like that?

Well I am off. See you guys in another time, another land.

Cya mate.

[Spreewerke]

If by best, you mean needlessly heavy and expensive, then sure.

As Ivan says, pretty much anything is better than "HK NAZI BRICK OF MUCH COST!"

Also, doesn't H&K have really bad customer support or something like that?

Well I am off. See you guys in another time, another land.

Cya mate.

You suck, and H&K hates you.

[The Advancers]

Looks a bit elongated to me. Just long... I know that I know nothing about AK's but it just looks long to me.

Remember there's no magazine there. Having that in place cuts down quite a bit on how long it looks.