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Yes I am Biop
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Ulfr-Reich
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19%
Vareiln
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Coltarin
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Risen Britannia
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Beano
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Total votes : 78

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Aqizithiuda
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon May 20, 2013 5:28 pm

Rolling Dead wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
What era are you?


A stagnant era where WW1 ended swiftly. No known Automatic weapons. Alternative History.


Something like the Winchester M1907 would probably be more likely, then. It was in French use by 1915, British some time around 1914, and Russian by 1916. Late war developments saw the Winchester Machine Rifle developed, which used the same round as the M1907 but with a spitzer projectile, and the 8mm French assault rifle whose name I can never remember. Ribolloye or something similar.

Other interwar intermediates tended to range from 7-9mm in diameter, so such a tiny round as the .220 Swift probably wouldn't be considered by the military of the time.
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Postby Anemos Major » Mon May 20, 2013 5:34 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

Here, have a horrible, horrible compressed version of the AR10 Production Variant because of NS dimensiontyranny.

The original is here.


This is of most sex


It is of most time D:

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 5:35 pm

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Postby Premislyd » Mon May 20, 2013 5:35 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
This is of most sex


It is of most time D:


Is still of better than 99.9% of self stuff
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Postby Rolling Dead » Mon May 20, 2013 5:36 pm

Anyone have any idea of revolver reliability when exposed to the elements? I've never used one before sadly.



Working on my Naval Standard issue sidearm.



Also recoil between 45 LC and 38 Special.

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Postby Anemos Major » Mon May 20, 2013 5:39 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
It is of most time D:


Is still of better than 99.9% of self stuff


It is of very much incomplete and actually fairly crude :S

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Postby Premislyd » Mon May 20, 2013 5:41 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
Is still of better than 99.9% of self stuff


It is of very much incomplete and actually fairly crude :S


I submit to your superior skill then, honorable sir o>
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Postby Anemos Major » Mon May 20, 2013 5:43 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
It is of very much incomplete and actually fairly crude :S


I submit to your superior skill then, honorable sir o>


Image

Absolutely not, most honourable sir.

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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 5:45 pm

Image

I still have to

>Add sights
>Figure out how to barrel length
>Make it so the giant-ass box is actually fully attached to the gun
>Figure out how I have a gigantic figure-eight gear mechanism inside this thing
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Postby Puzikas » Mon May 20, 2013 5:47 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Premislyd wrote:
I submit to your superior skill then, honorable sir o>


Image

Absolutely not, most honourable Ma'am.



Some things are new here..welcome back stranger..
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Postby Anemos Major » Mon May 20, 2013 5:49 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Anemos Major wrote:
Image

Absolutely not, most honourable sir.


Some things are new here..welcome back stranger..


Given how gender confused this line of threads has historically been, I've opted to assume that we're all sirs here. It's hardly sexist - it's just too much hassle, squabbling over binary gender issues when we have so much more to talk about.

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Postby Bajireyn » Mon May 20, 2013 5:54 pm

Anemos Major wrote:
Bajireyn wrote:Well, I guess it'll just be a Sterling in name only then.


The thing is, given the construction of the Sterling .308 forward of the receiver, you'd probably have to invest in a fair few ergonomic changes since you wouldn't have anything to hold short of a rapidly heating handguard section.

Well, the M.1947 SIR (what I'm calling my bastard gun) is the horrid lovechild of a Sterling .308, FN FAL, and an EM2, so I think I can do that.

Anemos Major wrote:(Image)

Here, have a horrible, horrible compressed version of the AR10 Production Variant because of NS dimensiontyranny.

The original is here.

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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 5:56 pm

Who here wants to have their bipod converted to PCAPs and used on a Benomian machining gun?
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
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Map of Benomia
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Postby Sevvania » Mon May 20, 2013 5:58 pm

Rolling Dead wrote:Elder Johnsons Model 2 - EJM2
(Image)

At a request by the Area President, Elder Johnson put off on his Mission for a year to design a rifle suited to the tight trenches combat took place in.

Weight: 7.5 lbs
Length: 38 inches/965mm
Barrel length: 18 in/460 mm
Cartridge: .220 Swift 40 grain Hollow Point
Action: Bolt
Rate of fire: 10-15 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 4,213 ft/s (1,284 m/s)
Effective range: 350 m (1,148 ft)
Feed system: 5 round stripper clip

I made this, if you'd like to use them:
Image
I made the furniture slightly more wood-colored, added iron sights, and created a carbine and marksman variant, although I'm not sure how I feel about the scope mount on the latter.
"Humble thyself and hold thy tongue."

Current Era: 1945
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Postby Rolling Dead » Mon May 20, 2013 6:01 pm

Sevvania wrote:
Rolling Dead wrote:Elder Johnsons Model 2 - EJM2
(Image)

At a request by the Area President, Elder Johnson put off on his Mission for a year to design a rifle suited to the tight trenches combat took place in.

Weight: 7.5 lbs
Length: 38 inches/965mm
Barrel length: 18 in/460 mm
Cartridge: .220 Swift 40 grain Hollow Point
Action: Bolt
Rate of fire: 10-15 rpm
Muzzle velocity: 4,213 ft/s (1,284 m/s)
Effective range: 350 m (1,148 ft)
Feed system: 5 round stripper clip

I made this, if you'd like to use them:
Image

I made the furniture slightly more wood-colored, added iron sights, and created a carbine and marksman variant, although I'm not sure how I feel about the scope mount on the latter.


Those are great! Thank you for the great work. I haven't used the program very much and I'm quite awful with it.

The extended barrel is great since my Naval infantry are drawn up with rifles similar already.


Thank you again.

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Postby Sevvania » Mon May 20, 2013 6:05 pm

Rolling Dead wrote:
Sevvania wrote:I made this, if you'd like to use them:

I made the furniture slightly more wood-colored, added iron sights, and created a carbine and marksman variant, although I'm not sure how I feel about the scope mount on the latter.


Those are great! Thank you for the great work. I haven't used the program very much and I'm quite awful with it.

The extended barrel is great since my Naval infantry are drawn up with rifles similar already.

Thank you again.

You're quite welcome, I'm happy to be of assistance. If you need help with anything else, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 6:15 pm

Benomia wrote:Who here wants to have their bipod converted to PCAPs and used on a Benomian machining gun?


Anyone?
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 20, 2013 6:21 pm

Benomia wrote:
Benomia wrote:Who here wants to have their bipod converted to PCAPs and used on a Benomian machining gun?


Anyone?

Are you... is that your way of asking for a bipod?
Unreachable.

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Postby Sevvania » Mon May 20, 2013 6:23 pm

Benomia wrote:
Benomia wrote:Who here wants to have their bipod converted to PCAPs and used on a Benomian machining gun?

Anyone?

You only waited like, twenty minutes.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 6:24 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Anyone?

Are you... is that your way of asking for a bipod?


It's not like I was trying to hide it.
So yeah.

As we all know from the last time I tried to make one, I'm really bad at it. And who wouldn't want a nice "Bipod designed by xxxx" every now and then?
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
(-9.8, -10.0)
Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Mon May 20, 2013 6:27 pm

Benomia wrote:
Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:Are you... is that your way of asking for a bipod?


It's not like I was trying to hide it.
So yeah.

As we all know from the last time I tried to make one, I'm really bad at it. And who wouldn't want a nice "Bipod designed by xxxx" every now and then?

I guess I can try to whip one up at some point.
Unreachable.

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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 6:27 pm

Nirvash Type TheEND wrote:
Benomia wrote:
It's not like I was trying to hide it.
So yeah.

As we all know from the last time I tried to make one, I'm really bad at it. And who wouldn't want a nice "Bipod designed by xxxx" every now and then?

I guess I can try to whip one up at some point.


Thank you!
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
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Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
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Postby Premislyd » Mon May 20, 2013 6:36 pm

I know I asked Puz and Aqi this on IRC last night, but I don't remember what the answer was, so figured I'd ask (again) here: Would it be better/easier to just shorten a 7.92x57mm Mauser M48 round to 36mm case length rather than trying to modernize the original 7.92x36mm EPK round?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Mon May 20, 2013 6:38 pm

The basic plan for my low tech SPIW style weapon:

The HE component:

- smoothbore, 3" 12 gauge shotgun.
- custom, rimless shells with a brass base and polymer body.
- feeds from a 6 or 12 round double stacked mag.
- primary ammunition is a FRAG-12 style fragmentation grenade current estimate gives it a weight of 50-60 grams and a HE content of 5 grams.
- buckshot, SCMITR flechettes, flares, flashbangs, TASER rounds, etc are all available as well.
- DI, gas operated rotating bolt, AR style buffer tube.
- semi auto only.

The KE component:

- 5.7mm Johnson (40gr bullet @ 2900 ft/s)
- blowback? Roller delayed?
- P90 style 50 round horizontal mag
- semi and full auto.

There will be two models. One, the cheap monkey model, will probably weigh around 5.5 kg or so unloaded. The expensive model will use things like titanium alloys, carbon fiber overwraps, etc to try and keep the weight down to hopefully 4.2 kg unloaded.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 6:42 pm

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Last version for the night. M57 CGB machine gun. Has a overly complex mechanism that results in controllable recoil, extreme performance, and a scary rate of fire.

So basically the best gun in the world, save for its reliability, which is a tad lower than similar (less ridiculously complex) machine guns. 10x57 Benomian, which is straight sided for all of teh blowbakz.
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
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Map of Benomia
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