Main Military Weapon of Your Country, Type-9 [Read OP pl0x]

[San-Silvacian]

The M134 Machine Gun Optic is a 3.4x zoom.

The minigun? That doesn't help all that much - I was hoping for something that can be used for foot patrols.

This is what he meant I hope.

ELCAN M145/C79 Optical Sight. 3.4x zoom. Used in the US on M240s and M249s. Canadians issue them on C7 and C9 rifles as well as machine guns.

Not a bad scope to issue to standard infantry as an inbetween for red-dots and 4x zoom ACOGs.

[San-Silvacian]

I fulfilled gunporn and didn't even try to.

yes.

[Puzikas]

1919
run off

Remington Mosin-Nagant 1917 cal. .30-06 Springfield rimless cartridge.

vs
M1903 Springfield

To replace the old Springfield Model 1892-99.


Which should we use?

Having shot both:
The M1903A3>Mosin Nagant in .30-06. More accurate and a bit more ergonomic.

[Fordorsia]

Yet another remake.
This time the Mk.1 Sub Machine Gun, now using a more glorious cartridge.
I like how I'm improving.

(Image)

Details: http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-SMG-Mk-1-Remake-372828265?ga_submit_new=10%253A1369088255&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

>implying that everything before wasn't glorious

You honour me, good squire.

Stay tuned for Service Rifle Mk.8 of higher glory.

[Aqizithiuda]

Yet another remake.
This time the Mk.1 Sub Machine Gun, now using a more glorious cartridge.
I like how I'm improving.

(Image)

Details: http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-SMG-Mk-1-Remake-372828265?ga_submit_new=10%253A1369088255&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

The mag should be much more curved, even if it's .455 Webly Auto.

[Coastal Union]

1919
run off

Remington Mosin-Nagant 1917 cal. .30-06 Springfield rimless cartridge.

vs
M1903 Springfield

To replace the old Springfield Model 1892-99.


Which should we use?

Having shot both:
The M1903A3>Mosin Nagant in .30-06. More accurate and a bit more ergonomic.

Okay do you think it will be good at jungle warfare?

[Fordorsia]

Yet another remake.
This time the Mk.1 Sub Machine Gun, now using a more glorious cartridge.
I like how I'm improving.

(Image)

Details: http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-SMG-Mk-1-Remake-372828265?ga_submit_new=10%253A1369088255&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

The mag should be much more curved, even if it's .455 Webly Auto.

I thought the cartridges were completely straight, or is it the rim that causes the curve?

[Bhelyant]

No.
It's used on M249's, IIRC. M134 is the name of the optic, not the weapon.

Ah! That makes so much more sense!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C79_optical_sight
^that one maybe?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/7 ... nated.html
and related

[San-Silvacian]

Trijicon makes some good stuff, but they like to over price allot because ACOGBESTSIGHTEVER.

Personally I think ELCAN makes some nice-ass optics.

[Kouralia]

Trijicon makes some good stuff, but they like to over price allot because ACOGBESTSIGHTEVER.

Personally I think ELCAN makes some nice-ass optics.

Isn't the British Army transitioning to ELCAN Spectres now?

[The Advancers]

(Image)

Does that stock look as horrendous as I think?

One does what one can with what one is given

[Aqizithiuda]

The mag should be much more curved, even if it's .455 Webly Auto.

I thought the cartridges were completely straight, or is it the rim that cause the curve?

The rim. Just look at the .38 Owen prototype's mag.

[Puzikas]

Having shot both:
The M1903A3>Mosin Nagant in .30-06. More accurate and a bit more ergonomic.

Okay do you think it will be good at jungle warfare?

Jungle warfare is an iffy thing in the bolt action era. You want high penetration and good fire rate, but you also want a short rifle. The US had a good success rate with the Springfield and their previous rifle series in .30-40 Krag (Name escapes me at the moment), but in my opinion the Enfield jungle carbine is one of the better bolt actions for said warfare. If, however, you are not an all jungle nation, the M1903A3 is considered an all around good rifle.

[Benomia]

(Image)

Does that stock look as horrendous as I think?

One does what one can with what one is given

Why'd you make it magazine fed?

Glourious M57 is belt fed for glory, silly goose.

[The Advancers]

One does what one can with what one is given

Why'd you make it magazine fed?

Glourious M57 is belt fed for glory, silly goose.

Didn't look belt fed. I just thought you'd not put the mag on yet. It was built like an AR - short-ish, no bipod, no cooling vents, no means of putting a belt in place save for straight-up pushing it in the side (something you'll notice many belt-fed weapons don't do)...

[Benomia]

Why'd you make it magazine fed?

Glourious M57 is belt fed for glory, silly goose.

Didn't look belt fed. I just thought you'd not put the mag on yet. It was built like an AR - short-ish, no bipod, no cooling vents, no means of putting a belt in place save for straight-up pushing it in the side (something you'll notice many belt-fed weapons don't do)...

[Veyliss]

*snip*

You should halve that figure. It was 400 rpm in full auto and 2100 rpm in burst.

Aqiz, your comment confuses me, as I don't see how a gun's rate of fire can be any different in burst as opposed to full auto.

I'll try looking up how burst modes work...

OK, I can't find anything.

What I did find was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfk2AyxqkCg

Which shows a rather different semi/auto mechanism to the XM16E1.
It would appear that in the XM16E1, the hammer follows the bolt as soon as the bolt goes past the hammer, and yet still has enough force to fire the round, but back in WW2, this was not the case, so they had to use an extra mechanism to delay the hammer until the bolt had travelled even further.

Why is this? Were the bolts made of heavier, slower materials back in WW2?
And can the bolt in the XM16E1 gets slowed down by residue/sand from that gas operating system?

[Anemos Major]

Here, have a horrible, horrible compressed version of the AR10 Production Variant because of NS dimensiontyranny.

The original is here.

[Yes Im Biop]

*snip*

You should halve that figure. It was 400 rpm in full auto and 2100 rpm in burst.

Aqiz, your comment confuses me, as I don't see how a gun's rate of fire can be any different in burst as opposed to full auto.

I'll try looking up how burst modes work...

OK, I can't find anything.

What I did find was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfk2AyxqkCg

Which shows a rather different semi/auto mechanism to the XM16E1.
It would appear that in the XM16E1, the hammer follows the bolt as soon as the bolt goes past the hammer, and yet still has enough force to fire the round, but back in WW2, this was not the case, so they had to use an extra mechanism to delay the hammer until the bolt had travelled even further.

Why is this? Were the bolts made of heavier, slower materials back in WW2?
And can the bolt in the XM16E1 gets slowed down by residue/sand from that gas operating system?

The G11 is (AT least to me) Most well known for the 3 round burst cycling so fast you will get all 3 rounds off before the recoil from the first hit's you

[Bhelyant]

*snip*

You should halve that figure. It was 400 rpm in full auto and 2100 rpm in burst.

Aqiz, your comment confuses me, as I don't see how a gun's rate of fire can be any different in burst as opposed to full auto.

I'll try looking up how burst modes work...

OK, I can't find anything.

What I did find was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfk2AyxqkCg

Which shows a rather different semi/auto mechanism to the XM16E1.
It would appear that in the XM16E1, the hammer follows the bolt as soon as the bolt goes past the hammer, and yet still has enough force to fire the round, but back in WW2, this was not the case, so they had to use an extra mechanism to delay the hammer until the bolt had travelled even further.

Why is this? Were the bolts made of heavier, slower materials back in WW2?
And can the bolt in the XM16E1 gets slowed down by residue/sand from that gas operating system?

I don't know what you were quoting, but there's a pretty good write up on the AN-94 on Wikipedia, and the rifle features a different firing rate for both burst and full auto fire.

[Benomia]

Aqiz, your comment confuses me, as I don't see how a gun's rate of fire can be any different in burst as opposed to full auto.

I'll try looking up how burst modes work...

OK, I can't find anything.

What I did find was this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfk2AyxqkCg

Which shows a rather different semi/auto mechanism to the XM16E1.
It would appear that in the XM16E1, the hammer follows the bolt as soon as the bolt goes past the hammer, and yet still has enough force to fire the round, but back in WW2, this was not the case, so they had to use an extra mechanism to delay the hammer until the bolt had travelled even further.

Why is this? Were the bolts made of heavier, slower materials back in WW2?
And can the bolt in the XM16E1 gets slowed down by residue/sand from that gas operating system?

I don't know what you were quoting, but there's a pretty good write up on the AN-94 on Wikipedia, and the rifle features a different firing rate for both burst and full auto fire.

Not true, actually.

The first two shots on the AN-94 are fired at 1800 RPM, regardless of what setting it is on.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I'm doubtful of that, Ben.

The minigun? That doesn't help all that much - I was hoping for something that can be used for foot patrols.

No.
It's used on M249's, IIRC. M134 is the name of the optic, not the weapon.

M145.

[Benomia]

I'm doubtful of that, Ben.

Look it up, then.

M145.

THAT was it! The M145 MGO.

[Puzikas]

AN-94 is space magic.
I am shoot rifle for first time, and all I am able to say is "Where is recoil impulse?"
And I am of standing there with empty magazine, and there is a hole in target 200m away about size of half dollar of America. And I didn't even know I shot. I was waiting for recoil.
Space magic.

[Veyliss]

*snip*

I don't know what you were quoting, but there's a pretty good write up on the AN-94 on Wikipedia, and the rifle features a different firing rate for both burst and full auto fire.

Not true, actually.

The first two shots on the AN-94 are fired at 1800 RPM, regardless of what setting it is on.

That's the one which "stores" the recoil from the first round and releases it with that of the second, right?
(I believe it's called pulse shifted blowback or something)