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Who should OP the next MMW thread?

Yes I am Biop
7
9%
Ulfr-Reich
15
19%
Vareiln
2
3%
Coltarin
6
8%
Risen Britannia
38
49%
Beano
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13%
 
Total votes : 78

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Fordorsia
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:16 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Are there such things as ergonomic magazines other than those that you can grip? Seems pointless to have have ones that could be considered ergonomic.


Kinda. I always found most fairly decent.

Also, I just found out the combined age of two of my guns guns is 222.
Not bad.


Two very old nuggets?

Edit because I forgot about my poor old Mk.7.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:16 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Benomia wrote:(Image)

The way it works is like this:

Round fires, pressure pushes the casing & bolt backwards, like a normal blowback. Connected to the back of the bolt is a sort of disc, that is connected to a very long pistol that goes the length of the gun above the barrel. The disc rotates, pushing the piston forward. A powerful spring pushes the piston backwards when it's at its forwardmost point, which then rotates the disc the other way, pushing the bolt closed again. This simulates BARS, but without the drawbacks of a gas system.

Such a system could not reasonably work with weaker cartridges, but with the 10mm magnum cartridge the M57 was designed for, it should have more than enough power to move the disc and pison.



Advice: Imagine your hand holding the pistol grip. You hand should cover the entire grip apart from maybe a centimetre or two from the bottom. Now, with that pictured, could you fit your finger into the trigger guard and efficiently pull the trigger? If not, enlarge the trigger guard and move the trigger forward until their is room for a gloved finger, it is able to be pulled easily and you can comfortably rest your finger over it for when you're not shooting people, but will be soon.

This is my first piece of calmed advice to you. Heed it.

If [url=http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3082/pt790camo.png]this[/img] can be fired easily with gloves, I don't think I'll have a problem, but will revise nontheless.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:22 pm

Benomia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:

Advice: Imagine your hand holding the pistol grip. You hand should cover the entire grip apart from maybe a centimetre or two from the bottom. Now, with that pictured, could you fit your finger into the trigger guard and efficiently pull the trigger? If not, enlarge the trigger guard and move the trigger forward until their is room for a gloved finger, it is able to be pulled easily and you can comfortably rest your finger over it for when you're not shooting people, but will be soon.

This is my first piece of calmed advice to you. Heed it.

If [url=http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/3082/pt790camo.png]this[/img] can be fired easily with gloves, I don't think I'll have a problem, but will revise nontheless.


Well, Corda's foo'-capper is scaled correctly.

Also, do the the same kind of process with the stock, and anything that requires part of your body touching it at some point for that matter.
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Postby Puzikas » Mon May 20, 2013 1:23 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
Kinda. I always found most fairly decent.

Also, I just found out the combined age of two of my guns guns is 222.
Not bad.


Two very old nuggets?

Edit because I forgot about my poor old Mk.7.
Image


Have more faith in me.

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Postby Vareiln » Mon May 20, 2013 1:25 pm

Triplebaconation wrote:
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That has nothing in common with the FAMAS except the bayonet. The names aren't even the same.

Godammit, now I feel stupid.

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Postby Risen Britannia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:33 pm

Trying to get into line arting guns again:
[WIP]
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Auto shotgun based off my 6.5mm rifle platform.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:35 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:Trying to get into line arting guns again:
[WIP]
(Image)
Auto shotgun based off my 6.5mm rifle platform.


Personally I reckon it would be more comfortable with the foregrip further forward.

Though I guess that's why you rail.
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Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

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Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:36 pm

Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.
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Woke up in bitches and enemy combatants.

Crookfur wrote:Speak for yourself, Crookfur infantry enjoy the sheer uber high speed low drag operator nature of their tactical woad

Spreewerke wrote:One of our employees ate a raw kidney and a raw liver and the only powers he gained was the ability to summon a massive hospital bill.

Premislyd wrote:This is probably the best thing somebody has ever spammed.

Puzikas wrote:That joke was so dark it has to smile to be seen at night.

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Postby Vareiln » Mon May 20, 2013 1:38 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:Trying to get into line arting guns again:
[WIP]
(Image)
Auto shotgun based off my 6.5mm rifle platform.

Amazing as always.

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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:38 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Benomia wrote:(Image)

The way it works is like this:

Round fires, pressure pushes the casing & bolt backwards, like a normal blowback. Connected to the back of the bolt is a sort of disc, that is connected to a very long pistol that goes the length of the gun above the barrel. The disc rotates, pushing the piston forward. A powerful spring pushes the piston backwards when it's at its forwardmost point, which then rotates the disc the other way, pushing the bolt closed again. This simulates BARS, but without the drawbacks of a gas system.

Such a system could not reasonably work with weaker cartridges, but with the 10mm magnum cartridge the M57 was designed for, it should have more than enough power to move the disc and pison.



Advice: Imagine your hand holding the pistol grip. You hand should cover the entire grip apart from maybe a centimetre or two from the bottom. Now, with that pictured, could you fit your finger into the trigger guard and efficiently pull the trigger? If not, enlarge the trigger guard and move the trigger forward until their is room for a gloved finger, it is able to be pulled easily and you can comfortably rest your finger over it for when you're not shooting people, but will be soon.

This is my first piece of calmed advice to you. Heed it.

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Is this better?
Ignoring the stock, I mean.
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Postby Ea90 » Mon May 20, 2013 1:39 pm

Premislyd wrote:I feel quite #hipster b/c I already knew this

lol basically this

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Postby Fischermann » Mon May 20, 2013 1:43 pm

Asking again - does anybody have pictures of the FA-MAS Type 62's receiver's right side where the ejection port and shit are located?
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:45 pm

Benomia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:

Advice: Imagine your hand holding the pistol grip. You hand should cover the entire grip apart from maybe a centimetre or two from the bottom. Now, with that pictured, could you fit your finger into the trigger guard and efficiently pull the trigger? If not, enlarge the trigger guard and move the trigger forward until their is room for a gloved finger, it is able to be pulled easily and you can comfortably rest your finger over it for when you're not shooting people, but will be soon.

This is my first piece of calmed advice to you. Heed it.

Image
Is this better?
Ignoring the stock, I mean.


Can't say I've seen that many non-bullpup weapons with "whatever you call them" style trigger guards.

It's better, but you still have to move the trigger forward slightly and enlarge it.

Actually, if it's okay with Risen-Britannia, you should base you trigger guard of his rifle that he posted so that it's a bit larger. Not how it looks, but just for getting the scale right.
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Postby Fischermann » Mon May 20, 2013 1:52 pm

http://gunco-book.tripod.com/01.htm

Can anyone who can load this site properly (it's broken for me) upload the FA-MAS Types? Search for France and they'll pop up.
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Postby Premislyd » Mon May 20, 2013 1:54 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.


You can only modernize something so much

only thing I can think of is making it shorter, and chambering it in a non-7mm FN Short round.
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Postby Risen Britannia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:55 pm

Fordorsia wrote:
Risen Britannia wrote:Trying to get into line arting guns again:
[WIP]
(Image)
Auto shotgun based off my 6.5mm rifle platform.


Personally I reckon it would be more comfortable with the foregrip further forward.

Though I guess that's why you rail.
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Fordorsia wrote:Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.
make it like this :p
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Risen Britannia wrote:Trying to get into line arting guns again:
[WIP]
(Image)
Auto shotgun based off my 6.5mm rifle platform.

Amazing as always.

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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Mon May 20, 2013 1:56 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:Trying to get into line arting guns again:
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(Image)
Auto shotgun based off my 6.5mm rifle platform.

It looks nice.
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Postby Fischermann » Mon May 20, 2013 1:57 pm

Premislyd wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.


You can only modernize something so much

only thing I can think of is making it shorter, and chambering it in a non-7mm FN Short round.


It'll be used as a DMR/Battle Rifle.

Also, don't bother - I found another version of the site pictures and they don't have the right side of the gun either.

Found it on forgottenweapons as an old diagram.
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Postby Benomia » Mon May 20, 2013 1:57 pm

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Is better, no?
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon May 20, 2013 2:03 pm

Fordorsia wrote:Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.


The Swedish now are issuing out red-dot sights on their G3s without irons.

You could issue out red-dots as standard, but keep irons.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 2:10 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:
Personally I reckon it would be more comfortable with the foregrip further forward.

Though I guess that's why you rail.
Choo Choo!
Fordorsia wrote:Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.
make it like this :p


Do not temp me, heretic. I would smack you if I did not like the magazine.

As it's airsoft, I hope that the real-steel version would hold 30 rounds, as I may create such a thing.

San-Silvacian wrote:
Fordorsia wrote:Anyone know how I could further modernize my service rifle? It's the one at the top of the page.

No optics or other interchangeable doodads.


The Swedish now are issuing out red-dot sights on their G3s without irons.

You could issue out red-dots as standard, but keep irons.


Any idea how optics generally handle freezing conditions? I ask as that's Fordorsia's weather for you.

Benomia wrote:(Image)
Is better, no?


Make the trigger guard wider so there's much more room for the trigger.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon May 20, 2013 2:20 pm

Well if the Swedes issue them out like candy, then I would think they are pretty good.
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Postby Premislyd » Mon May 20, 2013 2:22 pm

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You can only modernize something so much

only thing I can think of is making it shorter, and chambering it in a non-7mm FN Short round.


It'll be used as a DMR/Battle Rifle.


Why not use an HK417 then
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Postby Puzikas » Mon May 20, 2013 2:23 pm

Generally pretty well. In my time I spent freezing my ass off, the biggest issue I had was my DMs scope kept fogging up. This was at about -30-40 degrees centigrade mind you.
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Postby Fordorsia » Mon May 20, 2013 2:36 pm

Puzikas wrote:Generally pretty well. In my time I spent freezing my ass off, the biggest issue I had was my DMs scope kept fogging up. This was at about -30-40 degrees centigrade mind you.


So a red dot or something similar wouldn't freeze up and have it's view obscured too often then?

Note that in the Fordy/Ulfr-Reich universe, normal cold is usually near-Arctic.
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