NS Military Realism Consultation Thread #3

[Risen Britannia]

Oh BTW i have decided that my plane will have two 20mms in the nose along with two more 20mms in the wing roots.
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The guys in Linc were warning you about the blade-off zone, again.

Unfortunately there is not much I can do to change that as I cant move the wing in relation to the cockpit as it would limit the view or make the problem worse. I could extend the engines but as you can see that then looks odd in relation to the size of the wing.

right wing- engine in 'normal' position
left wing- engine moved forwards

[Samozaryadnyastan]

I dunno, the Beaufighter had a pretty solid service record as a fighter-bomber and later night-fighter, despite very forward wings and some whacking huge engine pods.

The mozzie also had some pretty far forward wings, the prop cones were almost the furthest forward component of the aircraft.

Googles "blade-off zone".
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=blade ... 66&bih=643
THIS IS NOT WHAT I SEARCHED FOR

[Risen Britannia]

I dunno, the Beaufighter had a pretty solid service record as a fighter-bomber and later night-fighter, despite very forward wings and some whacking huge engine pods.

The mozzie also had some pretty far forward wings, the prop cones were almost the furthest forward component of the aircraft.

Googles "blade-off zone".
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=blade ... 66&bih=643
THIS IS NOT WHAT I SEARCHED FOR

Ok I have extended the engine about 70cm forwards so whilst still not great its better than it was before.

[Purpelia]

That thing looks like it might get front heavy. Have you done the math?

[Rich and Corporations]

That thing looks like it might get front heavy. Have you done the math?

Center of gravity doesn't really matter as much when you're suspended by the wings through lift. It matters more that your center of gravity is near the wings.

Also, it's worth reading this Mr. Britannia: http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/ ... un-fi.html

[Risen Britannia]

That thing looks like it might get front heavy. Have you done the math?

Center of gravity doesn't really matter as much when you're suspended by the wings through lift. It matters more that your center of gravity is near the wings.

Also, it's worth reading this Mr. Britannia: http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/ ... un-fi.html

Whilst a few smaller rounds = one larger one, having a larger caliber does allow for a greater attack range (the BK5 was designed to be used from outside the effective range of the B17s guns)

[Rich and Corporations]

Center of gravity doesn't really matter as much when you're suspended by the wings through lift. It matters more that your center of gravity is near the wings.

Also, it's worth reading this Mr. Britannia: http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/ ... un-fi.html

Whilst a few smaller rounds = one larger one, having a larger caliber does allow for a greater attack range (the BK5 was designed to be used from outside the effective range of the B17s guns)

Did you read it? I'm not arguing against your decisions, I'm just offering a source of information that talks about the tradeoffs involved. I really suggest exploring the site.
Also.. http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/Grabin.htm trolol

[Oaledonia]

Also.. http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/Grabin.htm trolol

[Bhelyant]

Does anyone have a list of CTA guns/rounds that have been actually fielded?

The only ones I can think of are the Rikhter R-23 (and someone on here said that doesn't count because it isn't really CTA because the powder doesn't surround the bullet,) and the Ares 75mm which has seen some use as a 76mm with Taiwan's M-41D. Did the cannon on the M103 shoot telescoped ammunition?

[Oaledonia]

Does anyone have a list of CTA guns/rounds that have been actually fielded?

The only ones I can think of are the Rikhter R-23 (and someone on here said that doesn't count because it isn't really CTA because the powder doesn't surround the bullet,) and the Ares 75mm which has seen some use as a 76mm with Taiwan's M-41D. Did the cannon on the M103 shoot telescoped ammunition?

The LSAT

[Bhelyant]

Does anyone have a list of CTA guns/rounds that have been actually fielded?

The only ones I can think of are the Rikhter R-23 (and someone on here said that doesn't count because it isn't really CTA because the powder doesn't surround the bullet,) and the Ares 75mm which has seen some use as a 76mm with Taiwan's M-41D. Did the cannon on the M103 shoot telescoped ammunition?

The LSAT

AFAIK, the LSAT isn't quite into production stage yet, so it falls slightly short of the "actually fielded" criteria. Or at least as I had thought of the question, but not necessarily worded it.

[Anacasppia]

For my regular ('motor') infantry units should I assign one SP mortar to each platoon or one SP mortar platoon to each company? Same goes for my MGSes. I'm leaning towards the later since company commanders can always detach vehicles to platoons as needed...

[Rich and Corporations]

For my regular ('motor') infantry units should I assign one SP mortar to each platoon or one SP mortar platoon to each company? Same goes for my MGSes. I'm leaning towards the later since company commanders can always detach vehicles to platoons as needed...

one platoon to each company
or one "battery" as they are typically called

[Immoren]

For my regular ('motor') infantry units should I assign one SP mortar to each platoon or one SP mortar platoon to each company? Same goes for my MGSes. I'm leaning towards the later since company commanders can always detach vehicles to platoons as needed...

Platoon/squad to company
Company/platoon to battalion.

[Aqizithiuda]

Does anyone have a list of CTA guns/rounds that have been actually fielded?

The only ones I can think of are the Rikhter R-23 (and someone on here said that doesn't count because it isn't really CTA because the powder doesn't surround the bullet,) and the Ares 75mm which has seen some use as a 76mm with Taiwan's M-41D. Did the cannon on the M103 shoot telescoped ammunition?

I didn't think the M-41D had a CTA 76mm gun?

If you accept the Rikhter as a CTA gun, then the Nagant M1895 pistol also qualifies. Other than that, I can't think of any other fielded CTA rounds.

[Gaelic Celtia]

I currently have around 20,000,000 in the army and have capped it at that for a while. However, considering my population, economic strength and Defense Force rating, can that realistically go any higher?

[Oaledonia]

I currently have around 20,000,000 in the army and have capped it at that for a while. However, considering my population, economic strength and Defense Force rating, can that realistically go any higher?

That's all nice but you have two key things to remember:
1) Do you need anything higher? Seeing from a logistical standpoint you wont be deploying in the millions, that brings me to point two...

2) Logistics, the bitch to any army. The larger the army the harder it is to keep track of.

[Immoren]

For my regular ('motor') infantry units should I assign one SP mortar to each platoon or one SP mortar platoon to each company? Same goes for my MGSes. I'm leaning towards the later since company commanders can always detach vehicles to platoons as needed...

one platoon to each company
or one "battery" as they are typically called

Mortars are infantry weapons.
Battery is artillery terminology.
So mortars wouldn't be grouped into batteries.

[Samozaryadnyastan]

For my regular ('motor') infantry units should I assign one SP mortar to each platoon or one SP mortar platoon to each company? Same goes for my MGSes. I'm leaning towards the later since company commanders can always detach vehicles to platoons as needed...

To a platoon? That's pretty low. A platoon would be lucky to have themselves a 76mm mortar between them in most forces.
SP mortars are typically a... Regimental asset? (thinking about stuff the size of Tyulpan here)

The M1129 Stryker 120mm Mortar Carrier is a Battalion asset.

[Immoren]

For my regular ('motor') infantry units should I assign one SP mortar to each platoon or one SP mortar platoon to each company? Same goes for my MGSes. I'm leaning towards the later since company commanders can always detach vehicles to platoons as needed...

To a platoon? That's pretty low. A platoon would be lucky to have themselves a 76mm mortar between them in most forces.
SP mortars are typically a... Regimental asset? (thinking about stuff the size of Tyulpan here)

The M1129 Stryker 120mm Mortar Carrier is a Battalion asset.

Kiev(?) mentioned Tyulpans being collected to mortar brigades directly under div/corps/whatever command.
M1129 is SP mortar, given its 120mm mortar doesn't need to dismount for fire mission.

[Efsanevi]

So what would be a good replacement weapon for the G3? I'm looking for a pretty modern modular weapon to replace are aging stockpile or would it be just as good to refurbish are G3s?

[Aqizithiuda]

So what would be a good replacement weapon for the G3? I'm looking for a pretty modern modular weapon to replace are aging stockpile or would it be just as good to refurbish are G3s?

What's your terrain and military doctrine like?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

To a platoon? That's pretty low. A platoon would be lucky to have themselves a 76mm mortar between them in most forces.
SP mortars are typically a... Regimental asset? (thinking about stuff the size of Tyulpan here)

The M1129 Stryker 120mm Mortar Carrier is a Battalion asset.

Kiev(?) mentioned Tyulpans being collected to mortar brigades directly under div/corps/whatever command.
M1129 is SP mortar, given its 120mm mortar doesn't need to dismount for fire mission.

Not sure why, but I personally consider Mortar Carriers like the 1129 as being a "light" self-propelled mortar.

So what would be a good replacement weapon for the G3? I'm looking for a pretty modern modular weapon to replace are aging stockpile or would it be just as good to refurbish are G3s?

Depends on what your considerations are.
The G3 is a reliable and dependable battle rifle. Refurbishing it would keep you a reliable and powerful weapon.

Changing to an assault rifle firing an intermediate cartridge will theoretically limit your engagement distance* but will offer more ammunition carried for a given weight of a load dedicated to ammunition; a lighter weapon with lighter recoil; and allow a squad-level machine gun sharing ammunition with such rifles to carry significantly more ammunition.

*I say theoretically because it's not much of a concern. The typical engagement range is about 300m or significantly less, and infantry are unlikely to engage each other beyond 500m.
As such, if the average rifleman sees a threat at 600m, the squad (assuming they're equipped with suitable optics) can engage him as a point target. If the squad was now equipped with assault rifles instead of G3s, they could still suppress the threat as an area target, pinning him down for artillery, machine gun or sniper fire.

[Efsanevi]

So what would be a good replacement weapon for the G3? I'm looking for a pretty modern modular weapon to replace are aging stockpile or would it be just as good to refurbish are G3s?

What's your terrain and military doctrine like?

The terrain is a dusty Chaparral landscape with a Mediterranean climet. However the north is pretty mountainous. Are military doctrin has a strong enphases on accuracy. Although we do understand the need for suppressing fire are soldiers are more likely to take a pin point shot (or as pin point as they can get). So we train a lot on accurate shooting as well as physical ability. Are standing army is only 65,000 strong but we have good faith in them.

I'm guessing refinishing them to make the soldier friendly. So just cut some weight and add a rail system. Or I'm thinking that an SIG SG 553 would be a good replacement but I'm really not willing to drop that much in bullet size.

[Aqizithiuda]

What's your terrain and military doctrine like?

The terrain is a dusty Chaparral landscape with a Mediterranean climet. However the north is pretty mountainous. Are military doctrin has a strong enphases on accuracy. Although we do understand the need for suppressing fire are soldiers are more likely to take a pin point shot (or as pin point as they can get). So we train a lot on accurate shooting as well as physical ability. Are standing army is only 65,000 strong but we have good faith in them.

I'm guessing refinishing them to make the soldier friendly. So just cut some weight and add a rail system. Or I'm thinking that an SIG SG 553 would be a good replacement but I'm really not willing to drop that much in bullet size.

Probably a refurbished G3, then.

If you do choose an intermediate, the SG 550 and 551 could be rechambered in something like the 6.8 SPC, 6.5 Grendel, 6.5 MPC (or the higher pressure 6.5 PPC), the 6x45mm (also known as the 6mm-.223) or the .300 BLK without any problems.