Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[Fordorsia]

Sort of nearly barbecue season. Fordorsia's extremely cold weather means we want warmth. Lots of warmth to simulate spring. Hence new flammenwerfers.

[Puzikas]

Sort of nearly barbecue season. Fordorsia's extremely cold weather means we want warmth. Lots of warmth to simulate spring. Hence new flammenwerfers.

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EVERY season is barbecue season.

Flamethrowers are cool guy, they shoot huge jets of fire and make sure baddies have nowhere to hide.

[Fordorsia]

Sort of nearly barbecue season. Fordorsia's extremely cold weather means we want warmth. Lots of warmth to simulate spring. Hence new flammenwerfers.

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EVERY season is barbecue season.

Flamethrowers are cool guy, they shoot huge jets of fire and make sure baddies have nowhere to hide.

Technically they'll already be hiding when they're burning. Also, there are no baddies, just opposing sides acting in their best interests.

[Tule]

Are Stripper clips an acceptable method of reloading in modern warfare?

I'm thinking of only issuing 3x20 round mags to each soldier +240 rounds of 7.62x39 in 10 round stripper clips. AK mags that aren't shit tend to be heavy.
Any WW1 Tommy worth his salt could fire 28 well-placed rounds per minute out of his 10 round SMLE, so I thought it could work.

[Purpelia]

There is no reason not to issue them really. Even if you ignore reloading in battle, it's just that much easier to refill your empty magazines using ones than doing it one round at a time.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Are Stripper clips an acceptable method of reloading in modern warfare?

I'm thinking of only issuing 3x20 round mags to each soldier +240 rounds of 7.62x39 in 10 round stripper clips. AK mags that aren't shit tend to be heavy.
Any WW1 Tommy worth his salt could fire 28 well-placed rounds per minute out of his 10 round SMLE, so I thought it could work.

Yes.

Most ammo is carried this way.

Although reloading such in heated combat is frowned upon.

[Aqizithiuda]

Are Stripper clips an acceptable method of reloading in modern warfare?

I'm thinking of only issuing 3x20 round mags to each soldier +240 rounds of 7.62x39 in 10 round stripper clips. AK mags that aren't shit tend to be heavy.
Any WW1 Tommy worth his salt could fire 28 well-placed rounds per minute out of his 10 round SMLE, so I thought it could work.

No. Australian experiences during Vietnam suggest that you should carry as many loaded mags as possible.

Still, at least you're planning on issuing stripper clips instead of loose ball.

[The Advancers]

Bullpup SAW Y/N?



The idea would be a slimmer but longer belt box, with several smaller belts (compared to a contemporary belt-fed SAW), each sliding into place as the one before is emptied and ejected. This would allow the user to hold the weapon more comfortably than if a wider box was used in the same place.

I'm honestly just throwing this around; I don't know if the idea's been done before or if it would be practical at all. If you guys think it might work, I'll finish up this prototype and see how it looks.

[Tule]

Are Stripper clips an acceptable method of reloading in modern warfare?

I'm thinking of only issuing 3x20 round mags to each soldier +240 rounds of 7.62x39 in 10 round stripper clips. AK mags that aren't shit tend to be heavy.
Any WW1 Tommy worth his salt could fire 28 well-placed rounds per minute out of his 10 round SMLE, so I thought it could work.

No. Australian experiences during Vietnam suggest that you should carry as many loaded mags as possible.

Still, at least you're planning on issuing stripper clips instead of loose ball.

Can you elaborate on the Australian experiences?

[Yes Im Biop]

Hey Could someone help me with my factbook? Can someone make just a simple line art of a Single Barrel elephant gun design? I'm using that as my nation's first semi repeating rifle (For my Fact book)

[Spreewerke]

Also myth: you can store loaded magazines for an indefinite amount of time assuming the feed lips don't bend themselves out of shape (PMags and STANAGs, I be lookin' at you). Constant pressure on a spring won't wear it out. Repeated tension/no-tension (loading, unloading, etc.) several, several hundred times will. That's why you can store a rifle with its hammer back.

I've never heard of this happening to PMAGs. Actually, I think they were designed to be able to store for extended periods, hence the magazine cap.

Magazine caps are for use when the magazine is supposed to be stored for one or more years. Most likely because it will bend the feed lips otherwise, like I stated. "One year plus with certain items added to it" isn't quite the same as load-and-forget. AK mags? I load it, forget it. If I need it two weeks from now, fine: it goes into rifle. If I need it ten years from now, fine: it goes into rifle.

[Spreewerke]

Are Stripper clips an acceptable method of reloading in modern warfare?

I'm thinking of only issuing 3x20 round mags to each soldier +240 rounds of 7.62x39 in 10 round stripper clips. AK mags that aren't shit tend to be heavy.
Any WW1 Tommy worth his salt could fire 28 well-placed rounds per minute out of his 10 round SMLE, so I thought it could work.

Hi.

This is a not-heavy AK magazine that is also not-shit. Perhaps you've met before, perhaps not. It's from Bulgaria.


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[Aqizithiuda]

No. Australian experiences during Vietnam suggest that you should carry as many loaded mags as possible.

Still, at least you're planning on issuing stripper clips instead of loose ball.

Can you elaborate on the Australian experiences?

Standard issue post Vietnam was three 20 round mags, six if you were line infantry. I'm not sure how many mags were issued to in infantry - I remember something about it being 4 or 5 mags, but can't be sure - but on at least one occasion troops ran low on ammunition, had some dropped to them, ran over to the ammo tins and found that they needed to load individual rounds. This, IIRC, lead to more magazines being issued to combat troops.

I, personally, would issue five to seven 30 round magazines, plus 180 rounds or so on 10 round clips.

[Tule]

Can you elaborate on the Australian experiences?

Standard issue post Vietnam was three 20 round mags, six if you were line infantry. I'm not sure how many mags were issued to in infantry - I remember something about it being 4 or 5 mags, but can't be sure - but on at least one occasion troops ran low on ammunition, had some dropped to them, ran over to the ammo tins and found that they needed to load individual rounds. This, IIRC, lead to more magazines being issued to combat troops.

I, personally, would issue five to seven 30 round magazines, plus 180 rounds or so on 10 round clips.

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

[Aqizithiuda]

Standard issue post Vietnam was three 20 round mags, six if you were line infantry. I'm not sure how many mags were issued to in infantry - I remember something about it being 4 or 5 mags, but can't be sure - but on at least one occasion troops ran low on ammunition, had some dropped to them, ran over to the ammo tins and found that they needed to load individual rounds. This, IIRC, lead to more magazines being issued to combat troops.

I, personally, would issue five to seven 30 round magazines, plus 180 rounds or so on 10 round clips.

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

Not as heavy as 7.62 NATO.

What MV are you getting with the 150gr loading?

[Spreewerke]

Standard issue post Vietnam was three 20 round mags, six if you were line infantry. I'm not sure how many mags were issued to in infantry - I remember something about it being 4 or 5 mags, but can't be sure - but on at least one occasion troops ran low on ammunition, had some dropped to them, ran over to the ammo tins and found that they needed to load individual rounds. This, IIRC, lead to more magazines being issued to combat troops.

I, personally, would issue five to seven 30 round magazines, plus 180 rounds or so on 10 round clips.

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

I've carried seven AK magazines on me before. It was a little heavy, but far from unmanagable. European Steel (save for the one ChiCom mag; it's Asian from Asia). Here I am, 5'11" standing straight, 130lbs., not really in that great of shape.



EDIT TO ADD: Also, give your troops as many magazines as they can carry. Spare ammunition is dropped in crates that have cardboard bandoliers inside of them. What's inside of those (at least for current US military)? Ten rounds per stripper clip, three stripper clips per cardboard box/bandolier. Feeding guide to load them into mags is provided in the ammo tin. Retain your magazines upon reloading whenever possible, reload magazines when ammo is dropped.

[Yes Im Biop]

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

I've carried seven AK magazines on me before. It was a little heavy, but far from unmanagable. European Steel (save for the one ChiCom mag; it's Asian from Asia). Here I am, 5'11" standing straight, 130lbs., not really in that great of shape.

Spree...I could crush you man. I'm same height 205lbs.

[Spreewerke]

I've carried seven AK magazines on me before. It was a little heavy, but far from unmanagable. European Steel (save for the one ChiCom mag; it's Asian from Asia). Here I am, 5'11" standing straight, 130lbs., not really in that great of shape.

Spree...I could crush you man. I'm same height 205lbs.

Takes more than weight to crush a man.

[Tule]

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

Not as heavy as 7.62 NATO.

What MV are you getting with the 150gr loading?

About 2200 FPS at the muzzle out of a 16' barrel.

At 100 yards it catches up with the 123 grain bullets.

[Yes Im Biop]

Spree...I could crush you man. I'm same height 205lbs.

Takes more than weight to crush a man.

Depends

[Puzikas]

EVERY season is barbecue season.

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Flamethrowers are cool guy, they shoot huge jets of fire and make sure baddies have nowhere to hide.

Technically they'll already be hiding when they're burning. Also, there are no baddies, just opposing sides acting in their best interests.

Baddies=jargon for OPFOR. I dont know if western nations use that. /shrug.

Also not what I was getting at, I'm saying they burn the shit out of natural landscape and effective make an area, or a city in the case of Warsaw, a shell.

On this stripper clips thing:
I carried some. Everyone did. We obviously carried more magazines than clips,but when it came to it we liked to have extra. Just in case. The worst feeling in the world is reaching into that pouch and realizing you dont have a single round left. Its not easy to reload a magazine in combat, but its easier than fixing bayonet and charging or costing your squad ammunition.

[Tule]

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

I've carried seven AK magazines on me before. It was a little heavy, but far from unmanagable. European Steel (save for the one ChiCom mag; it's Asian from Asia). Here I am, 5'11" standing straight, 130lbs., not really in that great of shape.

Now add the weight of the NBC suit, Stahlhelm, grenades, PASGT vest, Canteen, med kit, radio, and MRE's.

[Spreewerke]

I've carried seven AK magazines on me before. It was a little heavy, but far from unmanagable. European Steel (save for the one ChiCom mag; it's Asian from Asia). Here I am, 5'11" standing straight, 130lbs., not really in that great of shape.

Now add the weight of the NBC suit, Stahlhelm, PASGT vest, Canteen, med kit, radio, and MRE's.

Still not that bad. Current US Army loadout is ~75lbs when everything is being carried. Soldiers will ditch whatever is useless.

[Veceria]

Standard issue post Vietnam was three 20 round mags, six if you were line infantry. I'm not sure how many mags were issued to in infantry - I remember something about it being 4 or 5 mags, but can't be sure - but on at least one occasion troops ran low on ammunition, had some dropped to them, ran over to the ammo tins and found that they needed to load individual rounds. This, IIRC, lead to more magazines being issued to combat troops.

I, personally, would issue five to seven 30 round magazines, plus 180 rounds or so on 10 round clips.

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

Vecerian standard issue is 6 20rd mags of 7.62x54mm VCR in ammo pouches on their armor, plus one on the weapon itself. It's not that heavy

[Tule]

Now add the weight of the NBC suit, Stahlhelm, PASGT vest, Canteen, med kit, radio, and MRE's.

Still not that bad. Current US Army loadout is ~75lbs when everything is being carried. Soldiers will ditch whatever is useless.

I'm trying to keep the combat load under 25 Kg (55 lbs)