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Who will OP MMW Number 9?

Nua Corda
75
39%
Kouralia
25
13%
Spreewerke
46
24%
Coltarin
21
11%
Aqizithiuda
26
13%
 
Total votes : 193

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Central and Eastern Visayas
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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:15 am

United Republics of Aralon wrote:-gun porn for the gun porn god-

"Lethality is questionable though."
But it is 5.7 FN--the "love it or hate it" round in American gun politics.

"...just not for me, due to my small hands. 15 rounds of .45 glory."
Would a classic single-stacked 1911 work? :)

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:16 am

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Can't really find much of what I'm wanting to know quickly, so I'll propose the following:


H&K USP Compact, .45ACP versus SIG SAUER P220 SAO (.45ACP).

Thoughts? Opinions?

USP wins. IMHO, once you have a decent cartridge,capacity is everything pistol wise.The USP also recoils nicely, due to the dual springs.
BY that logic I present you,the MOAP The mother of all pistols, and the two second greatest.In other words, the good, the bad and the fugly.
The GOOD: Shoots nice and straight trough armor,20 times if need be. Lethality is questionable though.
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The BAD(-ASS) and the greatest, just not for me, due to my small hands. 15 rounds of .45 glory.
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The FUGLY: but super. 15 rounds of.357sig perfection (I think it is close to being the perfect blend of power,ballistics and controllabilty) in, a well fugly, but proven package.
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Shoots through armour 18 times if need be, reliable terminal ballistics. Could be improved by making in 9x21mm or 7.62x25mm, but still badass in it's own right.
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Postby Graznovia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:21 am

:rofl:
I have no idea what that is supposed to, but if anything, the mention of 9x21 suggests it must be Russian, and 18 rounds seems quite the giveaway - the 'Russian Glock' a.k.a GsH-18 perhaps?

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Postby Central and Eastern Visayas » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:23 am

Graznovia wrote::rofl:
I have no idea what that is supposed to, but if anything, the mention of 9x21 suggests it must be Russian, and 18 rounds seems quite the giveaway - the 'Russian Glock' a.k.a GsH-18 perhaps?

9x21mm? IIRC, there's also a 9x21mm IMI round.

It's safe to presume you can't load 9x21 Gyurza (that right?) in a 9x21 IMI pistol and vice versa, right?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:27 am

Graznovia wrote::rofl:
I have no idea what that is supposed to, but if anything, the mention of 9x21 suggests it must be Russian, and 18 rounds seems quite the giveaway - the 'Russian Glock' a.k.a GsH-18 perhaps?



Yup.

*toddles off to fix the picture*

Central and Eastern Visayas wrote:
Graznovia wrote::rofl:
I have no idea what that is supposed to, but if anything, the mention of 9x21 suggests it must be Russian, and 18 rounds seems quite the giveaway - the 'Russian Glock' a.k.a GsH-18 perhaps?

9x21mm? IIRC, there's also a 9x21mm IMI round.

It's safe to presume you can't load 9x21 Gyurza (that right?) in a 9x21 IMI pistol and vice versa, right?


I'm not sure. It would depend on round overall lengths.
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Postby Graznovia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:29 am

GsH-18 looks slightly fugly to me (prily the fore-end). Nowhere near as fugly as the 'boxy plastic pistols' though. It just feels like the Glock went through a Russian treatment.
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:29 am

Central and Eastern Visayas wrote:
United Republics of Aralon wrote:USP wins. IMHO, once you have a decent cartridge,capacity is everything pistol wise.The USP also recoils nicely, due to the dual springs.
BY that logic I present you,the MOAP The mother of all pistols, and the two second greatest.In other words, the good, the bad and the fugly.
The GOOD: Shoots nice and straight trough armor,20 times if need be. Lethality is questionable though.
(Image)

The BAD(-ASS) and the greatest, just not for me, due to my small hands. 15 rounds of .45 glory.
(Image)

The FUGLY: but super. 15 rounds of.357sig perfection (I think it is close to being the perfect blend of power,ballistics and controllabilty) in, a well fugly, but proven package.
(Image)
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"Lethality is questionable though."
But it is 5.7 FN--the "love it or hate it" round in American gun politics.

"...just not for me, due to my small hands. 15 rounds of .45 glory."
Would a classic single-stacked 1911 work? :)

Yeah, it is great 8)
By the way let me rant about the worst pistol I have ever held in my hands(that is not a large group though):
The INGLORIOUS PA-63:
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This pistol is a 9mm Makarov, and it has a longer grip than a FRIGGIN 1911. Wide too, but it has single stack with 8 ROUNDS.
A makarov variant ,that needs giant hands?! A Hi-Power has better grip.
Its length of pull is enormous. I bruised my finger trying to work the DA trigger single handedly. (two handed is not that terrible though)
And, the safety is positioned in such an awkward and B@TSHIT CRAZY position that I have to change grip to operate it, and a glock
trotting bad guy could empty the mag
in that time.But you must carry cocked and locked because of the crappy DA trigger.
An of course it is a product of my glorious homeland.

Your entries to the worst modern combat pistol contest?
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:31 am

Graznovia wrote:GsH-18 looks slightly fugly to me (prily the fore-end). Nowhere near as fugly as the 'boxy plastic pistols' though. It just feels like the Glock went through a Russian treatment.

Looks don't matter thats why I got a Glock in my top 3. Yeah I guess, the G31/5-7 and the GSh-18 are similar.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:33 am

Fordorsia Hardsuit Mk.2 ''Praeliator''

http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-Hardsuit-Mk-2-Praeliator-363667465?ga_submit_new=10%253A1365186674&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

Apparently people think it looks like those things from Bioshock? Is that a bad thing?
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:38 am

Graznovia wrote:GsH-18 looks slightly fugly to me (prily the fore-end). Nowhere near as fugly as the 'boxy plastic pistols' though. It just feels like the Glock went through a Russian treatment.


GLOCK IS OF WESTERN COMPLICATION. GSH-18 IS SIMPLE SO EVEN STUPID CONSCRIPT SASHA CAN USE. GLORIOUS GSH-18 MAKE GLOCK LOOK LIKE M16!

Fordorsia wrote:Fordorsia Hardsuit Mk.2 ''Praeliator''

http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-Hardsuit-Mk-2-Praeliator-363667465?ga_submit_new=10%253A1365186674&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

Apparently people think it looks like those things from Bioshock? Is that a bad thing?


No.

I'm really digging the design, too!
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Postby Alimeria- » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:41 am

Fordorsia wrote:Fordorsia Hardsuit Mk.2 ''Praeliator''

http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-Hardsuit-Mk-2-Praeliator-363667465?ga_submit_new=10%253A1365186674&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

Apparently people think it looks like those things from Bioshock? Is that a bad thing?

Does rather resemble the Big Daddies if they had guns instead of drills. I don't really know whether to say that's good or bad.

Aqizithiuda wrote:2) the P90 style action has existed in one form or another since 1949 ( http://www.google.com/patents/US2624241). The top mounted magazine was designed in '53 ( http://www.google.com/patents/US2773325 ).

Also, these P90 ancestors are very interesting. And now I'm wondering if such a concept would work with .45 ACP or something similar/based on .45.

Because I am a dirty .45 worshiper.
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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:42 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Graznovia wrote:GsH-18 looks slightly fugly to me (prily the fore-end). Nowhere near as fugly as the 'boxy plastic pistols' though. It just feels like the Glock went through a Russian treatment.


GLOCK IS OF WESTERN COMPLICATION. GSH-18 IS SIMPLE SO EVEN STUPID CONSCRIPT SASHA CAN USE. GLORIOUS GSH-18 MAKE GLOCK LOOK LIKE M16!

Fordorsia wrote:Fordorsia Hardsuit Mk.2 ''Praeliator''

http://airborneleaf.deviantart.com/art/Fordorsia-Hardsuit-Mk-2-Praeliator-363667465?ga_submit_new=10%253A1365186674&ga_type=edit&ga_changes=1&ga_recent=1

Apparently people think it looks like those things from Bioshock? Is that a bad thing?


No.

I'm really digging the design, too!


Woot! Thanks.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:45 am

Alright. So what I've gotten from this thread so far in, "If you had to choose a SIG P220 SAO or an HK USP45 Compact for concealed carry, what would you choose?" I have gotten, "lolololFN45, Five-seveN body-armor-piercing-of-the-gods, and GLERK HANDGERN!"

All of my ways, guys, all of my wats.

Meanwhile, I think I'll just look into a CZ-75 Compact instead: she has said she prefers 9mm.

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Postby Amastol » Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:50 am

The GSH-18 is one of those 'Im so bad ass I dont have to look good' kinda guns. Its not much larger than a makarov, but carries 18 rounds of steel cored 9x19m 7n21 & PBP +P+ (equiv. or potentially hotter than that according to some sources) ammunition.

As for worst handgun, no question, its the Shevchenko PSh-4 from the Ukraine. Its basically the definite 'NS Noob Pistol' from its strange mixture and mash up of outdated concepts and badly implemented design.
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:07 pm

Spreewerke wrote:Alright. So what I've gotten from this thread so far in, "If you had to choose a SIG P220 SAO or an HK USP45 Compact for concealed carry, what would you choose?" I have gotten, "lolololFN45, Five-seveN body-armor-piercing-of-the-gods, and GLERK HANDGERN!"

All of my ways, guys, all of my wats.

Meanwhile, I think I'll just look into a CZ-75 Compact instead: she has said she prefers 9mm.

You didn't explicitly said concealed for personal carry .I just wouldn't use a compact pistol at all for uniformed duty. If I could own a gun it would be one of these, because I wouldn't want a double stack for .45 for concealed carry nor a P220:
The GOOD: Because 1911like Thats why. With no hammer, thats why. 9mm Para Kimber Solo
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The other good one: Nuff said.
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The BAD(ASS): SIG M11-A1 used by the US
airforce.
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The UGLY: but innovative the Boberg XR-9 L 9mm Para
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Other worst combat handgun entries?
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:15 pm

Amastol wrote:The GSH-18 is one of those 'Im so bad ass I dont have to look good' kinda guns. Its not much larger than a makarov, but carries 18 rounds of steel cored 9x19m 7n21 & PBP +P+ (equiv. or potentially hotter than that according to some sources) ammunition.

As for worst handgun, no question, its the Shevchenko PSh-4 from the Ukraine. Its basically the definite 'NS Noob Pistol' from its strange mixture and mash up of outdated concepts and badly implemented design.

Ohmygod. *closes eyes, peeks out terrifed*
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Gsh-18: Good gun no doubt, I would love to see vids on how it shoots that hp round.I think a .357 sig APCR would have very similar performance. If I ever launch a current tech alt, our service handgun will use such a round, I guess.
Or a .357 sig APCOT( Armor Piercing ,Composite Open Tip.) A light JHP with plastic nose cap and a steel/tungsten carbide penetrator rod. No Hauge convention in NS ;)
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Postby Puzikas » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:22 pm

Spreewerke wrote:Alright. So what I've gotten from this thread so far in, "If you had to choose a SIG P220 SAO or an HK USP45 Compact for concealed carry, what would you choose?" I have gotten, "lolololFN45, Five-seveN body-armor-piercing-of-the-gods, and GLERK HANDGERN!"

All of my ways, guys, all of my wats.

Meanwhile, I think I'll just look into a CZ-75 Compact instead: she has said she prefers 9mm.

Did you not get my bloody text? :P

Please to not be insult of GSH-18. Pistol is of glorious, and its literary the best pistol I have ever fired in my life. It never broke, it never jammed, and I had exactly zeros issues with it ever. It was and is my single favorite pistol in ever. I wish, and hope, that they become imported to the US some day.
And its NOT ugly. Its beautiful in the same way any other Soviet weapon is. You think the AK is beautiful? SKS? PM? SVD? PK Machine Gun? Then you should find the GSh-18 too. Its beautiful in the scene of utilitarianship.

Also, Kimber is really a bad idea.
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Postby Coltarin » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:23 pm

Ulfr-Reich wrote:
Triplebaconation wrote:(Image)

Is this exist?




Coltarin's firearms are FAR more credible than any of that call of nonsense/huey/sillyness. I mean, damn, just look at the all the work that went into that rifle.

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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:33 pm

Fordorsia wrote:I think I recall people discussing hardsuits and power armour. Viva la Fordorsia.

Too large to post a picture
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Cameras would provide some shitty viewing and the live feed wouldn't be around for some time.

Should just have a small vision slot.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:37 pm

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Alright. So what I've gotten from this thread so far in, "If you had to choose a SIG P220 SAO or an HK USP45 Compact for concealed carry, what would you choose?" I have gotten, "lolololFN45, Five-seveN body-armor-piercing-of-the-gods, and GLERK HANDGERN!"

All of my ways, guys, all of my wats.

Meanwhile, I think I'll just look into a CZ-75 Compact instead: she has said she prefers 9mm.

You didn't explicitly said concealed for personal carry .I just wouldn't use a compact pistol at all for uniformed duty. If I could own a gun it would be one of these, because I wouldn't want a double stack for .45 for concealed carry nor a P220:
The GOOD: Because 1911like Thats why. With no hammer, thats why. 9mm Para Kimber Solo
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The other good one: Nuff said.
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The BAD(ASS): SIG M11-A1 used by the US
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The UGLY: but innovative the Boberg XR-9 L 9mm Para
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Spreewerke wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
USP is overrated.

Mk. 23 SOCOM is were it is at.



Little hard to tuck a Mk. 23 into an IWB holster. Probably should have clarified that this will be something for discrete carry.




Maybe I did, maybe I didn't. :lol2:



Also, as for the worst combat handgun, fuck my Nagant. I like the gas seal and the hammer transfer bar (yeah, Ruger, that design of yours sure was original, you penis-weiner), but almost everything else sucks about it. Sights aren't too horrific, but they aren't that fantastic, either. The round itself is compared to .32 S&W in terms of power frequently, ejecting casings is a bitch since they like to get stuck, the 20lbDA/~7lb?SA trigger pull is atrocious, but fun!, and the grip is a little goofy itself. Fortunately, it's built like a tank (smells like one, too) and is almost impossible to break. I can understand why people chose them for killing themselves, though. GULAG NAGANT BEST NAGANT.

Anything any military ever fielded in .25ACP is/was also capable of being justifiably labeled as retarded.

The Nambus were also worth noting for being sad ventures into the handgun world by Japan. Specifically the later model that went off if it brushed up against your side or moved a bit in its holster.



Also, Puzikas, yes... I got your text... ;)

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Postby Fordorsia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:41 pm

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Fordorsia wrote:I think I recall people discussing hardsuits and power armour. Viva la Fordorsia.

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Cameras would provide some shitty viewing and the live feed wouldn't be around for some time.

Should just have a small vision slot.


It's an alternate universe. Cameras were better at the time. Also, did you not read the description about the helmet rising to provide a vision slot if the cameras stopped working?
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Postby United Republics of Aralon » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:43 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:Alright. So what I've gotten from this thread so far in, "If you had to choose a SIG P220 SAO or an HK USP45 Compact for concealed carry, what would you choose?" I have gotten, "lolololFN45, Five-seveN body-armor-piercing-of-the-gods, and GLERK HANDGERN!"

All of my ways, guys, all of my wats.

Meanwhile, I think I'll just look into a CZ-75 Compact instead: she has said she prefers 9mm.

Did you not get my bloody text? :P

Please to not be insult of GSH-18. Pistol is of glorious, and its literary the best pistol I have ever fired in my life. It never broke, it never jammed, and I had exactly zeros issues with it ever. It was and is my single favorite pistol in ever. I wish, and hope, that they become imported to the US some day.
And its NOT ugly. Its beautiful in the same way any other Soviet weapon is. You think the AK is beautiful? SKS? PM? SVD? PK Machine Gun? Then you should find the GSh-18 too. Its beautiful in the scene of utilitarianship.

Also, Kimber is really a bad idea.

Why is Kimber bad? Quality issues? I heard the solo is reliable,but picky on the ammo. As long as quality ammo is run trough it, it shall have no issues. I dunno how the Kimber 1911s perform, however, I just picked a compact 1911 off the net.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:47 pm

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Did you not get my bloody text? :P

Please to not be insult of GSH-18. Pistol is of glorious, and its literary the best pistol I have ever fired in my life. It never broke, it never jammed, and I had exactly zeros issues with it ever. It was and is my single favorite pistol in ever. I wish, and hope, that they become imported to the US some day.
And its NOT ugly. Its beautiful in the same way any other Soviet weapon is. You think the AK is beautiful? SKS? PM? SVD? PK Machine Gun? Then you should find the GSh-18 too. Its beautiful in the scene of utilitarianship.

Also, Kimber is really a bad idea.

Why is Kimber bad? Quality issues? I headr the solo is reliable,but picky on the ammo as long as quality ammo is run trough it it shall have no issue. I dunno how the Kimber 1911s perform, however, I just picked a compact 1911 off the net.



All I know is that their current wait time for non-customs is pulling further and further ahead of NFA paperwork wait times. That, and they really don't offer anything spectacular on the 1911 platform that you can't just do yourself rather easily. Then again, I never looked too far into what they do since I never got on board the 1911 customization train.
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Postby Black Hand » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:48 pm

United Republics of Aralon wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Did you not get my bloody text? :P

Please to not be insult of GSH-18. Pistol is of glorious, and its literary the best pistol I have ever fired in my life. It never broke, it never jammed, and I had exactly zeros issues with it ever. It was and is my single favorite pistol in ever. I wish, and hope, that they become imported to the US some day.
And its NOT ugly. Its beautiful in the same way any other Soviet weapon is. You think the AK is beautiful? SKS? PM? SVD? PK Machine Gun? Then you should find the GSh-18 too. Its beautiful in the scene of utilitarianship.

Also, Kimber is really a bad idea.

Why is Kimber bad? Quality issues? I headr the solo is reliable,but picky on the ammo as long as quality ammo is run trough it it shall have no issue. I dunno how the Kimber 1911s perform, however, I just picked a compact 1911 off the net.

You want 1911 Buy from Springfield or Colt They Work The Colt one's are also offered in a variety of calibers including the colt defender elite in beautiful 10mm.
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Postby San-Silvacian » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:49 pm

Black Hand wrote:
United Republics of Aralon wrote:Why is Kimber bad? Quality issues? I headr the solo is reliable,but picky on the ammo as long as quality ammo is run trough it it shall have no issue. I dunno how the Kimber 1911s perform, however, I just picked a compact 1911 off the net.

You want 1911 Buy from Springfield or Colt They Work The Colt one's are also offered in a variety of calibers including the colt defender elite in beautiful 10mm.


Springfield M1911s are from I hear horrible and made in foreign lands.

Rock Island Armoy 10mm Auto 1911 best 1911.
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