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Who will OP MMW Number 9?

Nua Corda
75
39%
Kouralia
25
13%
Spreewerke
46
24%
Coltarin
21
11%
Aqizithiuda
26
13%
 
Total votes : 193

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Stalingradna
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Founded: Feb 19, 2013
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Postby Stalingradna » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:27 pm

Benomia wrote:
Stalingradna wrote:...Hi.
What would make sense for an isolated russian city that has survived for hundreds of years to have?
I'm looking for something semi/full auto chambered in 7.62x54R for infantry corps.


Dragunov SVU-A.

...
Anything else?
EDIT: From reading past posts, top of page gun porn seems to be required. Therefore;
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EDIT 2: Better fireball
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Purpelia
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Postby Purpelia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:27 pm

Risen Britannia wrote:[WIP]
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It looks good, I won't deny that. But for some reason it looks a bit too unrealistic. Almost like something that belongs in a flash game. I don't know if this was what you were going for thou. But yea, looks good.
Purpelia does not reflect my actual world views. In fact, the vast majority of Purpelian cannon is meant to shock and thus deliberately insane. I just like playing with the idea of a country of madmen utterly convinced that everyone else are the barbarians. So play along or not but don't ever think it's for real.



The above post contains hyperbole, metaphoric language, embellishment and exaggeration. It may also include badly translated figures of speech and misused idioms. Analyze accordingly.

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Aqizithiuda
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:29 pm

Stalingradna wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Dragunov SVU-A.

...
Anything else?


SVT-40.
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Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:30 pm

Stalingradna wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Dragunov SVU-A.

...
Anything else?


Why would you need anything else? The SVU-A fits that description absolutely to the dime.
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
(-9.8, -10.0)
Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
Want me to explain life to you?

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Stalingradna
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Postby Stalingradna » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:30 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Stalingradna wrote:...
Anything else?


SVT-40.

Okay then, I'll take the Dragunov. Thanks.

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Gawdzendia
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Founded: Jan 17, 2010
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Postby Gawdzendia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:31 pm

Stalingradna wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Dragunov SVU-A.

...
Anything else?


Well, half this thread has gone ahead and ignored Benomia for a reason. :p

The SVT-40 was probably your semi-auto intermittent after a logical Mosin-Nagant period, if you were going to continue with 7.62mmR, you could have developed an automatic variant of the SVT-40 (kind've what happened with the Americans and the M1 Garand and the M14).
NATIONSTATES STATS USED IN THEIR ENTIRETY
GOVERNANCE: Chamber of Estates / Presidential Council
GOVERNMENT: Citizen Republic
President: Alexander Christensen

CAPITAL: Adonia City
OFFICIAL LANGUAGES: German, French, English
CURRENCY: Gawdzendian Dollar (GZD)

GENERAL AWARENESS & WEAPON DEPLOYMENT CONDITION
1 - PEACETIME
2 - HEIGHTENED AWARENESS
3 - EARLY MOBILIZATION
4 - MOBILIZATION
5 - SYMMETRICAL WARFARE
6 - NUCLEAR WARFARE
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Stalingradna
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Postby Stalingradna » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:32 pm

Gawdzendia wrote:
Stalingradna wrote:...
Anything else?


Well, half this thread has gone ahead and ignored Benomia for a reason. :p

The SVT-40 was probably your semi-auto intermittent after a logical Mosin-Nagant period, if you were going to continue with 7.62mmR, you could have developed an automatic variant of the SVT-40 (kind've what happened with the Americans and the M1 Garand and the M14).

An auto-SVT?
Interesting concept, but in MT?
I question it's effectiveness.

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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:32 pm

Just want to point out that the SVU-A is fully automatic.
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
(-9.8, -10.0)
Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
Want me to explain life to you?

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Stalingradna
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Postby Stalingradna » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:33 pm

Benomia wrote:Just want to point out that the SVU-A is fully automatic.

As I am aware.

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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:34 pm

Just makin' sure.
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
(-9.8, -10.0)
Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
Want me to explain life to you?

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Registug
Senator
 
Posts: 4792
Founded: Feb 25, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Registug » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:36 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Registug wrote:That SS battalion wasnt armed with 45s.

But that makes sense for Germany won war scenario.


Honestly, the SS battalion would be better off upgrading to all new kit, unless they were all engineers/scientists or were escorting a whole heap of engineers and scientists.

He said that he's going to transition to full on HK at some point.

I wish our region could get more newbies like him. We need more active RPers.

*ahem* *looks around thread*
<_<
>_>
Call me Garshne

Astrayan

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Gawdzendia
Minister
 
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Founded: Jan 17, 2010
Democratic Socialists

Postby Gawdzendia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:36 pm

Stalingradna wrote:
Gawdzendia wrote:
Well, half this thread has gone ahead and ignored Benomia for a reason. :p

The SVT-40 was probably your semi-auto intermittent after a logical Mosin-Nagant period, if you were going to continue with 7.62mmR, you could have developed an automatic variant of the SVT-40 (kind've what happened with the Americans and the M1 Garand and the M14).

An auto-SVT?
Interesting concept, but in MT?
I question it's effectiveness.


It would be of a similar ilk to the 'chummy' Battle Rifles of the Early Cold War, the M14, G3, FAL, etc, all of which fired in essence a full powered rifle cartridge, but nothing as manly as the 7.62mmR.

The SVU-A, in my humbled opinion, doesn't suit the look or feel of a city-state that has been isolated for centuries. If anything, it is too modern. A reliably built homebrew SVT-esque automatic rifle would probably have been enough to defend the city for the last fifty or so years, with progressive upgrades along the way. The SVU-A just seems too... much of a jump.
NATIONSTATES STATS USED IN THEIR ENTIRETY
GOVERNANCE: Chamber of Estates / Presidential Council
GOVERNMENT: Citizen Republic
President: Alexander Christensen

CAPITAL: Adonia City
OFFICIAL LANGUAGES: German, French, English
CURRENCY: Gawdzendian Dollar (GZD)

GENERAL AWARENESS & WEAPON DEPLOYMENT CONDITION
1 - PEACETIME
2 - HEIGHTENED AWARENESS
3 - EARLY MOBILIZATION
4 - MOBILIZATION
5 - SYMMETRICAL WARFARE
6 - NUCLEAR WARFARE
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Aqizithiuda
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:38 pm

Registug wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Honestly, the SS battalion would be better off upgrading to all new kit, unless they were all engineers/scientists or were escorting a whole heap of engineers and scientists.

He said that he's going to transition to full on HK at some point.

I wish our region could get more newbies like him. We need more active RPers.

*ahem* *looks around thread*
<_<
>_>


Heh.

I'd join, but I don't have the time needed.
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.


Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Gawdzendia
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Postby Gawdzendia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:43 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Registug wrote:He said that he's going to transition to full on HK at some point.

I wish our region could get more newbies like him. We need more active RPers.

*ahem* *looks around thread*
<_<
>_>


Heh.

I'd join, but I don't have the time needed.


Nonsense! You're just wasting too much time with this sleep hoo-haw! :)
NATIONSTATES STATS USED IN THEIR ENTIRETY
GOVERNANCE: Chamber of Estates / Presidential Council
GOVERNMENT: Citizen Republic
President: Alexander Christensen

CAPITAL: Adonia City
OFFICIAL LANGUAGES: German, French, English
CURRENCY: Gawdzendian Dollar (GZD)

GENERAL AWARENESS & WEAPON DEPLOYMENT CONDITION
1 - PEACETIME
2 - HEIGHTENED AWARENESS
3 - EARLY MOBILIZATION
4 - MOBILIZATION
5 - SYMMETRICAL WARFARE
6 - NUCLEAR WARFARE
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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:44 pm

Registug wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Honestly, the SS battalion would be better off upgrading to all new kit, unless they were all engineers/scientists or were escorting a whole heap of engineers and scientists.

He said that he's going to transition to full on HK at some point.

I wish our region could get more newbies like him. We need more active RPers.

*ahem* *looks around thread*
<_<
>_>


*thinks about raising hand*
*decides that it'd probably get shot*
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
(-9.8, -10.0)
Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
Want me to explain life to you?

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Stalingradna
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Postby Stalingradna » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:46 pm

Registug wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Honestly, the SS battalion would be better off upgrading to all new kit, unless they were all engineers/scientists or were escorting a whole heap of engineers and scientists.

He said that he's going to transition to full on HK at some point.

I wish our region could get more newbies like him. We need more active RPers.

*ahem* *looks around thread*
<_<
>_>

……*raises hand slowly*

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Aqizithiuda
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:46 pm

Gawdzendia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Heh.

I'd join, but I don't have the time needed.


Nonsense! You're just wasting too much time with this sleep hoo-haw! :)


I occasionally have to drive very heavy vans at highway speeds. Trust me, you want me well rested :p .
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.


Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Benomia
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Postby Benomia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:47 pm

*looks at the blood on floor*

*raises hand*

I'm an active RP'er who's got no idea what you're talking about, but is mildly interested.
Remembering games, and daisy chains, and laughs...Got to keep the loonies on the path.
The Archangel Conglomerate wrote:You've obviously never seen the Benomian M16A3s.
Carathon wrote:*Logs in with the name of Troll Alliance and writes a short app with poor grammar and logic.*Somehow genuinely surprised when denied*
Ragnarum wrote:Ragnarum transforms into a giant godzilla like creature, then walks into the sunset while emotional music plays and Morgan Freeman narrates.
Kouralia wrote:Everyone hates us: we're MMW. We're like the poster children of Realismfggtry.
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
(-9.8, -10.0)
Map of Benomia
NS's Resident Floydian
Left 4 Dead RP
Want me to explain life to you?

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Registug
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Postby Registug » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:53 pm

Benomia wrote:*looks at the blood on floor*

*raises hand*

I'm an active RP'er who's got no idea what you're talking about, but is mildly interested.

Not heard of Sapphire? We're rather notorious.

Let's see, Samoz is our delegate, RB is a member, Elan is a member, Ea90 used to be a member :<, Nesos Prettanice is a local, Nirvash also, Velkanika, Germania and me.

Funny, we're all quite active on the forums as well, it seems.

TG for more, I guess.
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Gawdzendia
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Postby Gawdzendia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:53 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Gawdzendia wrote:
Nonsense! You're just wasting too much time with this sleep hoo-haw! :)


I occasionally have to drive very heavy vans at highway speeds. Trust me, you want me well rested :p .


Image
NATIONSTATES STATS USED IN THEIR ENTIRETY
GOVERNANCE: Chamber of Estates / Presidential Council
GOVERNMENT: Citizen Republic
President: Alexander Christensen

CAPITAL: Adonia City
OFFICIAL LANGUAGES: German, French, English
CURRENCY: Gawdzendian Dollar (GZD)

GENERAL AWARENESS & WEAPON DEPLOYMENT CONDITION
1 - PEACETIME
2 - HEIGHTENED AWARENESS
3 - EARLY MOBILIZATION
4 - MOBILIZATION
5 - SYMMETRICAL WARFARE
6 - NUCLEAR WARFARE
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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:55 pm

Gawdzendia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
I occasionally have to drive very heavy vans at highway speeds. Trust me, you want me well rested :p .


Image

:rofl:

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Aqizithiuda
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:57 pm

Gawdzendia wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
I occasionally have to drive very heavy vans at highway speeds. Trust me, you want me well rested :p .


Image


There may or may not have been a similar incident :p .
Nationstatelandsville wrote:I liked the prostitute - never quote me on that.


Puzikas wrote:This is beyond condom on toes. This is full on Bra-on-balls.


Puzikas wrote:Im not cheep-You can quote me on that.


Hellraiser-Army wrote:and clearly I am surrounded by idiots who never looked at a blueprint before...


Live fire is not an effective means of communication.

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Hurtful Thoughts
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:59 pm

Stalingradna wrote:
Gawdzendia wrote:
Well, half this thread has gone ahead and ignored Benomia for a reason. :p

The SVT-40 was probably your semi-auto intermittent after a logical Mosin-Nagant period, if you were going to continue with 7.62mmR, you could have developed an automatic variant of the SVT-40 (kind've what happened with the Americans and the M1 Garand and the M14).

An auto-SVT?
Interesting concept, but in MT?
I question it's effectiveness.

AVT-40, yeah, they had it... but it really wasn't great...

DPM was better, and the RP-46 was replaced by the PK because it had a belt-box.

Now, the thing about the RP-46 design (which was copied from the DShK), is that it works with anything that has a fixed reciprocating bolt-handle.
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Factbook and general referance thread.
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Due to population-cuts, military-size currently being revised

The People's Republic of Hurtful Thoughts is a gargantuan, environmentally stunning nation, ruled by Leader with an even hand, and renowned for its compulsory military service, multi-spousal wedding ceremonies, and smutty television.
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Gawdzendia
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Postby Gawdzendia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:09 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Stalingradna wrote:An auto-SVT?
Interesting concept, but in MT?
I question it's effectiveness.

AVT-40, yeah, they had it... but it really wasn't great...

DPM was better, and the RP-46 was replaced by the PK because it had a belt-box.

Now, the thing about the RP-46 design (which was copied from the DShK), is that it works with anything that has a fixed reciprocating bolt-handle.


Oooh! A bunch of things I didn't know before that I have the fortune of knowing now!

Thank you good sir.
I was going to say thank you hurtful thoughts but it sounded weird...
NATIONSTATES STATS USED IN THEIR ENTIRETY
GOVERNANCE: Chamber of Estates / Presidential Council
GOVERNMENT: Citizen Republic
President: Alexander Christensen

CAPITAL: Adonia City
OFFICIAL LANGUAGES: German, French, English
CURRENCY: Gawdzendian Dollar (GZD)

GENERAL AWARENESS & WEAPON DEPLOYMENT CONDITION
1 - PEACETIME
2 - HEIGHTENED AWARENESS
3 - EARLY MOBILIZATION
4 - MOBILIZATION
5 - SYMMETRICAL WARFARE
6 - NUCLEAR WARFARE
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The Advancers
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Founded: Jan 06, 2013
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Postby The Advancers » Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:09 pm

Remember that WIP I posted earlier? Yeah, I got bored waiting for EVE to update and finished it.

Image

The Barrett-Winters M-504A3/KA-21g Area Suppression Weapon, Long Range Projectile is the standard dedicated-sniper weapon of the Corporate military. It features a powerful image-enhancement and nightops suite, a sophisticated recoil dampening system, and utilizes Smart Deploy technology to expand a camouflaged armour screen when in firing position.

Calibre: 20mm x 60mm
Preferred round: 20x60 APS (Anti-Personnel Shredder)
20x60 APX (Anti-Personnel Explosive)
20x60 AAPX (Anti-Armour Penetrative Explosive - delayed action explosive behind a penetrator dart)
20x60 AADN (Anti-Armour Defense Neutralizer - powerful acid capsule behind a cloud of microexplosives)
20x60(80) APB (Extension Anti-Personnel Bolt)
20x60 MRU (Multi-Role Utility)


About the Smart Deploy armour screen: this is what the huge panelly bits on the sides of the main body do.

Additional featurettes: the stock has non-functional additional magwells (one per side) to carry two spare magazines, for rapid ammo switching when prone.
The case eject is the panel just behind the bolt, with the bullet icon on it. It may seem short, but this is because it ejects casings backwards instead of straight sideways, to make it easier for the sniper to recover them when on covert ops.

So, what do y'all think? I'm worried I might have made the stock too long on this one, even though I shortened it twice in production...
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