Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[The Archangel Conglomerate]

Working on a new stock.

I would just like to redirect everyone's attention for a few days...

If its any help, I quite like the bottom one.

Gunporn

[A Hooloovoo]

Since page 44...



Feel lucky, punk?

[Kouralia]

Since page 44...

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Feel lucky, punk?

A better L44.

[Yes Im Biop]

Since page 44...

(Image)

Feel lucky, punk?

I own the top one, Only our's is full steel

[Tule]

Working on a new stock.

I would just like to redirect everyone's attention for a few days...

That baby could allow you to adjust your length of pull all the way to 40cm.

Your rifles are all excellent.

But they seem to be made entirely from ivory

[A Hooloovoo]

Some more 44 relatedness!

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Working on a new stock.
That baby could allow you to adjust your length of pull all the way to 40cm.

Your rifles are all excellent.

But they seem to be made entirely from ivory

#BALLER

[Vareiln]

Old .44

[Tule]

Your rifles are all excellent.

But they seem to be made entirely from ivory

#BALLER

I am so making a mess rifle with Ivory furniture.

[Benomia]

Since page 44...

(Image)

Feel lucky, punk?

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Right, so, if from closed my rifle stock can extend by 12 inches (allowing for 28-40" LoP) does seven positions graduated at two inches apart sound good?
I have no idea how adjustable stocks are typically graduated. Not sure if 5cm graduations are big or not, because there are two positions on this stock that would put your LoP directly either side of that of an M16A4.

DERRRRRRRRRPPPPPPP
It's extendable 28cm to 40cm. Not inches.
lel

[WSN7B]

For purposes of this I'm assuming we're playing by Geneva rules in terms of cartridge choice.

6.8mm English (.280 British if you must) on an armalite platform would be my pick. I've never had a problem with my service AR or my personally owned one, and I'd rather the oomph and range of 6.8mm English over smaller cartridges, without the weight of .308/7.62

Support weapon at the squad level would be a minimi chambered for the same.

Weapons platoon can carry FNs GPMG (MAG40) in 8mmx57 and I would ensure that every gunner had two AGs to carry ammo, because that would be heavy as all heck to carry enough to matter for any real distance over rough terrain.

Service pistol would be one of Kimber's higher end 1911s chambered for .45 GAP instead of ACP to allow for a more comfortable grip.


Pros for rifle cartridges:
-Accuracy
-Range
-Stopping power
-8x57mm will go through things.

Cons:
-Combat doesn't happen at 500 yards too often
-HEAVY!
-8x57mm will go through things.

.45 GAP
Pro
-Ballistically identical to .45ACP
-Smaller than .45ACP
-Stops people and things effectively

Con
-Recoil if you haven't started puberty.

[Puzikas]

Aqi has convinced me to change it to his 9x70 cartridge.
By my calculations its performance will be similar to the 9.3x64 round.
Were going to be using the same bullet as the three standard Russian service 9.3x64 rounds, SAP, AP, and FMJ.

To make up for its pants-on-head heavy weight of bullets, the systems weight will be 1.3kg less than the PKP, accomplishing this with lighter parts (Stock, handguard, grip to name a few). The recoil will be controlled via BARS system and an advanced muzzle break similar to the AN-94. It wall also dampen sound profile (Again, AN-94). Belts will be a lightweight material I am yet to determine.
Its also going to be a marksman round, 7SN2 series round. Ala SVDK.

I see. Well, I look forward to seeing it completed.

Quick question though. The marksman's rifle. Will it be an enlarged SVDK, or something altogether different?

Due to the larger round its going to be slightly longer SVDK. But I'm considering modifications.

[Nua Corda]

For purposes of this I'm assuming we're playing by Geneva rules in terms of cartridge choice.

6.8mm English (.280 British if you must) on an armalite platform would be my pick. I've never had a problem with my service AR or my personally owned one, and I'd rather the oomph and range of 6.8mm English over smaller cartridges, without the weight of .308/7.62

Support weapon at the squad level would be a minimi chambered for the same.

Weapons platoon can carry FNs GPMG (MAG40) in 8mmx57 and I would ensure that every gunner had two AGs to carry ammo, because that would be heavy as all heck to carry enough to matter for any real distance over rough terrain.

Service pistol would be one of Kimber's higher end 1911s chambered for .45 GAP instead of ACP to allow for a more comfortable grip.


Pros for rifle cartridges:
-Accuracy
-Range
-Stopping power
-8x57mm will go through things.

Cons:
-Combat doesn't happen at 500 yards too often
-HEAVY!
-8x57mm will go through things.

.45 GAP
Pro
-Ballistically identical to .45ACP
-Smaller than .45ACP
-Stops people and things effectively

Con
-Recoil if you haven't started puberty.

You do realized that .280 British is about as long as 7.62 NATO, and thus would need an AR-10 or FN MAG platform, correct? Don't get me wrong, it's a great cartridge, but it's battle-rifle sized, not intermediate.

For rifle rounds, 7mm is really the optimum. Things 8mm and above are only really good for long-range sniper or specialist cartridges (see .338 Lapua, 9.3x64mm). A 7mm round will have heaps better ballistics and very little sacrifice to penetration power.

If you want power and a more comfortable grip, 10mm Auto is more powerful and more accurate than .45 ACP or .45 GLOCK, and will give you more capacity in a thinner grip.

[The Advancers]

I can't be arsed to do any more work on this right now, so here it is: my first WIP post

Click for delicious image

The aim is for a heavy sniper/light AT rifle. It's not designed to be used free-standing unless you're strong and long-armed or an android. If it doesn't look like it would work for that, let me know now so I can change it before I do any more work.

[Aqizithiuda]

For purposes of this I'm assuming we're playing by Geneva rules in terms of cartridge choice.

6.8mm English (.280 British if you must) on an armalite platform would be my pick. I've never had a problem with my service AR or my personally owned one, and I'd rather the oomph and range of 6.8mm English over smaller cartridges, without the weight of .308/7.62

Support weapon at the squad level would be a minimi chambered for the same.

Weapons platoon can carry FNs GPMG (MAG40) in 8mmx57 and I would ensure that every gunner had two AGs to carry ammo, because that would be heavy as all heck to carry enough to matter for any real distance over rough terrain.

Service pistol would be one of Kimber's higher end 1911s chambered for .45 GAP instead of ACP to allow for a more comfortable grip.


Pros for rifle cartridges:
-Accuracy
-Range
-Stopping power
-8x57mm will go through things.

Cons:
-Combat doesn't happen at 500 yards too often
-HEAVY!
-8x57mm will go through things.

.45 GAP
Pro
-Ballistically identical to .45ACP
-Smaller than .45ACP
-Stops people and things effectively

Con
-Recoil if you haven't started puberty.

You do realized that .280 British is about as long as 7.62 NATO, and thus would need an AR-10 or FN MAG platform, correct? Don't get me wrong, it's a great cartridge, but it's battle-rifle sized, not intermediate.

For rifle rounds, 7mm is really the optimum. Things 8mm and above are only really good for long-range sniper or specialist cartridges (see .338 Lapua, 9.3x64mm). A 7mm round will have heaps better ballistics and very little sacrifice to penetration power.

If you want power and a more comfortable grip, 10mm Auto is more powerful and more accurate than .45 ACP or .45 GLOCK, and will give you more capacity in a thinner grip.

Except that it has a fierce recoil and somewhat excessive muzzle blast. There's a reason the .40 S&W was developed.

Now, in regards to intermediates, the .280B is indeed more a BR cartridge than an intermediate, and you won't any noticeable weight savings using it. Something between 6 and 7mm would be ideal, with bullet weights ranging from 85-140gr. A 6mm round with a 100gr bullet will provide the best ballidtics, while a 7mm round with a 140gr bullet will have the best wounding power. I, personally like to split the difference with a 120gr 6.5mm bullet, since the 6mm bullet doesn't offer enough increase in frontal area for me, and the ideal 7mm loading approaches low level BR ranges.

[Virana]

Woah.

I didn't realize it, but I've missed the first 44 pages of this thread.

[The Monopoly (Ancient)]

Our main weapon is the Aek-971

[San-Silvacian]

Our main weapon is the Aek-971 (Image)

Thats not an AEK-971.

[The Monopoly (Ancient)]

Our main weapon is the Aek-971 (Image)

Thats not an AEK-971.

Ooc: I know its a galil i couldnt find a good aek pic

[Tule]

Woah.

I didn't realize it, but I've missed the first 44 pages of this thread.

MMW Mk.IX will be here before April. I promise you.

[Registug]

The fuck did I say, guys? What did I effing say?

Repost because you guys can't read.

NEW RULE: Because I'm tired of the back and forth going on.

BEANO! Pls stop purposefully trying to be disrespectful. Yes I know the other guys are unfair and rather dickish recently. Yes I know it's your nation and you do what you want fuk da polese. I, however, don't want to see you banned over petty BS. So tone it down a bit.

EVERYONE ELSE! Enough with the asshatterry and dickheadedness directed at Benomia. Nua, you too. Yes he does get on your nerves, but that's no excuse to be an ass. It's an internet forum; chill out.

The "Beano posts something silly, people get mad and make fun, Beano posts something sillier, people get madder and harass, Beano posts something sillier, people get really mad" thing is getting old and annoying, so can we stop it before it starts?

I don't want to wake up and see this kind of behaiviour again. At all of you. Sheezus.

[Benomia]

When was I purposefully disrespectful?

[Registug]

When was I purposefully disrespectful?

No specific examples come to mind, because I have a terrible memory.
But!
Today's conversation about the aiming sights was that kind of no-go area.

And also, 'Mess Webley' is in-joke for 'kill yourself'. That's just poor behaiviour, guys. You don't tell someone to kill themself for making a bad design.

[The Republic of Lanos]

When was I purposefully disrespectful?

No specific examples come to mind, because I have a terrible memory.
But!
Today's conversation about the aiming sights was that kind of no-go area.

And also, 'Mess Webley' is in-joke for 'kill yourself'. That's just poor behaiviour, guys. You don't tell someone to kill themself for making a bad design.

I thought it meant "get out and think about what you did."