Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[Samozaryadnyastan]

Pump action seems strange for something with a rotary magazine.

[The Akasha Colony]

The likelyhood of the XM8 showing up in a "real steel" form outside of the US or one of HK's archive rooms is slim to none due to various legal and licensing issues. I suspect someone has seen pcitures of a bunch of airsofters dressed up as the malaysian spec forces running around with XM8 AEGs and assumed that it was a legit picture.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... n-Malaysia

Be pretty hard to fake it ejecting real brass like that.

Indeed, and so far all of the XM8 AEG kits I've seen look pretty goddamn cheap.

[GMC Military Arms]

Ah, I personally dislike how little barrel was exposed forcing the use of a spike bayonet. If it went with no visible barrel, then I would be alright, along with if it had more barrel (like the Jungle Carbine, Mauser, etc)

I don't think it was that, they just wanted to make the bayonet lighter and simpler and went way too far on both. IIRC the No. 7 knife bayonet and No. 9 blade bayonet can both fit on a No. 4, it's only the No. 5 which only goes on the Jungle Carbine. The No. 7 suffers from the disadvantage of having the most entirely stupid mounting method ever devised, mind you, which is why it was barely issued with the No. 4 since there were issues with bullets hitting the crosspiece.

[Allmann]

Pump action seems strange for something with a rotary magazine.

Aw.. forgot to add that it the way the Krag works could also be an idea for it.
Hm..

[3 State Alliance]

The Tiger .330 BR is designed to suit the wants of a large army and give them the range to counter any threats before they can get close (tanks pose a problem). It is a weapon for wold domination and possesses a massive recoil and weight, making it one of the worst weapons in history (next to the AK47)

The .45 Executioner is an internally silenced select fire pistol that has more in common with an SMG, so much to that very few users utilize a holster and instead rely on a sling. Like the Tiger it is cheap and designed for world domination.

There is no issued MG but some officers are issued an M12 automatic shotgun that is one of the best weapons in its class - until it jams. some exceptional soldiers receive telescopic sights but they are in a minority.

Scrap it. Redesign it or pick something sensible from IRL or NS.

The MRS-67, for example, will fit your intended role much better *winks, nudges*



Scrap this too. Also,

>integrally supressed
>cheap
>lol

No MGs? Automatic shotguns? Are your military commanders brain-dead or something? MGs are necessary, at company level at the VERY LEAST. Ideally, a GPMG should be platoon level and an LMG or LSW should be at squad or section level. Automatic shotguns are a niche weapon at best. And scopes on shotguns?

The .45 executioner was designed for special forces, when the first prototype failed, the design was modified repeatedly until it had gone from gas blowback to telescoping bolt, at some point it was given a select fire ability and fielded as an NCOs weapon. (Its crap, but the Spec Ops model is pretty good)

When the Tiger was introduced squads were equipped with M1 Garands (.30,06), Lee Enfeild .303 "Jungle Carbines" (solid little buggers, love that model) and .303 Brens all left over from WWII. Originally issued as a replacement for both the Enfield and Garand the Tiger was not well received until someone noted its unnerving ability to hit a man sized target at 800 yards (possible with an Enfield), and out-shoot the Garand. The one flaw was the weight but considering that it was the first new weapon to be issued in 60 years. Shortly after it was released the Bren was officially retired due to "extreme wear on all parts" leaving a unfilled gap that does make itself apparent in every conflict.

The main reason the Tiger is used is due to a refusal to utilize foreign produced weapons.

And no the scope is not for the shotguns, but is special issue for some riflemen.

[Puzikas]

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I emplore you to go back and read what else was said.

[3 State Alliance]

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I emplore you to go back and read what else was said.

I'll do a redesign, less weight, smaller round, more commie style aesthetics.

Thanks for breaking down all the assorted flaws.

[Crookfur]

The San Juan Dragoons have adopted the Gallager Breechloading Carbine
It uses brass cases loaded with ball & powder that are externally primed with a percussion musket cap

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Due to the fact that the Dragoons use heavy gloves, the lack of a handguard is not an issue

preach it brother

Especially the weird mix n' match and half baked stuff from the mid 1800s like this.

[Atalantium]

my country has very little weapons at all, but when pressed, we use bombs

[Aqizithiuda]

my country has very little weapons at all, but when pressed, we use bombs

In that case, prepare to be steamrolled by every man and his dog.

[Vareiln]

Well, this is a promising change from the usual.
Hopefully, this will set a trend of reproductions of WWII military rifles.

[Val Nube]

Coyotes had the dog surrounded last night. Dad ran them off with a shotgun blast, but they're still out there somewhere. Unacceptable.

I've got a .38 Colt Commander, an M1 Carbine, a detachable mag SKS, and a pump-action 12 gauge. What would be the best choice for putting these things down? Would they come back during the day?

A detachable mag SKS is good in any situation you would ever find yourself in ever.
Much better than those terrible western copies such as the M1.

I'm sorry, but are you seriously trying to imply that the M1 carbine is a "terrible western copy" of the SKS?

[Vareiln]

A detachable mag SKS is good in any situation you would ever find yourself in ever.
Much better than those terrible western copies such as the M1.

No. No no no no no no no no no no. A thousand times no.
And the M1 is not at all a copy of the SKS. It was developed before the SKS was even a prototype.

[Aqizithiuda]

Well, this is a promising change from the usual.
Hopefully, this will set a trend of reproductions of WWII military rifles.

I need to get rich and move to America.

[Vareiln]

Well, this is a promising change from the usual.
Hopefully, this will set a trend of reproductions of WWII military rifles.

I need to get rich and move to America.

I just need to get rich.

[Nua Corda]

Well, this is a promising change from the usual.
Hopefully, this will set a trend of reproductions of WWII military rifles.

Ick. A Ljungman rifle would be a much better WWII rifle to reproduce.

[Yes Im Biop]

Anyone have a good idea as to how big a Elephant gun style rifle should be if it's a Mainline weapon? Think 1890's type tech)

[Ea90]

badideatm

[Yes Im Biop]

badideatm

The hell

[Ea90]

Bad Idea™

[Yes Im Biop]

Bad Idea™

Then just say that.

[Puzikas]

Anyone have a good idea as to how big a Elephant gun style rifle should be if it's a Mainline weapon? Think 1890's type tech)

Not a great idea. But if you insist, .375H&H.

[Yes Im Biop]

Anyone have a good idea as to how big a Elephant gun style rifle should be if it's a Mainline weapon? Think 1890's type tech)

Not a great idea. But if you insist, .375H&H.

My Nation took an odd tech leap path (Jumped from Muzzle Loader's to Breech Loading rifle's.). And Ok

[Puzikas]

Not a great idea. But if you insist, .375H&H.

My Nation took an odd tech leap path (Jumped from Muzzle Loader's to Breech Loading rifle's.). And Ok

The actually a bit too modern.
Maybe try .470 Nitro.

[Yes Im Biop]

My Nation took an odd tech leap path (Jumped from Muzzle Loader's to Breech Loading rifle's.). And Ok

The actually a bit too modern.
Maybe try .470 Nitro.

OK That I will try Instead. Much bigger. Sound's fun.