Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

by **San-Silvacian** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:24 pm

Defensor wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Those damn liberals calling everything an assault weapon.

Ha, last term I heard was "High Powered Murder Weapon". Yeah, top that!

Sounds like a Heavy Metal Band.

inb4democratsbanassaultmetal

Also,

I apologize for all the bad things I have ever said about MAGPUL.

I now hate FAB.

by **Voldoviana** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:24 pm

Roskraina wrote:Springfield Armory SOCOM II rifle? (Image) Would like to try it

Oh wow does that look front heavy.

by **Defensor** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:25 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Defensor wrote:Ha, last term I heard was "High Powered Murder Weapon". Yeah, top that!

Sounds like a Heavy Metal Band.

inb4democratsbanassaultmetal

Also,

I apologize for all the bad things I have ever said about MAGPUL.

I now hate FAB.

Ooooohh, MAGPUL = my lucrative material I hide from my wife for use in the bathroom

by **San-Silvacian** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:26 pm

Voldoviana wrote:
Roskraina wrote:Springfield Armory SOCOM II rifle? (Image) Would like to try it

Oh wow does that look front heavy.

Hm?

Defensor wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:
Sounds like a Heavy Metal Band.

inb4democratsbanassaultmetal

Also,

I apologize for all the bad things I have ever said about MAGPUL.

I now hate FAB.

Ooooohh, MAGPUL = my lucrative material I hide from my wife for use in the bathroom

I've never been a fan of MAGPUL. But I'd take a MAGPUL'd M4A1 (Better yet AR-18 for max Corda) instead of that.

by **Defensor** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:28 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Voldoviana wrote:Oh wow does that look front heavy.

Hm?

Defensor wrote:Ooooohh, MAGPUL = my lucrative material I hide from my wife for use in the bathroom

I've never been a fan of MAGPUL. But I'd take a MAGPUL'd M4A1 (Better yet AR-18 for max Corda) instead of that.

I agree. Idk, MAGPUL has a style about it that I like. Especially when thrown on an AR-10 (or AR-18). For an M4 I'd stick with lighter modifications.

by **Aqizithiuda** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:29 am

AR-10 in 9x70mm for squad DMR y/y?

by **Registug** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:43 am

Taking a stab in the dark

...Y...

by **Aqizithiuda** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:47 am

Registug wrote:Taking a stab in the dark

...Y...

Think 9.3x64mm Brenneke, but longer and slimmer.

by **Roskraina** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:40 am

Did a proposed weapons list for the armed forces and the militarized institutions for my country. Below is the list, it does not include grenade launchers, anti-tank weapons and stuff like that. Feel free to comment, any help is appreciated. There are no images, there will be too many of them this time.

It would be interesting to test the so called "noiseless weapons" that the Soviet Union worked with, heard about a pistol and revolver were tested. Not sure if they entered production. Also thought about adding the UTS-15, but this weapons seems to brake just by looking at it. Or has it been improved?

For militsiya I thought about the CZ 75 P-07 Duty. For regular military the Heckler & Koch .45 USP will be my option. For special ops forces and security forces under the Ministry of Internal Affairs I can't decide if the HK USP Tactical, the MK 23 SOCOM or the FN FNX -45 Tactical is the best choice.

The main assault rifle is the AEK-973S. Some usage of the HK G3 and Steyr AUG A3 SF. The Presidential Security Service uses the OTs-02 Kiparis and PP-2000 as their main weapons.

Sniper rifles are SV-98, Orsis T-5000 .338 LM and Steyr HS .50 M1.

Mossberg 590 SP and Saiga-12 for shotguns. Would like to have a 10-89 or 12-89 shotgun, but is one needed for military use? The normal 12-76 is powerful enough. Not sure what these are in US calibers.

RG-6 grenade launcher.

There should also be other weapons on trial.

by **Registug** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:33 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Registug wrote:Taking a stab in the dark

...Y...

Think 9.3x64mm Brenneke, but longer and slimmer.

I don't know what that is!

Just judging from what people have said in the past, it seems like a good idea. All I know is that I recognise that "9x70mm" sounds like the kind of thing people would go for.

I know that it is some sort of bullet!

That's really all...

by **Dotanga** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:41 am

As a mostly peaceful country, I'd like to say our main weapon is intellect, however when military is involved, we'd much prefer distance fighting to actual physical combat.
Things such as unmanned drones, remote missile strikes, remote submarines and the like.
These are rather pointless however, as we have no desire to move militarily or attack at all. What's so bad about being an isolated island country who just wants to learn?

by **Aqizithiuda** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 2:46 am

Registug wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Think 9.3x64mm Brenneke, but longer and slimmer.

I don't know what that is!

Just judging from what people have said in the past, it seems like a good idea. All I know is that I recognise that "9x70mm" sounds like the kind of thing people would go for.

I know that it is some sort of bullet!

That's really all...

It's a pretty powerful round. Somewhere between the 8mm Mauser and the .338 Lapua in power, but without the Lapua's ballistics.

by **GMC Military Arms** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:02 am

Bajireyn wrote:Is it bad that I really like this gun?

Also, is that really a sten?

Yes, it's really a Sten. To be exact it's a Sten in an SL8 stock with a FAL recoil spring. I believe it is the happiest Sten there ever was.

Somewhat on topic (though this isn't for any of the nations I RP'd back in The Day), couple of sketches of a much-loved Etrusean rifle.

Little awkward because freehand and done in biro, stock on the second in particular didn't benefit from that but you get the general idea.

by **Benomia** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:06 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:AR-10 in 9x70mm for squad DMR y/y?

No.

Piston-powered AR-18 in 9x70mm.

Or, better yet, SVD in 9x70.

by **Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:26 am

LOLWAT. XM8 is in fact in service it seems?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_ ... #Equipment
XM8 is under that list...

by **Benomia** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:30 am

Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat wrote:LOLWAT. XM8 is in fact in service it seems?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_ ... #Equipment
XM8 is under that list...

You didn't know that?
We were talking a while back about how, even though it wasn't experimental anymore, no one calls it the "M8"...

by **Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:33 am

Benomia wrote:
Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat wrote:LOLWAT. XM8 is in fact in service it seems?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_ ... #Equipment
XM8 is under that list...

You didn't know that?
We were talking a while back about how, even though it wasn't experimental anymore, no one calls it the "M8"...

I thought project died out and nothing came of the weapon...

by **GMC Military Arms** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:35 am

Benomia wrote:We were talking a while back about how, even though it wasn't experimental anymore, no one calls it the "M8"...

Well, it's not the M8 because that would imply it had been adopted by the US military. Plus it has an X, which is very useful if you're an Xtreme Tacops Operator trying to stop Makarov before magic Havocs fly across the Atlantic and set up invisible walls everywhere.

by **Benomia** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:36 am

Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat wrote:
Benomia wrote:
You didn't know that?
We were talking a while back about how, even though it wasn't experimental anymore, no one calls it the "M8"...

I thought project died out and nothing came of the weapon...

The US military cancelled it, but it didn't die.

by **Benomia** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:43 am

PAI13A1E1 (XM6)

I fixed the grip. Happy now?

by **Sevvania** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:58 am

Coyotes had the dog surrounded last night. Dad ran them off with a shotgun blast, but they're still out there somewhere. Unacceptable.

I've got a .38 Colt Commander, an M1 Carbine, a detachable mag SKS, and a pump-action 12 gauge. What would be the best choice for putting these things down? Would they come back during the day?

by **Benomia** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 4:59 am

A detachable mag SKS is good in any situation you would ever find yourself in ever.
Much better than those terrible western copies such as the M1.

by **Tule** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:22 am

Aqizithiuda wrote:AR-10 in 9x70mm for squad DMR y/y?

N

DMR's are not snipers and have no need for such a massive round.

Use your BR cartridge, I personally use .30-06.

by **Crookfur** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:37 am

Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat wrote:LOLWAT. XM8 is in fact in service it seems?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_ ... #Equipment
XM8 is under that list...

Not everything you read on wiki is true...

if in doubt look for comfirmation either from a linked source or if one doesn;t exist then a repudable soruce like janes.

The likelyhood of the XM8 showing up in a "real steel" form outside of the US or one of HK's archive rooms is slim to none due to various legal and licensing issues. I suspect someone has seen pcitures of a bunch of airsofters dressed up as the malaysian spec forces running around with XM8 AEGs and assumed that it was a legit picture.

by **Crookfur** » Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:39 am

Benomia wrote:PAI13A1E1 (XM6)
(Image)
I fixed the grip. Happy now?

Is nice.

it does have a bit of the feel of the recent taurus carbines about it, which is a good thing imho.

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