Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[Voldoviana]

What about this nice H&K G3? (Image)

Seen a gold plated one, of course belonging to one of them Arabs. Wanted it badly!

That's a HK33, the 5.56x45 variant of the normally 7.62x51 G3.



Still, great 7.62. Not as reliable or robust as the FAL, but a sight more accurate.

[Nua Corda]

What about this nice H&K G3? (Image)

Seen a gold plated one, of course belonging to one of them Arabs. Wanted it badly!

That's not a G3. That is the 5.56 NATO variant (also not bad from my experiences).

G33, I believe. I personally find them a tad bulky and heavy for what they are. An AR-18 is a much better proposition.

But in a couple of days I get guns again so probley a rocket launcher would be my nations main wepon of choice.

All of my wut.

If I absolutely had to have a 9mm, it would probably be a Para-Ordinance M1911, or a SIG. I like the look of Ruger Pxx series pistols, but in my experience they stovepipe and jam regularly if not oiled religiously.



It's mildly cool-looking, but there are far sexier pistols IMO. Like a 10mm Auto, full-dust-jacket, slab-sided, underbarrel railed M1911 with Pachmyr American Legend grips, a parkerized frame and a nickle-plated slide.

I concur with the Sig, by far the best 9mm frame and design IMO. I'd have to muscle up the bravery to get near a 9mm 1911, so I'll let you know when that day comes what I think of it

I'm rather fond of SIGs. I wish they'd make one in 10mm Auto though. In the meantime, one must make do with .40 S&W

[Deutsche Demokratischer Volksstaat]

SIG, you say?
Classic SIG best SIG.
Unfortunately, does not come in .40 or, for you, 10mm.

[Puzikas]

Our current rifle is the MTAR equipped with NATO rounds and a Mars Red Dot Sight

Smells like cod in here.
Anyone got TARdier sauce?

Crossbows. It seems a little low teck but my country under treaty has to have these wepons. But in a couple of days I get guns again so probley a rocket launcher would be my nations main wepon of choice.

wut.

[Defensor]

That's not a G3. That is the 5.56 NATO variant (also not bad from my experiences).

G33, I believe. I personally find them a tad bulky and heavy for what they are. An AR-18 is a much better proposition.

But in a couple of days I get guns again so probley a rocket launcher would be my nations main wepon of choice.

All of my wut.

I concur with the Sig, by far the best 9mm frame and design IMO. I'd have to muscle up the bravery to get near a 9mm 1911, so I'll let you know when that day comes what I think of it

I'm rather fond of SIGs. I wish they'd make one in 10mm Auto though. In the meantime, one must make do with .40 S&W

Yeah, AR-18 is a more comfortable platform. And that is actually going to be one of my next purchases Sig .40 S&W. Just deciding on the size I want. That and I need a semi-auto 308...but I can't find one anywhere for under 2g that is if it's not sold out already...

[Spreewerke]

If only the K5 had been modernized over time rather than be stuck in 1989... Might have to still get me one some day, though. Same for a CZ-85B Combat.

Also, Daewoo K2 rules, AR-180 drools.

[Roskraina]

As a beginner in the wonderful world of firearms, I'm having rather a lot of difficulty at telling the models apart. But I see most of you here can

[Idaho Conservatives]

Speaking of gun panic, I saw a Hi-Point .45 go for $250 not long ago. A freakin' Hi-Point. You used to be able to buy them new for $100 less. When will this all end?

[Puzikas]

Speaking of gun panic, I saw a Hi-Point .45 go for $250 not long ago. A freakin' Hi-Point. You used to be able to buy them new for $100 less. When will this all end?

Pistol or rifle?
I have a rifle, they arent bad, worth the $300 I payed for it.
Pistol? Shit.

[Defensor]

Speaking of gun panic, I saw a Hi-Point .45 go for $250 not long ago. A freakin' Hi-Point. You used to be able to buy them new for $100 less. When will this all end?

Haha, I know right? Funny story, I found a Hi-Point that I bought in a pinch (don't ask) and brought it to Cabela's for a trade in.

I bought the damn thing for $100, the man said "Well, looks like all I can give you is $140." I was like, "Whhhaatt??". Haha, I sold it for more than I bought it for. What crazy times my friend. Now I'm wondering if I should've held on to it. Granted I have enough guns, but still!

Edit: One can never have too many guns...fack...

[Idaho Conservatives]

Speaking of gun panic, I saw a Hi-Point .45 go for $250 not long ago. A freakin' Hi-Point. You used to be able to buy them new for $100 less. When will this all end?

Pistol or rifle?
I have a rifle, they arent bad, worth the $300 I payed for it.
Pistol? Shit.

Pistol.

BTW, I don't get all the hate on Hi-Point pistols. They are cheap and cheerful lead-flingers, not something you'd take to a target shooting match or trust your life on. Set your expectations low and be surprised.

[Defensor]

Pistol or rifle?
I have a rifle, they arent bad, worth the $300 I payed for it.
Pistol? Shit.

Pistol.

BTW, I don't get all the hate on Hi-Point pistols. They are cheap and cheerful lead-flingers, not something you'd take to a target shooting match or trust your life on. Set your expectations low and be surprised.

Here here! *raises a mug of fine ale*

[Hodori]

I hate the number 9.

Look at her. You made her upset.

...She'll forget within a week or so.

[Puzikas]

Pistol or rifle?
I have a rifle, they arent bad, worth the $300 I payed for it.
Pistol? Shit.

Pistol.

BTW, I don't get all the hate on Hi-Point pistols. They are cheap and cheerful lead-flingers, not something you'd take to a target shooting match or trust your life on. Set your expectations low and be surprised.

I ave a mind for combat 95% of the time.

[Nua Corda]

Our current rifle is the MTAR equipped with NATO rounds and a Mars Red Dot Sight

Smells like cod in here.
Anyone got TARdier sauce?

CoD ruined the TAR-21. It's actually my first choice if I had to pick an existing rifle for my military. Light, reliable, accurate, bullpup. And AK inside!

If only the K5 had been modernized over time rather than be stuck in 1989... Might have to still get me one some day, though. Same for a CZ-85B Combat.

Also, Daewoo K2 rules, AR-180 drools.

AR-18 is lighter, less bulky and easier and cheaper to produce. Probably more reliable too, if only because :stampedsteeltolorences:. Looks classier too. The K2 looks like a humpback whale compared to an AR-18 or AR-15.

I hate the number 9.

Look at her. You made her upset.

...She'll forget within a week or so.

Well alrighty then... *is confused*

[Defensor]

Smells like cod in here.
Anyone got TARdier sauce?

CoD ruined the TAR-21. It's actually my first choice if I had to pick an existing rifle for my military. Light, reliable, accurate, bullpup. And AK inside!

If only the K5 had been modernized over time rather than be stuck in 1989... Might have to still get me one some day, though. Same for a CZ-85B Combat.

Also, Daewoo K2 rules, AR-180 drools.

AR-18 is lighter, less bulky and easier and cheaper to produce. Probably more reliable too, if only because :stampedsteeltolorences:. Looks classier too. The K2 looks like a humpback whale compared to an AR-18 or AR-15.

(Image)
Look at her. You made her upset.

...She'll forget within a week or so.

Well alrighty then... *is confused*

CoD ruined alot of things.

Also, NATO rounds...lol...

All it means is that if your troops die, my troops can use your troops' ammo. Haha, the hilarity of it all...

[Val Nube]

Speaking of gun panic, I saw a Hi-Point .45 go for $250 not long ago. A freakin' Hi-Point. You used to be able to buy them new for $100 less. When will this all end?

Never. It will never end.

On the subject of 9mm handguns...

[Spreewerke]

If only the K5 had been modernized over time rather than be stuck in 1989... Might have to still get me one some day, though. Same for a CZ-85B Combat.

Also, Daewoo K2 rules, AR-180 drools.

AR-18 is lighter, less bulky and easier and cheaper to produce. Probably more reliable too, if only because :stampedsteeltolorences:. Looks classier too. The K2 looks like a humpback whale compared to an AR-18 or AR-15.

The K2 is a heck of a lot simpler. Far less small parts to lose, too: that washer that holds the takedown pin in place on the AR-180 becomes a frisbee if you just poke it off of there. Nothing of that sorts on the 'Woo. Meanwhile, my father's pre-ban K2 has seen several thousands rounds from shit-surplus to Hornady V-Max to Federal Tracers and has never had a single malfunction of any kind whatsoever, even while using AR mags from the mid-1980s. Besides, you can customize a 'Woo more than an AR-180. You can get a spring-tension-held scope rail for an AR-180. You can get a quad-rail and, if post-ban, any style of stock you wish on a Daewoo. That, and it also has a wonderful, adjustable gas block valve to survive in any conditions.

[San-Silvacian]

Our current rifle is the MTAR equipped with NATO rounds and a Mars Red Dot Sight

wtf is a NATO round?

Does your gun shoot incompetence?

owait I mixed it up with UN round.

[Defensor]

AR-18 is lighter, less bulky and easier and cheaper to produce. Probably more reliable too, if only because :stampedsteeltolorences:. Looks classier too. The K2 looks like a humpback whale compared to an AR-18 or AR-15.

The K2 is a heck of a lot simpler. Far less small parts to lose, too: that washer that holds the takedown pin in place on the AR-180 becomes a frisbee if you just poke it off of there. Nothing of that sorts on the 'Woo. Meanwhile, my father's pre-ban K2 has seen several thousands rounds from shit-surplus to Hornady V-Max to Federal Tracers and has never had a single malfunction of any kind whatsoever, even while using AR mags from the mid-1980s. Besides, you can customize a 'Woo more than an AR-180. You can get a spring-tension-held scope rail for an AR-180. You can get a quad-rail and, if post-ban, any style of stock you wish on a Daewoo. That, and it also has a wonderful, adjustable gas block valve to survive in any conditions.

And it all boils down to the AR vs AK platform argument Will it never end?

[Spreewerke]

The K2 is a heck of a lot simpler. Far less small parts to lose, too: that washer that holds the takedown pin in place on the AR-180 becomes a frisbee if you just poke it off of there. Nothing of that sorts on the 'Woo. Meanwhile, my father's pre-ban K2 has seen several thousands rounds from shit-surplus to Hornady V-Max to Federal Tracers and has never had a single malfunction of any kind whatsoever, even while using AR mags from the mid-1980s. Besides, you can customize a 'Woo more than an AR-180. You can get a spring-tension-held scope rail for an AR-180. You can get a quad-rail and, if post-ban, any style of stock you wish on a Daewoo. That, and it also has a wonderful, adjustable gas block valve to survive in any conditions.

And it all boils down to the AR vs AK platform argument Will it never end?

It ended in 1994 when the AK-103 punched its way into existence, nullifying Chuck Norris' existence (as well as the existence of pretty much everything else).

[Defensor]

Our current rifle is the MTAR equipped with NATO rounds and a Mars Red Dot Sight

wtf is a NATO round?

Does your gun shoot incompetence?

owait I mixed it up with UN round.

NATO round. Not Actually a Tangable Object round

[Voldoviana]

Our current rifle is the MTAR equipped with NATO rounds and a Mars Red Dot Sight

wtf is a NATO round?

Does your gun shoot incompetence?

owait I mixed it up with UN round.

NATO and the Warsaw Pact standardized their nations ammo, with NATO taking the 7.62x51, 5.56x45 and 9x19 parabellum, while the Warsaw Pact took 7.62x54r, 7.62x39, 5.45x39 and 9x18.

[Defensor]

And it all boils down to the AR vs AK platform argument Will it never end?

It ended in 1994 when the AK-103 punched its way into existence, nullifying Chuck Norris' existence (as well as the existence of pretty much everything else).

I can argue from both sides of the fence, since I love and own a few of both platforms. A little bit of good in all of them

[Transnapastain]

Pistol or rifle?
I have a rifle, they arent bad, worth the $300 I payed for it.
Pistol? Shit.

Pistol.

BTW, I don't get all the hate on Hi-Point pistols. They are cheap and cheerful lead-flingers, not something you'd take to a target shooting match or trust your life on. Set your expectations low and be surprised.

"You know, I never got the hate on Ford Fiesta's. They're cheap little cars, they go, right? I mean, you'd never take it to an auto race or a long trip with your family, but, if you aim low..."

See what I did there? Justifying something as crap does not, by virtue of being crap, make it worth anything.

I know when you said "target shooting" you mean, like, competition and the like, but really, what else do you do with a gun but shoot it at the range and/or carry it and hope you never have to?

If you seriously are just buying a gun to go plinking at the range with, just get a .22, ammo's cheaper anyways, and I'll bet it doesn't explode in your face.

That said, supposedly, as Puz said, Hi-Point carbines are alright, I had one for about 4 days, never shot it so I can't say. Have shot a Hi-Point .45, was not impressed, but, I'll admit it didn't jam, explode or spawn demons at me. I've also read that Hi-Point is really, really making an effort to improve their reputation and quality.