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Who will OP MMW Number 9?

Nua Corda
75
39%
Kouralia
25
13%
Spreewerke
46
24%
Coltarin
21
11%
Aqizithiuda
26
13%
 
Total votes : 193

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Paupa-Moresby
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Postby Paupa-Moresby » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:17 pm

Paupa-Moresby's small defense force is largely armed with the slightly outdated, but reliable Swiss SIG550 series.

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:17 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Yay another non shorty!



Are you viking? :P


6 feet 5 inches
~200 lbs.

I'm not a viking I am descended of Welsh, Scottish and Irish stock. With a significant portion of "other European" thrown in for a good mix.

Now to stay on topic:

7mm×40mm
Type: Rifle
Origin: Erisinta
Designer: Manuel Arms
Case type: Telescoped Polymer
Bullet diameter: 7 mm
Base diameter: 11.5 mm
Overall length: 50mm
Rifling Twist: 1 in 12
Ballistics:
Bullet weight: 9 g, Velocity: 900 m/s, Energy 3,645 J (From a 500 mm barrel)

AR 2000 OR The Millennia Gun
Cartridge: 7mm×40mm
Action: Long stroke piston/ Swinging chamber
Rate of fire: 500 rounds/min
Effective range: 600 meters (standard, range varies with model)
Weight: 2.72 kg (unloaded, standard), 3.17 kg (loaded, standard)
Barrel Length: 504 mm(standard), 600 mm (DMR), 408 mm (carbine), 360 mm (PDW),
Total Length: 718 mm (standard), 814 mm (DMR), 622 mm (carbine), 574 mm (PDW),

Bull pup, 30 round detachable box magazine.

GPMG 2000 OR The Millennia Light Machine Gun
Cartridge: 7mm×40mm
Action: Long stroke piston/ Swinging chamber
Rate of fire: 650 rounds/min
Effective range: 800 meters
Weight: 4.8 kg (unloaded), 6.3 kg (loaded)
Barrel Length: 600 mm (standard), 504 mm (compact), 712 mm (support)
Total Length: 1100 mm (standard), 1000 mm (compact), 1212 mm (support)

Traditional layout, disintegrating belt standard 100 rounds.


Also I am thinking of adopting the KRISS VECTOR but in .40 S&W. Yes or NOOOOOO!
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Postby GMC Military Arms » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:21 pm

Vector would have been nice if TDI / ALLCAPS ARMS had invented it during the subgun boom in the 80s-90s, then bad guys started wearing BA and most people who weren't using subsonic loads switched to carbine rifles or P90s. Vector's strictly for mall ninjas.

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Postby 3 State Alliance » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:22 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Puzikas wrote:
Im with you.
though you are taller than me.

Edit:
6 feet 3 inches (190cm)
93.2kg (206lbs)


Yay another non shorty!

3 State Alliance wrote:TSA Regular Army Trooper's Combat Load: (Aprox)
1X Tiger BR - 25lbs
3X 16 round MAGAZINES - 2lbs each - 6lbs
1X Bayonet - 3lbs
1X Rations pack (powdered) - 2 days worth - 5lbs
1X sleeping bag - 5lbs (Summer)
1X Hygiene Kit - soap, razor, etc - 2lbs
uniform + boots - 5lbs

Total: 51lbs

"Forward Comrades!!!"

Well, have you ever tried hiking with 1/4th your body weight in gear? Because I have. I wouldn't call it a fun experience. And that is your combat load. With only 48 rounds of ammunition (if you include a magazine in the gun its 64), no body armor, water, cleaning kit, pack, flashlight, radio or other gear that would be smart to include. (Like grenades)

No as to your earlier points:
1. "By posting in this thread you are open to criticism" Thats in the OP somewhere. You can make whatever choice you want, and I can criticize it.
3. It isn't the end of the world but it is a distinction that should be made.
5. Your weapon weighs more than the M60. The tells you that the weight is wonky.


1. True that
3. Has been made
5. it needs a makeover to get the right look... I'm getting that - and its a horrifically large beast

About the question about a 1/4 of my body weight - yes and a 10foot kayak - Two trips are for pussies
The list is only required items and yes water would be handy... :palm:
As for the number of rounds, they enforce trigger discipline.
As for grenades - that's the point, they don't get grenades or a radios and flashlights make you visible in the dark.

Some one mentioned the low quality of the food, well once again not my problem.
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:23 pm

Paupa-Moresby wrote:Paupa-Moresby's small defense force is largely armed with the slightly outdated, but reliable Swiss SIG550 series.


Hey, thats still a wonderful gun. Good choice

Also, hi other miltech minded moderator! :P

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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:23 pm

3 State Alliance wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Yay another non shorty!


Well, have you ever tried hiking with 1/4th your body weight in gear? Because I have. I wouldn't call it a fun experience. And that is your combat load. With only 48 rounds of ammunition (if you include a magazine in the gun its 64), no body armor, water, cleaning kit, pack, flashlight, radio or other gear that would be smart to include. (Like grenades)

No as to your earlier points:
1. "By posting in this thread you are open to criticism" Thats in the OP somewhere. You can make whatever choice you want, and I can criticize it.
3. It isn't the end of the world but it is a distinction that should be made.
5. Your weapon weighs more than the M60. The tells you that the weight is wonky.


1. True that
3. Has been made
5. it needs a makeover to get the right look... I'm getting that - and its a horrifically large beast

About the question about a 1/4 of my body weight - yes and a 10foot kayak - Two trips are for pussies
The list is only required items and yes water would be handy... :palm:
As for the number of rounds, they enforce trigger discipline.
As for grenades - that's the point, they don't get grenades or a radios and flashlights make you visible in the dark.

Some one mentioned the low quality of the food, well once again not my problem.



>Gives troops shitty everything
>Gives them character
>????
>Global Domination

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Postby Benomia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:25 pm

If you ever go against me in a war, we'll decimate you because your soldiers will be completely unable to actually combat me.

Spreewerke wrote:
Benomia wrote:So basically, "I don't care what you say because I can lolgun"?


This is where you know things are getting intense.


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Postby Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:26 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
I have still literally never heard of this ever happening.



http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html? ... 4&t=201329


Looks like two isolated incidents of manufacturing defects. I'm sure the same thing has happened with AK mags.

3 State Alliance wrote:"Oh lord... another one...

1. .338 Lapua is an expensive-ass, match grade sniper cartridge. You should be using an intermediate.
2. Fucking no. That is a magazine.
3. Those ranges are bull for the .338
4. Literally no way it's that heavy.
5. Why are you going from polymer to wood? That's like replacing modern MBTs with WWII medium tanks.
6. Stock and pistol grip are overlapping.
7. Stock is preventing the receiver cover from being removed.
8. The SVD's receiver cover is not stable enough for sights or optics.
9. That is not how STANAG-pattern mags work.
10. Those magazines are way too short for .338 Lapua
11. Those foreends are overlapping your receiver in a manner which doesn't work.
12. The stock on the second model just needs to go. I can't even being to explain what's wrong here
13. The pistol grip and fire control unit on the third model would change the workings so much that it would effectively be a separate weapon."

1. I said "Based off the Lapua" not "Uses the Lapua"
2. second person to say that
3. once again "Based off the Lapua" not "Uses the Lapua"
4. PMG has no way to "Beef" up a gun to express the sheer weight
5. We were afraid the reduction in weight on the .330 would make the soldiers lazy
6. chill - its not the worst mistake one can make
7. Not my problem (but the guy who has to clean it...)
8. Based off the SVD, its no doubt been altered by the designers
9. they look like STANAGs, once again... They aren't STANAGs
10. I said "Based off the Lapua" not "Uses the Lapua"
11. I can't even figure out where the problem is
12. Its the best I could do on PMG, its two sheets of 1/4inch steel welded to a butt plate and bolted to the standard stock mounts
13. Ever heard of an E-Trigger? Its the same unit, but with a battery powered trigger for full-auto


1. Still a ridiculously useless round. You should be using an intermediate.
2. Can you offer a solution?
3. Soo, it's huge, and short. Wonderful. Rainbow trajectory here we come!
4. Probably because it's an incredibly dumb idea.
5. That's got nothing to do with anything, and is a terrible argument for doing anything.
6. Just pointing it out. Though, it is a rather egregious error.
7. Then it IS your problem, because your rifles will be jamming in the field and getting your soldiers killed, if they're not already throwing them in the nearest lake and picking up enemy weapons.
8. The type of modification required to make it stable enough would be visible. It's not.
9. But there's no notch/locking lip combo on them for that kind of magwell and release system.
12. That is literally the worst idea for a stock I have ever heard
13. There's no reason to do that whatsoever. And electronic triggers are dogey as hell. That's why we have backup sights for electronic sights; electronics break.

Benomia wrote:So basically, "I don't care what you say because I can lolgun"?


That would describe you to a T.

Benomia wrote:If you ever go against me in a war, we'll decimate you because your soldiers will be completely unable to actually combat me.

Spreewerke wrote:
This is where you know things are getting intense.


ikr


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Postby San-Silvacian » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:26 pm

3 State Alliance wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:
Yay another non shorty!


Well, have you ever tried hiking with 1/4th your body weight in gear? Because I have. I wouldn't call it a fun experience. And that is your combat load. With only 48 rounds of ammunition (if you include a magazine in the gun its 64), no body armor, water, cleaning kit, pack, flashlight, radio or other gear that would be smart to include. (Like grenades)

No as to your earlier points:
1. "By posting in this thread you are open to criticism" Thats in the OP somewhere. You can make whatever choice you want, and I can criticize it.
3. It isn't the end of the world but it is a distinction that should be made.
5. Your weapon weighs more than the M60. The tells you that the weight is wonky.


1. True that
3. Has been made
5. it needs a makeover to get the right look... I'm getting that - and its a horrifically large beast

About the question about a 1/4 of my body weight - yes and a 10foot kayak - Two trips are for pussies
The list is only required items and yes water would be handy... :palm:
As for the number of rounds, they enforce trigger discipline.
As for grenades - that's the point, they don't get grenades or a radios and flashlights make you visible in the dark.

Some one mentioned the low quality of the food, well once again not my problem.


Are you even listening to yourself?

Paupa-Moresby wrote:Paupa-Moresby's small defense force is largely armed with the slightly outdated, but reliable Swiss SIG550 series.


+550 for SG550

Its far from outdated boy-o. If a normal Swiss rifleman and a US Marine were to engage each other in a 100+ meter firefight, the SG550 would most likely out perform the M16A4.

I'm 5'9 and 150 pounds.

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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:28 pm

Nua Corda wrote:


Looks like two isolated incidents of manufacturing defects. I'm sure the same thing has happened with AK mags.



Sheared-off feed lips from AK mags? Maybe US-made synthetics, but nothing that's metal mil-spec that I've ever seen nor heard of.

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Postby Benomia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:29 pm

Am I the only one that noticed the moderator that only has thirty posts?
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Postby Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:30 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
Looks like two isolated incidents of manufacturing defects. I'm sure the same thing has happened with AK mags.



Sheared-off feed lips from AK mags? Maybe US-made synthetics, but nothing that's metal mil-spec that I've ever seen nor heard of.


Isolated manufacturing defects. It happens when you're mass producing anything.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:31 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Sheared-off feed lips from AK mags? Maybe US-made synthetics, but nothing that's metal mil-spec that I've ever seen nor heard of.


Isolated manufacturing defects. It happens when you're mass producing anything.


Save for steel-reinforced AK mags. ;)

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Postby Benomia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:33 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Benomia wrote:So basically, "I don't care what you say because I can lolgun"?


That would describe you to a T.


If that was the case, all of my weapons would have 100% exposed barrels with the magazines feeding through the grip. Needless to say, they don't.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:33 pm

Benomia wrote:Am I the only one that noticed the moderator that only has thirty posts?

Yeah I noticed him. Who cares? Seams like a nice guy.

GMC Military Arms wrote:Vector would have been nice if TDI / ALLCAPS ARMS had invented it during the subgun boom in the 80s-90s, then bad guys started wearing BA and most people who weren't using subsonic loads switched to carbine rifles or P90s. Vector's strictly for mall ninjas.


I have a PDW variant of my normal rifle (wee super short barrel) the Vector is supposed to go to only a small number of units/men who the PDW might not be suited for. Subsonic rounds being one of the nice things that it would offer.
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Postby Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:35 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
Isolated manufacturing defects. It happens when you're mass producing anything.


Save for steel-reinforced AK mags. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJrNbcUsMbE


I can guarantee there were defects. There are defective products in any mass produced run. What makes it seem more noticeable with the PMAGs is that they're being purchased by civilians, rather than the military which usually weeds out defective hardware, and then shuts up about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most steel AK mags in the US are surplus, yes? In which case the defective ones would have been weeded out by the military that used them before they hit the market.
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Postby Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:36 pm

Benomia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
That would describe you to a T.


If that was the case, all of my weapons would have 100% exposed barrels with the magazines feeding through the grip. Needless to say, they don't.


Have you looked at some of the things you've posted?
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Postby Benomia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:37 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Benomia wrote:
If that was the case, all of my weapons would have 100% exposed barrels with the magazines feeding through the grip. Needless to say, they don't.


Have you looked at some of the things you've posted?


Actually yes. Have I ignored anything anyone ever said? Nope. I can crawl through the Wayback Machine if you want proof.
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Postby Puzikas » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:38 pm

Benomia wrote:Am I the only one that noticed the moderator that only has thirty posts?


Posts dont matter in the least, I started posing here with, what, 87 posts? Its about what you know.
GMC Military Arms wrote:Vector would have been nice if TDI / ALLCAPS ARMS had invented it during the subgun boom in the 80s-90s, then bad guys started wearing BA and most people who weren't using subsonic loads switched to carbine rifles or P90s. Vector's strictly for mall ninjas.


The recoil system is pretty cool. I didn't shoot one for an extended period but it was a nice shooter
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Postby Transnapastain » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:38 pm

Benomia wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
Have you looked at some of the things you've posted?


Actually yes. Have I ignored anything anyone ever said? Nope. I can crawl through the Wayback Machine if you want proof.


You guys could both stop sniping at each other, thats what I'd prefer.
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Postby Benomia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:39 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Benomia wrote:Am I the only one that noticed the moderator that only has thirty posts?


Posts dont matter in the least, I started posing here with, what, 87 posts? Its about what you know.


I was more referring to how one would become a moderator within thirty posts.
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Postby Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:40 pm

Nua Corda wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:
Save for steel-reinforced AK mags. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJrNbcUsMbE


I can guarantee there were defects. There are defective products in any mass produced run. What makes it seem more noticeable with the PMAGs is that they're being purchased by civilians, rather than the military which usually weeds out defective hardware, and then shuts up about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most steel AK mags in the US are surplus, yes? In which case the defective ones would have been weeded out by the military that used them before they hit the market.



I have gotten AK magazines that have gone through various conflicts in Serbia that run perfectly fine. They have 0% of their original finish left, have floor plates bent to where they barely contact the magazine body itself, have dents in the sides of them, and some battlefield-mods applied with a welding torch of some kind.

No problems with 'em.

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Postby Puzikas » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:40 pm

Transnapastain wrote:You guys could both stop sniping at each other, thats what I'd prefer.


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Postby Benomia » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:41 pm

Transnapastain wrote:
Benomia wrote:
Actually yes. Have I ignored anything anyone ever said? Nope. I can crawl through the Wayback Machine if you want proof.


You guys could both stop sniping at each other, thats what I'd prefer.


I see what you did there.
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Postby Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:42 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Nua Corda wrote:
I can guarantee there were defects. There are defective products in any mass produced run. What makes it seem more noticeable with the PMAGs is that they're being purchased by civilians, rather than the military which usually weeds out defective hardware, and then shuts up about it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but most steel AK mags in the US are surplus, yes? In which case the defective ones would have been weeded out by the military that used them before they hit the market.



I have gotten AK magazines that have gone through various conflicts in Serbia that run perfectly fine. They have 0% of their original finish left, have floor plates bent to where they barely contact the magazine body itself, have dents in the sides of them, and some battlefield-mods applied with a welding torch of some kind.

No problems with 'em.


Nua Corda wrote:In which case the defective ones would have been weeded out by the military that used them before they hit the market.


;)
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