Main Military Weapon of your Country: Pattern VIII (Read OP)

[Yes Im Biop]

Still not that bad. Current US Army loadout is ~75lbs when everything is being carried. Soldiers will ditch whatever is useless.

I'm trying to keep the combat load under 25 Kg (55 lbs)

Use Caseless ammo? Lighter or less armor, Probably a smaller caliber gun if Caseless isn't available

[Tule]

I'm trying to keep the combat load under 25 Kg (55 lbs)

Use Caseless ammo? Lighter or less armor, Probably a smaller caliber gun if Caseless isn't available

Nuh uh.

...

But they hardly need two kidneys, do they?

[Yes Im Biop]

Use Caseless ammo? Lighter or less armor, Probably a smaller caliber gun if Caseless isn't available

Nuh uh.

...

But they hardly need two kidneys, do they?

Uh... Soldier's I think would...

[Puzikas]

Standard issue post Vietnam was three 20 round mags, six if you were line infantry. I'm not sure how many mags were issued to in infantry - I remember something about it being 4 or 5 mags, but can't be sure - but on at least one occasion troops ran low on ammunition, had some dropped to them, ran over to the ammo tins and found that they needed to load individual rounds. This, IIRC, lead to more magazines being issued to combat troops.

I, personally, would issue five to seven 30 round magazines, plus 180 rounds or so on 10 round clips.

AK ammo is heavy ;_;

Especially if you use 150 gr bullets like me (apparently it improves the ballistics immensely.)

AK ammo is heavy if your out of shape, maybe.
My PK gunner carried over 400 rounds of belted standard and Tracer, along with standard gear and never once did he complain.
Except for once. But it was hot. So excusable.

[Aqizithiuda]

Not as heavy as 7.62 NATO.

What MV are you getting with the 150gr loading?

About 2200 FPS at the muzzle out of a 16' barrel.

At 100 yards it catches up with the 123 grain bullets.

Not bad at all.

Still not that bad. Current US Army loadout is ~75lbs when everything is being carried. Soldiers will ditch whatever is useless.

I'm trying to keep the combat load under 25 Kg (55 lbs)

I doubt 3kg would make too big a difference in the grand scheme of things.

[Spreewerke]

Still not that bad. Current US Army loadout is ~75lbs when everything is being carried. Soldiers will ditch whatever is useless.

I'm trying to keep the combat load under 25 Kg (55 lbs)

You'll be fine. Loaded AK magazine weight is ~1.8lbs when using steel, I believe. That's barely above ten pounds for six magazines. If you're using Bulgarian Circle-Ten polymer magazines, it will probably be ~7lbs or so, guessing (can't find weights for them readily). That is 180 rounds on-hand in loaded magazines.

I have a bent spine and I was okay with carrying seven AK magazines (when counting the rifle's), while also wearing full cold-weather gear. Not nearly as inclusive as a military, per se, but it was far more heavy than I typically go.

[Tule]

I'm trying to keep the combat load under 25 Kg (55 lbs)

You'll be fine. Loaded AK magazine weight is ~1.8lbs when using steel, I believe. That's barely above ten pounds for six magazines. If you're using Bulgarian Circle-Ten polymer magazines, it will probably be ~7lbs or so, guessing (can't find weights for them readily). That is 180 rounds on-hand in loaded magazines.

I have a bent spine and I was okay with carrying seven AK magazines (when counting the rifle's), while also wearing full cold-weather gear. Not nearly as inclusive as a military, per se, but it was far more heavy than I typically go.

Rk 95 mags weigh 160 grams each.

Should probably be reliable enough if a military trusts them.

[GMC Military Arms]

Those are GMPGs.

I already have the MG3.

The only difference between a GPMG and an LMG is how you use it, from my understanding. I think they're pretty much interchangeable terms.

Strictly it's medium machine gun and GPMG that are mostly interchangeable. The classic definitions are:

LMG: Designed for short bursts while mobile, firing from a bipod. Modern versions usually use intermediate rounds.

MMG: Designed for sustained fire while stationary, firing from a tripod and almost always using a belt feed. Generally the definition requires it use a full-size rifle round.

GPMG: Able to perform in either role, essentially a light MMG.

There's a few confusing ones like one of the QB-series which is classified as a GPMG even though it uses an intermediate round, or the PKP which I hear is deployed as an LMG (bipod only). Or those crap Japanese WW2 Hotchkiss clones which didn't have a belt feed, fired rifle bullets and were only classified as "heavy" because they somehow weighed as much as US 50 cals.

[Idaho Conservatives]

My PK gunner carried over 400 rounds of belted standard and Tracer, along with standard gear and never once did he complain.
Except for once. But it was hot. So excusable.

I got an image in my mind of me packing around a spam can of 7.62 for an entire day, and just thinking about it makes my back hurt.

[Spreewerke]

My PK gunner carried over 400 rounds of belted standard and Tracer, along with standard gear and never once did he complain.
Except for once. But it was hot. So excusable.

I got an image in my mind of me packing around a spam can of 7.62 for an entire day, and just thinking about it makes my back hurt.

Lift with the legs!

[Purpelia]

Would it be unreasonable to expect every member of the squad to carry a 50-100 round belt of 7.5 Swiss in addition to their full combat load?

[Bajireyn]

(Image)

Looks like a lolcod gun.

I has scary black guns too. Not only is they scary, these guns they has secrets.

(Image)

Is it bad that I really like this gun?

Also, is that really a sten?

[Aqizithiuda]

Would it be unreasonable to expect every member of the squad to carry a 50-100 round belt of 7.5 Swiss in addition to their full combat load?

That depends on their loadout. I'm think yes in regards to every single member carrying a belt.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Would it be unreasonable to expect every member of the squad to carry a 50-100 round belt of 7.5 Swiss in addition to their full combat load?

Not at all. If your pack is as light as mine you should have ample room.

[Puzikas]

My PK gunner carried over 400 rounds of belted standard and Tracer, along with standard gear and never once did he complain.
Except for once. But it was hot. So excusable.

I got an image in my mind of me packing around a spam can of 7.62 for an entire day, and just thinking about it makes my back hurt.

Then carry a 19lb gun.

He had really big arms. I then that were like 420mm.

[Aqizithiuda]

I got an image in my mind of me packing around a spam can of 7.62 for an entire day, and just thinking about it makes my back hurt.

Then carry a 19lb gun.

He had really big arms. I then that were like 420mm.

Speaking of carrying a heavy load, how many rounds of 9x70mm do you think your average gunner could carry with your MG?

[Spreewerke]

I got an image in my mind of me packing around a spam can of 7.62 for an entire day, and just thinking about it makes my back hurt.

Then carry a 19lb gun.

He had really big arms. I then that were like 420mm.

[Puzikas]

Then carry a 19lb gun.

He had really big arms. I then that were like 420mm.

Speaking of carrying a heavy load, how many rounds of 9x70mm do you think your average gunner could carry with your MG?

Probably 200-400, but 400 would be the most.

Then carry a 19lb gun.

He had really big arms. I then that were like 420mm.

Never fails to make me laugh.

[Aqizithiuda]

Speaking of carrying a heavy load, how many rounds of 9x70mm do you think your average gunner could carry with your MG?

Probably 200-400, but 400 would be the most.

Never fails to make me laugh.

About what I was thinking, then.

Thanks!

[Lonara]

The Lonaran High Army uses the HLA-3 rifle platform.

7.62x39mm
Fully Automatic/Semi Automatic
Twenty Round Magazine
620 rounds p/minute
Optimum Range: 500 Yards

No caseless ammo, no Jesus Christ powers, it's just a well put together gun that can be easily maintained while keeping the accuracy and some of the range of her competitors.
I'm sick of all of these god damned fancy guns...

[Spreewerke]

The Lonaran High Army uses the HLA-3 rifle platform.

7.62x39mm
Fully Automatic/Semi Automatic
Twenty Round Magazine
620 rounds p/minute
Optimum Range: 500 Yards

No caseless ammo, no Jesus Christ powers, it's just a well put together gun that can be easily maintained while keeping the accuracy and some of the range of her competitors.
I'm sick of all of these god damned fancy guns...

Good thing it's easy to maintain, because you can expect jams every magazine.

[Lonara]

The Lonaran High Army uses the HLA-3 rifle platform.

7.62x39mm
Fully Automatic/Semi Automatic
Twenty Round Magazine
620 rounds p/minute
Optimum Range: 500 Yards

No caseless ammo, no Jesus Christ powers, it's just a well put together gun that can be easily maintained while keeping the accuracy and some of the range of her competitors.
I'm sick of all of these god damned fancy guns...

Good thing it's easy to maintain, because you can expect jams every magazine.

When coupled with a standard issue Lonaran bayonet, this weapon also makes an excellent spear.

[3 State Alliance]

The Tiger .333 family, from the top:
Standard
Marksman
"Tiger Cub" select-fire carbine

Based heavily on the Dragunov SVD and firing a modification of the Lapua .338 round, this rifle can fire a round 1.6 kilometers (indirect) with an effective range of 850 meters in average conditions. The Tiger is semi-automatic but the carbine edition is capable of fully-automatic fire. With either a 16 or 23 round clip this rifle and its variants are able to serve many roles.
Weighing 25lbs loaded and constructed from machined steel the Tiger is Virtually indestructible, this added to the significant range and power of the weapon has helped reduce causalities among the unarmored Troopers.
In recent years a new version has been released, in 330 that includes wood hardware and a rifle grenade launcher but the classic Tiger is still being issued by the thousand.

[Puzikas]

Good thing it's easy to maintain, because you can expect jams every magazine.

When coupled with a standard issue Lonaran bayonet, this weapon also makes an excellent spear.

Range of a spear: 30 meters
Range of a standard infantry rifle: 300m+

Re-work the rifle. Are you going for a design similar to that of the Kalashnikov?

[Lonara]

The Tiger .333 family, from the top:
Standard
Marksman
"Tiger Cub" select-fire carbine

Based heavily on the Dragunov SVD and firing a modification of the Lapua .338 round, this rifle can fire a round 1.6 kilometers (indirect) with an effective range of 850 meters in average conditions. The Tiger is semi-automatic but the carbine edition is capable of fully-automatic fire. With either a 16 or 23 round clip this rifle and its variants are able to serve many roles.
Weighing 25lbs loaded and constructed from machined steel the Tiger is Virtually indestructible, this added to the significant range and power of the weapon has helped reduce causalities among the unarmored Troopers.
In recent years a new version has been released, in 330 that includes wood hardware and a rifle grenade launcher but the classic Tiger is still being issued by the thousand.

....Twenty five pounds?