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Estainia
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Postby Estainia » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:37 pm

Massena wrote:
Estainia wrote:You mean like...Peasants...With weapons? Independent of the military?

Oh goodness no, absolutely not.


This is what happens when you live in a nation where the people are peasants, as opposed to Citizens.


We allowed the peasants weapons once.

It cost eighteen million people their lives over a course of three very bloody years; an extenuated Cold War and Civil War that lasted over a hundred years.

So no, the bloody peasants will not be armed again for a second round, they will remember their place below their rightful rulers.
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Massena
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Postby Massena » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:41 pm

Estainia wrote:We allowed the peasants weapons once.

It cost eighteen million people their lives over a course of three very bloody years; an extenuated Cold War and Civil War that lasted over a hundred years.

So no, the bloody peasants will not be armed again for a second round, they will remember their place below their rightful rulers.


That situation illustrates something wrong with the society, as opposed to the concept of Militia. May they one day rise up successfully, and put their "rulers" in the right place.

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NeThrel
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Postby NeThrel » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:12 am

What most people would consider "Militia" is refered to in the Ascendant Unity as the Auxilliary Guard Force. In normal times those who have mustered out of the Army enter the Auxilliary Guards to continue training and act as a reserve force if needed for war, civil emergency, natural disaster, etc.

There is also a Leyla-MehrnAz Militia Force. This is a adjunct to the Municipal Police, and deals generally with any attempts to plunder or deface archaeological sites. Their equipment is surprisingly good for a unit of this type and purpose.

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Great Manchukuo
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Postby Great Manchukuo » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:28 am

Estainia wrote:You mean like...Peasants...With weapons? Independent of the military?

Oh goodness no, absolutely not.


^ These ones have it right.

Regardless of any central edict however there are peasants who own arms and so long as they make no fuss about the fact they own arms and use them only for hunting purposes; we frankly don't give a damn. The idea of a structured militia however is a no-go, less to do with the fact we distrust the peasants (as we do not) and more the fact that that particular role is already filled by the Imperial Manchu Army Reserve Force. Though we suppose if it were necessary we could call up levies.
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The Soviet Witch Republics
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Postby The Soviet Witch Republics » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:30 am

Militia is banned in our mighty country. We do not support anyone who is a civilian with a gun during this ongoing unsigned civil war.
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Postby Xekliv » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:03 am

Estainia wrote:You mean like...Peasants...With weapons? Independent of the military?

Oh goodness no, absolutely not.


"Peasants?"

What is this, medieval times?
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Massena
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Postby Massena » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:08 am

Xekliv wrote:"Peasants?"

What is this, medieval times?


Evidently the concept of a society in which a man is free to live out from beneath the shadow of his self-styled "betters" has yet to reach the Russo-Spanish Empire. May it come to them in time, by peaceful means if God wills, and by the sword if He does not.

The prevention of such a horrid and backwards society is one of the primary reasons why Massena does have a Militia in place.
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Postby Novus Niciae » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:13 am

Every citizen joins the militia after completing their national service.
All veterans are allowed to keep their personal armor and weapons after they are honorably discharged from the armed forces and this is their initial equipment in the militia.
The militia is also equipped with slightly outdated second line variable fighters , variable tanks and heavy weapons which were used by the regular armed forces before they got upgraded.

Our defense plan is for there to be a rifleman behind every tree and street corner to delay an invader or raider until the regular armed forces arrive.
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Postby Fatatatutti » Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:09 am

Massena wrote:I would imagine that in the event of mobilization preparatory to war, a good part of the process would include issuance of spare parts, extra ammunition, and even whole new rifles by the state using military stocks to Militia forces. There would also be competency tests to see which personnel had undertaken the legally mandatory process of marksmanship and routine test firing, and a major program of assigning extra training to those Militia personnel and units found to be delinquent in these responsibilities.

We believe that it would be easier, in the event of war, to train new recruits from zero instead of trying to unteach the bad habits that a universal militia would learn on its own.

-- Sgt. Lawrence "Elmo" Morrison, aide-de-camp to the Brigade Commander, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade

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Dhakhistan
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Postby Dhakhistan » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:41 am

As I mentioned in another thread, Dhakh militias are quite common and very well armed. They usually adhere to the Greater Dhakhia ideology. Our militia culture dates back to our fight for independence and they are generally well armed and extremely nationalistic. They tend to form in more rural areas and at times have posed a threat to the stability of the state. Due to their expansionist rhetoric the government has been trying to crack down on them lately in fear of them attacking a neighbouring state. The current government estimates there are some 500 militias in Dhakhistan with the largest ones having some 3 to 4 thousand members.

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Massena
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Postby Massena » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:33 pm

Fatatatutti wrote:We believe that it would be easier, in the event of war, to train new recruits from zero instead of trying to unteach the bad habits that a universal militia would learn on its own.

-- Sgt. Lawrence "Elmo" Morrison, aide-de-camp to the Brigade Commander, 99th Air Cavalry Brigade


In theory, yes, we agree. If you require every person to be in some Universal Militia, then you're going to have some issues. This is why we say it is much better, in the main, if you let it be a Ready Militia in all but the most intense circumstances.

It really depends on what the Militia Force is meant to do. Ours is meant for defensive purposes and is operated by the people, not the government. In military deployments we tend to like to bring in fresh volunteers directly to the ranks of the Armed Forces.

- Secretary of War Thomas Conway.
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Nueva San Cristobel
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Postby Nueva San Cristobel » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:42 pm

Xekliv wrote:
Estainia wrote:You mean like...Peasants...With weapons? Independent of the military?

Oh goodness no, absolutely not.


"Peasants?"

What is this, medieval times?


The Russo-Spanish Empire is heavily entrenched in the medieval ages socially; yes.

The idea of a militia in San Cristobel is a non-existent one; private gun ownership is legal provided you can jump through hoops and get through the red tape to make sure you're not a sociopath but militias are a no. We have enough problems with the private armies of Cartels than to arm up citizens as well.
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Qanchia
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Postby Qanchia » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:49 pm

Qanchia has no standing military. Various militias formed by civilians are active in various provinces of the country.

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Nueva San Cristobel
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Postby Nueva San Cristobel » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:50 pm

Qanchia wrote:Qanchia has no standing military. Various militias formed by civilians are active in various provinces of the country.


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Reichsland
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Postby Reichsland » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:54 pm

In Reichsland, we have a government sponsored national militia, which is in turn commanded by the governors of each state. However these militias ultimately answer to the federal government. Secondly, groups of individual citizens may form a "local militia". These local militias must then file for a charter permit. If awarded, the local militia members recieve free training and discounts on weapons and ammo. However, the members must also prove their physical and mental abilities on a bi-monthly basis. If any member fails these tests, they are removed from the local militia. They may then reapply for membership after one year has passed since their washout.
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Postby Qanchia » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:55 pm

Nueva San Cristobel wrote:
Qanchia wrote:Qanchia has no standing military. Various militias formed by civilians are active in various provinces of the country.


The GWO is coming for you next. <_>

Oh no! Better hire some guerilla mercernaries.
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Miserabler
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Ex-Nation

Postby Miserabler » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:03 pm

Our militia known locally as les défenseurs de la liberté are found in every town, village and city. They are trained how to fire a gun, maintain it and basic unarmed and melee combat and they are expected to pass that knowledge down to the new recruits of the militia. The guns they use date back to ww2.

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Weight: 3.5 kg (without magazine)
4.17 kg (with 32 round magazine)
Length: 460 mm / 720 mm
Barrel length 230 mm
Cartridge 9x19mm Parabellum
Action: Blowback
Rate of fire: 600 rpm
Feed system: 20, 32, 35 rounds

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Weight 730 g (A) (unloaded)
Length 188 mm
Cartridge 7.65mm Longue
Action Recoil via Browning-type tilting barrel
Muzzle velocity 340 m/s (1120 fps)
Feed system 8 round, single stack magazine

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Weight: 3.71 kg (8.2 lb.) unloaded
Length 1,021 mm (40.2 in.)
Barrel length 575 mm (22.6 in.)
Cartridge 7.5×54mm French
Action: Bolt action
Muzzle velocity 2700 ft/s (823 m/s)
Effective range est. 350-400 yards w/open sights
Feed system: 5 round internal box magazine, clip fed

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Zanarus
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Postby Zanarus » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:09 pm

All our teenage boys are trained to be militia from a young age and most men are in the a regional militia. Women can join if they want. Militia mostly use AK-74's and 47's

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Postby Suidwes-Afrika » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:22 pm

There are numerous paramilitary groups, both independent and official, some with more state approval than others. Some extremist political organisations retain their own militias, while the national security apparatus also includes militia-type units which can be called upon to assist the military in quelling internal unrest.

Every white male in Suidwes-Afrika between 17 and 60 may be called up for at least eighty days' military service a year. This results in a large pool of trained manpower within the civilian populace which can be utilised during wartime. For local defence, army reservists, police reservists, and Area Force Units (AFUs; or Afrikaans: commandos) function as de-facto home militias. As the Suidwes-Afrikan Police are theoretically part of the armed forces in the sense that some units are trained as infantrymen and SWAPOL's chief commissioners answer to the military's High Command, police reservists are often issued their own kit - including automatic weapons and patrol kit - to maintain. In the event of insurgency or insurrection, they, rather than the regulars (who are often more equipped for civilian duties), will likely see combat. Area Force Units are essentially a "home guard", consisting of rural militia regiments - in some cases the men too old or too young for effective use in normal combat roles - who represent the military in the event of insurgency or foreign invasion. As many army reservists are permitted to keep their arms at home, they may be likewise called up to specifically defend their locale.
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Namor
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Postby Namor » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:45 pm

The Party Guard of Namor serves as the country's de facto national militia. It is only dispatched to crush insurgencies that happen within the country. For example, if Namor is to be invaded, then the Party Guard is sent to the most remote areas, supplied with weapons and to conduct guerilla warfare.
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Dagnia
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Postby Dagnia » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:36 pm

The government does not sponsor any militia organizations, however there are several more or less formal groups of people who act as a militia. Depending on their level of organization, they may look and act like a formal military or they may just be a group of guys with guns who act like vigilantes. Either way, they are subject to the same laws as any other citizen of Dagnia.
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Postby Saaro » Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:54 pm

There are no militias, just the Imperial and Royal Auzkhian Army that defends the colony.
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Postby Herador » Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:07 pm

Militia's became illegal in 1988 when a local militia "accidently" mistook a group of illegal border crossers as an invasion force. Under the laws of the time the militia was well within it's rights to waste the group (which included children), in response the Government ceased to recognize local militias and that any act they carried out under the title of "militia" would be illegal, and all of their former responsibilities would be moved to local law enforcement.
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YellowApple
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Postby YellowApple » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:26 pm

YellowApple, Inc. does not formally maintain a militia. It does, however, maintain a quasi-compulsory military force, which results in a quasi-militia arrangement. Members of this force (classified as 'Inactive Personnel') receive a significant tax deduction as a result of membership (YellowApplans are not enrolled by default, nor are they required to enroll), as well as basic tactical training, firearms certification training (if they did not receive it during Intermediate Education), an AppleFire AR01 Assault Rifle, a ¥$512 credit to purchase a sidearm, and a supply of both primary and secondary firearm ammunition. The caveat, however, is that personnel in Inactive status may be cycled into 'Standby' status (awaiting assignment) as needed by the military branch each Inactive is assigned to (Aerospace Marine Corps, Aerospace Defense Corps, or Domestic Security Corps).

In addition to the above, the Domestic Security Corps does maintain local volunteer-based law enforcement groups, armed with non-lethal weapons and authorized to temporarily detain criminals until a DSC Enforcer can arrive on the scene. Likewise, YellowApple, Inc.'s relatively relaxed policies on both self defense and the defense of others tend to make unofficial militias form rather easily, as individual YellowApplans will - on occasion - rally to protect one or more other YellowApplans from a confirmed threat (or even an unconfirmed, though this will usually involve the citizens guarding the potential victim to ensure that a threat doesn't emerge).

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Postby Vallermoore » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:36 pm

We don't have one, but could form one if we were invaded.

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