Your Nations Warships, MKII

[Erics republic]

Would the queen Mary class ship be a good ship for logistics

[The Akasha Colony]

Would the queen Mary class ship be a good ship for logistics

What Queen Mary-class? Certainly not the WWI-era battlecruiser?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Would the queen Mary class ship be a good ship for logistics

What Queen Mary-class? Certainly not the WWI-era battlecruiser?

Uh, why are you using a full cruise liner to... do this?

[The Akasha Colony]

What Queen Mary-class? Certainly not the WWI-era battlecruiser?

Uh, why are you using a full cruise liner to... do this?

I was hoping that he wasn't referring to the ocean liner, but it seems that was rather optimistic.

[Triplebaconation]

Would the queen Mary class ship be a good ship for logistics

Yes.

[Pharthan]

Would the queen Mary class ship be a good ship for logistics

Yes.

Would you see any problem with using a cruiser-hull to make a higher-speed logistics ship? (Obviously it will carry less due to the decreased beam, but I'm going to faster replenishment rather than bulk.) Everything hull-up would have to be replaced, and it'd probably be fitted to only do UNREPs on one side, instead of dual.

Something in the back of my mind just says, "No, stick with the big ugly guys and just do bulk-replenishments from overseas-bases."

Obviously, it needs to be an octomaran. Perhaps a dodecamaran. Can't decide.

[Lubyak]

Uh, why are you using a full cruise liner to... do this?

I was hoping that he wasn't referring to the ocean liner, but it seems that was rather optimistic.

Using ocean liners as troop transports isn't necessarily a horrific idea...I mean it's been done in both World Wars, so if you've got a Queen Mary like ocean liner sitting around and you're in a middle of a war, might as well use it for something.

[Erics republic]

I was hoping that he wasn't referring to the ocean liner, but it seems that was rather optimistic.

Using ocean liners as troop transports isn't necessarily a horrific idea...I mean it's been done in both World Wars, so if you've got a Queen Mary like ocean liner sitting around and you're in a middle of a war, might as well use it for something.

And keep in mind that the queen Mary was not intercepted once by German u boats in all her voyages

[Erics republic]

Should I employ Anzac class destroyers or aegis class destroyers in my fleet, I'll accept alternatives as well

[Lubyak]

Using ocean liners as troop transports isn't necessarily a horrific idea...I mean it's been done in both World Wars, so if you've got a Queen Mary like ocean liner sitting around and you're in a middle of a war, might as well use it for something.

And keep in mind that the queen Mary was not intercepted once by German u boats in all her voyages

That was because she was too fast for WW2 U-Boats to catch, something that wouldn't be a problem for modern nuclear attack subs.

[The Akasha Colony]

Using ocean liners as troop transports isn't necessarily a horrific idea...I mean it's been done in both World Wars, so if you've got a Queen Mary like ocean liner sitting around and you're in a middle of a war, might as well use it for something.

When I hear 'logistics' I normally assume it's for UNREP, not simply moving cargo from one place to another, in which case almost any ship would do. Queen Mary is of course fine as a troop transport, but if cherry picking is involved, a fleet of United Stateses would be my choice for bonus trololo.

Should I employ Anzac class destroyers or aegis class destroyers in my fleet, I'll accept alternatives as well

Aegis is a system, not a ship class. Many different ship classes employ the system.

And keep in mind that the queen Mary was not intercepted once by German u boats in all her voyages

The difference is that modern ocean liners haven't gotten any faster, while modern nuclear submarines have become significantly faster than even the fastest WWII submarines.

[Grays Harbor]

Would a San Antonio class ship be a good maritime patrol ship?

No. That is not what they were designed for. They are amphib landing ships. That is what they are good at. They are not designed as patrol vessels.

[Purpelia]

And keep in mind that the queen Mary was not intercepted once by German u boats in all her voyages

That was because she was too fast for WW2 U-Boats to catch, something that wouldn't be a problem for modern nuclear attack subs.

Or missile armed bears for that matter.

[Triplebaconation]

Would a San Antonio class ship be a good maritime patrol ship?

No. That is not what they were designed for. They are amphib landing ships. That is what they are good at. They are not designed as patrol vessels.

What does it matter what they were designed for? It's how they're used that counts.

[Lubyak]

No. That is not what they were designed for. They are amphib landing ships. That is what they are good at. They are not designed as patrol vessels.

What does it matter what they were designed for? It's how they're used that counts.

Fine. You could use a San Antonio for a patrol vessel, in the same sense that you could use a Merkava as a troop transport.

However, it is a bad idea because that is not what the thing was designed to do, and as such it will be very inefficient at doing this task you've given to it, as it was never designed to do it in the first place.

[Triplebaconation]

And yet the San Antonio spent its first deployment as the flagship of an anti-piracy squadron conducting traditional maritime patrol operations.

I'm sure all the extra helicopters and specialized personnel it carried didn't help efficiency at all.

[Lubyak]

And yet the San Antonio spent its first deployment as the flagship of an anti-piracy squadron conducting traditional maritime patrol operations.

I'm sure all the extra helicopters and specialized personnel it carried didn't help efficiency at all.

I'm also sure that if the US Navy had needed it to do its actual job, they would have used it for what its meant to do, rather than as a maritime patrol vessel. In reality this is fine as they're not needed for assaulting beaches elsewhere, but in NS, it would be better to develop a specialised vessel for the role, rather than send a ship equipped for amphibious assault to do a job for a patrol ship.

[Triplebaconation]

What would this hypothetical specialized "maritime patrol vessel" look like? That's like saying "specialized navy vessel."

[Lubyak]

What would this hypothetical specialized "maritime patrol vessel" look like?

Hard to say as there are going to be a great many factors affecting it, primarily its role. If we're talking 'anti-piracy patrol' or 'anti-submarine' or 'coast guard' type patrol vessel? All these factors would combine to determine what the ship would need to have and what could be cut.

What it would not be like is a San Antonio class landing dock. I really do fail to see a maritime patrol situation during which you'd need to put 800 soldiers ashore. The San Antonio is designed to do just that. It can be an anti-pirate patrol vessel, but really that is not the best use of a ship as expensive and well equipped as the San Antonio.

[Triplebaconation]

Really? For the most stereotypical :NS: patrol mission, something like an amphibious warfare ship is almost required.

[The Corparation]

Really? For the most stereotypical :NS: patrol mission, something like an amphibious warfare ship is almost required.

No, stereotypical NS-patrol ship is a kilometer long super dreadnaught Arsenal Ship.

[Connori Pilgrims]

Really? For the most stereotypical :NS: patrol mission, something like an amphibious warfare ship is almost required.

No, stereotypical NS-patrol ship is a kilometer long super dreadnaught Arsenal Ship.

To be fair, given the stereotypical scenario and RP starting point I've often seen (either first response to crisis, seizing some resource-rich island or gunboat diplomacy), capital ships in NS (be they carrier or some kind of arsenal battleship) actually see far more use.

Very rare do specialized true patrol vessels ever play an important part in such proceedings, and are usually kept in the background as support players.

[Pharthan]

And yet the San Antonio spent its first deployment as the flagship of an anti-piracy squadron conducting traditional maritime patrol operations.

I'm sure all the extra helicopters and specialized personnel it carried didn't help efficiency at all.

"Flagship," meaning that it's mostly doing coordination, rather than actually getting out there. A flagship doesn't have to be good at much of anything except communications and detection. While they may have still been effective, that doesn't mean it's the best option. But they weren't exactly going against enemy fleets. A cardboard box isn't usually what you'd choose to kill something, but when your enemy is a cockroach, it'll do.

[Triplebaconation]

what does "getting out there" mean

[Connori Pilgrims]

what does "getting out there" mean

Presumably he means actually engaging pirates, boarding and/or blowing pirates up.