Your Nations Warships, MKII

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

20 minutes of interrupted flight ops later...

Time to implement a new thing to my carrier fleets.

PS: It's been a feature since at least the Forrestal fire in 1967.

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PS: It's been a feature since at least the Forrestal fire in 1967.

I do not know do NS carriers have it listed. I know my classes have such systems in place.

Afaik all modern vessels bigger than corvettes and newer than the Falklands War has a wash-down system. Something about fires like those on HM Ships Ardent and Antelope becoming unmanageable with hoses.

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http://members.home.nl/7seas/radcalc.htm

Hmm, using 164ft as the height of the Kirov's radar, and 60ft as the height of the Buccaneers...

I am over the radar horizon at 46.8km from the target. Does this mean that I'm unable to be fired upon before then?

You won't be detected until that point, which is pretty much splendid. Depending on your latest datum of the Kirov and your missiles you can pretty much launch at 50-60 km's, turn tail and leave them none the wiser until missiles start popping up 20-30 km's off at 5 meters mean sea level.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The pinnacle of Freekish naval engineering, the 'Dreadfire' class Super dreadnought.

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I have a question, what supports the hundreds of missile and gun wing turrets? Where are their magazines?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Frigate.
No obvious "it's gonna sink" errors, right? I've been worried about the two shafts getting 11.5 thousand horsepowers channelled through them, especially since MEKO 200's already does 32 knots with half that power.

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Worth noting here that Tirpitz was essentially an irreparable floating artillery battery once the first Tallboy hit home and killed the engine permanently. That was September 1944, two months of repairs later two more direct hits from Tallboys and four proximity hits made the entire ship turn turtle.

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Would it be OP to tack on another triple turret of the same caliber in 1936? I plan to have the battleship at least a decade in the making IC.

http://shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Ne ... ip%20M.png

So your BB spent seventeen years on drawing boards and yards? I don't think that's how things work. And no. You can't convert a finished Iowa to a Montana. Not without losing something vital like hull integrity.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So your BB spent seventeen years on drawing boards and yards? I don't think that's how things work. And no. You can't convert a finished Iowa to a Montana. Not without losing something vital like hull integrity.

Japanese 18 inch guns where inferior to American 16 inch guns :c

More referring to the fact that he's going to entirely fuck up weight distribution on the keel if he adds a fifth turret after commission.

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More referring to the fact that he's going to entirely fuck up weight distribution on the keel if he adds a fifth turret after commission.

Butbutbut

The Orion battleship idea has been on the boards for more then 30 years

Surely that means that the Idea is completely viable and accomplishable.

Don't forget we're dealing with a country that has the World's best engineers.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

So...I made my first ship.

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Don't ask me what it is. Your guess is as good as mine. I just opened Paint.NET and went crazy. Considering I just wanted to make something that resembled a ship, I'm proud of it.

I don't plan on this being an actual warship, but...maybe with some modifications, I could use it for military whaling (we use giant, mutated whales as shore defense. Don't ask).

Your freeboard is gigantic while your draught is pretty much nonexistent. As is it will without exception turn turtle, unless you are as wide as the ship is long.
Arleigh Burke-class as comparison.

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What is the Oale on about guys?

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What is the Oale on about guys?

Yukikaze looks like a beaver.

Uh. Mind explaining to me how Kantai Collection is relevant to... a discussion on surface vessel physics?

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Uh. Mind explaining to me how Kantai Collection is relevant to... a discussion on surface vessel physics?

I was talking about your fail link.
It's like I'm pulling teeth here.

I'm seeing my picture perfectly. <.< >.>

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I'm seeing my picture perfectly. <.< >.>

]The owner of this website (fas.org) does not allow hotlinking to that resource (/man/dod-101/sys/ship/ddg82-3.gif).

Owell. Have a burning love.
EDIT: Does the link work better now for my dear Oale-san?

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Your freeboard is gigantic while your draught is pretty much nonexistent. As is it will without exception turn turtle, unless you are as wide as the ship is long.

Arleigh Burke-class as comparison.

Yeah, both of those I noticed immediately. Fixing them now.

Considering those seemed to be the only immediate flaws, I guess I could have done a lot worse for my first lineart.

Actually there isn't much to say about it apart from the massive stability issue, since it's an bare hull.

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Haven't thought of that. Probably just a tad smaller than the Zumwalt.

Assuming this ship is 170 metres or below
It could still carry those things that I mention, Stinger missiles aren't that heavy and so are torpedoes

Stingers? You are surely not telling him to put the primary air defence of a ship this size and capable of a fantastic air defence system like AEGIS on a few 5 km range MANPADS right?

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And her AA armament was pretty good, as you say, but they didn't have enough too protect from around 300-400 us planes.

It was actually mediocre to inferior compared to other guns in the same period. The training and elevation speeds were slow even in powered mounts, the magazine held 15 rounds that were all gone in 4 seconds and had to be handloaded after it had been expended, compared to the Bofors in American service which you could load as it fired, the magazine issue was so bad it actually halved the cyclic rate of fire from 200-260 to 110 effective. Hitting power and range like any other 20-25 mm mount during the war left much to be asked. Overall, it compared well to the 20 mm Oerlikon but was terribly inferior to the Bofors.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Speaking of AA armament on ww2 ships, would a ship around the size of a cruiser armed with a stupidly huge amount of anti aircraft weapons that fallows around large capital ships like battleships and provides aa support, be a good idea?

http://www.shipbucket.com/Never%20Built%20Designs/Japan/CAAA%20Kumano%201943.png

12.7 cm Type 89? 10 cm Type 5 or get out.

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It was actually mediocre to inferior compared to other guns in the same period. The training and elevation speeds were slow even in powered mounts, the magazine held 15 rounds that were all gone in 4 seconds and had to be handloaded after it had been expended, compared to the Bofors in American service which you could load as it fired, the magazine issue was so bad it actually halved the cyclic rate of fire from 200-260 to 110 effective. Hitting power and range like any other 20-25 mm mount during the war left much to be asked. Overall, it compared well to the 20 mm Oerlikon but was terribly inferior to the Bofors.

Yeah you are right,

The Yamato was a beautiful ship if you ask me.

Extra note, 20 mm Oerlikon had a 60 round spring driven spiral magazine, and fired 250 rpm effective at the least, 25 mil Type 96 get out. Well glad I swapped the Type 96 for the 40 mm Bofors at earliest possible.
For anyone intending to modernize battleships with new engines, do note that in Yamato's case the compartment was covered by 200 mm's of armour, making regular maintenance a hassle and replacements all but impossible without decommissioning the ship and ripping out the superstructure and the deck armour wholesale. I do not know if any other battleships has this problem but I do advise to leave the engines in. Oil fired steam turbines as most BB's had during WWII was plenty powerful enough.

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Pretty much the only way is IR photography and that requires
a) the handwriting on the paper to be pretty large (at least a centimetre and a half in diameter)
b) the paper to not be turned to ash

Both of those criteria are not met by the hypothetical and completely implausible "war winning plans".

I will do it anyway.

You forget any sane ship will kill your helicopter boarding force five times over once you enter the eight km boundary. If they have as much as a single CIWS mount working your helicopters will face radar directed danmaku and die in seconds.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

That old SPS-49 is vomit-inducing. Please change for the new one. Also the RAN-10S is entirely solid, what you have is an old depiction of SPS-49 which is imho aesthetically offensive. <.< >.>

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiebel_Camcopter_S-100

Austrians...

Hai desuwa?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The fack i just seen O-O

The Most Powerful Ship On the planet in terms of raw cannon fire power.

The worst in terms of missile defence

One of the worst in terms of actually floating too lal.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

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That gun looks really long, caliber and length?

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https://i.imgur.com/ttBjET1.png

DDGN-001 Bismark

Because reasons.

The missile between VL-ASROC and Standard 2 is Standard-P, which is and indigenous Standard variant; RIM-174 without the booster and with an additional optical seeker.

The rocket booster is there to actually get the missile off the deck of the ship, unless you have some insanely powerful engine that can get the thing up to a safe altitude in two seconds.