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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:06 pm

Stahn wrote:Carriers can't hide from satelites. I am not saying what you say I am saying.

Given that I know all your orbits for your radar ocean reconnaissance satellites, hiding from them is easy peasy. Also, if the Midway battlegroup could conduct a successful search and rescue operation 370 km's from a Soviet airbase in the Kurils, I can hide and touch your static airbases anywhere.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:41 pm


Of all the semi-decent Taigei pics you had to pick this one? D:

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:44 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Oaledonia wrote:wrong


why is firefox into ship.

Because Nippon. *insert exasperated sigh here*

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:46 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Of all the semi-decent Taigei pics you had to pick this one? D:

:3

That's the SPY-4 "Fox finder" radar, which sniffs out cupcakes at 400+ miles.

I couldn't tell (like with 99.9999999% of your pic-posts that gets thrown out without explanation or context), moshiwake arimasen deshita.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:50 pm


I see you stretched an Asheville.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:17 pm

Kassaran wrote:Railguns, while definitely not CIWS and most definitely not guided missiles, do have an in-flight travel time to a target about 100km away of less than five seconds.

100,000 meters divided by 5 seconds = 20 km/s. Good going you just launched your shell beyond the gravitational pull of the Earth.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:1.Shirada it is a very abondunt element mostly utilized for power, It has a low melting point , and is used too melt through armor once it is fired out of a canon, it is also able too be a substitute for several things as it can carry an eletric charge very well, and can act as a replacement for batterys.

This sounds brilliant on paper and would make a very spectacular Hollywood explosion. Problem is it won't sink any ship unless it's an Asheville gunboat. Here is why.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:00 pm

I thought an image would describe what unholy hell you have unleashed better than Oaledonia. Red is primary and secondary batteries, green close-in weapon systems, yellow machinery and propulsion. Where lines cross means your things are occupying the space of eachother.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:11 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I thought an image would describe what unholy hell you have unleashed better than Oaledonia. Red is primary and secondary batteries, green close-in weapon systems, yellow machinery and propulsion. Where lines cross means your things are occupying the space of eachother.

Wow...just wow.....what have I unleashed upon this world.
But once you put my PMT, and Made up elements into consideration most of those areas would be dramatically smaller.

Any help too fix it, without getting rid of any of the weaponry.

Nope. Unless you manage to somehow make an 10 inch shell and turret drastically smaller while in the magazines it will stay the same. As is your arm launchers in the middle of the ship have no magazines and have two ready rounds each. By the way the 8 anchors up front and their chains run through the fore five inch barbette, or are welded directly to the hull.
Zerinfriom wrote:
San-Silvacian wrote:best warship.

Thank you.

That was sarcasm.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:18 pm

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San-Silvacian wrote:im super serious guys its the coolest warship i've never seen

so much cooler than the supposed 'real' warships others make.

Thank you, but I myself know for a fact it can never exist right now.

But now you are trying too hard to be sarcastic.

It's rather it's physically impossible to mount a ten inch and six inch gun plus turbines in each other, which is what you've done. In addition your thousand man crew all sleeps directly behind the fore VLS and foremost ten inch gun.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:23 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:It's rather it's physically impossible to mount a ten inch and six inch gun plus turbines in each other, which is what you've done. In addition your thousand man crew all sleeps directly behind the fore VLS and foremost ten inch gun.

I'm going to fix that in the next "Over haul" then I will post what I have done too fix it.

Here's the thing in addition: Your five inch guns have greater reach than your hull mounted six inch guns, and they fire faster. With specialist ammunition, five inch shells can be more accurate and longer ranged than your ten inch guns.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:29 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Here's the thing in addition: Your five inch guns have greater reach than your hull mounted six inch guns, and they fire faster. With specialist ammunition, five inch shells can be more accurate and longer ranged than your ten inch guns.

The Hull mounted guns are suppose too be three inch cannons, I just accidentally had them as 5 or 6 inch.

Even less range then, and they can't aim up at all to engage aircraft. In other news, Otobreda Melara VULCANO for an assorted number of 5 inch guns does 120 km's, GPS guided.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:34 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:The Hull mounted guns are 5 inch cannons, my mistake. Wow I am a little confused today.

And they still can't engage planes. At that elevation range will also be limited to between 15-20 km's instead of 30 where they can rotate freely. You really really really want things that can both engage planes and surface targets in whatever future 21st century year you are in.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:38 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:By the 22nd century you might as well be using lazors and rockkkets.

Probably also some wonky 200 km version of DART.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:00 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:In my nations canon the year is 2026 I am the global super power, and a mysterious nation. Most other nations still utilize the classic Dreadnought battle plan where you just line up and take shots at each other. While my nation is like a sci fi book too them.

But for rps I want this ship too make seance, and actually work. So I want help making it work, but first let me explain some things.
1.No weapons are coming off they are staying, and we will work around that and do things that allow them too stay.
2.The Hull mounted cannons will have a major use even if we have too make them longer, a bigger caliber etc..
3.This ship is the pride of the fleet, and I want it too represent my nation is about.
4.I want too be reasonable, and everyone else too be reasonable with me while we work this ship out, and make it a massive force too be reckoned with.

So shall we begin :), or are we going too become arguing idiots again.

1: Well something has to come off or you have to increase the size of the thing, probably above 400-600 meters to fit it all and still have place for a crew, magazines, radars, directors etc. Things above 600 meters bend easily.
2: If a gun is limited to 0 degrees elevation what range will it have? Line of sight. Line of sight at your height is 10 km's.
3: Sure, and my Fuso-puppets' half-working Yamato will still beat it in a straight gun to gun fight (probably due to the fact that I'll begin shelling you at 60 km's with the aid of my onboard helicopter and modern shells, and you will have to handle that beating from 46 cm shells until your own guns enter director range, aka less than 30 km's, 30 km's at 32 knots takes 30 minutes, 30 minutes is enough for Yamato with it's WWII loading speeds of 35-45 seconds between broadsides to land you 459 1.5 ton shells).
4: This is not reasonable in any shape or form.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:12 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:Well then eff this thread.

Your response to a fleet flagship converted from a 73 year old battleship outshooting your gunception by 51 broadsides from 9 46 cm guns is fuck off? You aren't even trying mate.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:41 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Your response to a fleet flagship converted from a 73 year old battleship outshooting your gunception by 51 broadsides from 9 46 cm guns is fuck off? You aren't even trying mate.

Where did I say they were converted.
Where did I say this was converted from a 73 year old battleship.
Where did I say that the guns on the Hull could not move up, and down.
Where did I say any of what you just said. Tell Me.
I want too make a great ship, and I gave a few parameters for it, and the absolute first thing I was told was "hey I'm not going too listen" that was practically what you posted "mate".

Ok, let's take this slow and steady.

I have a puppet, it's called Fuso-, the Imperial Fuso Navy, that is the navy of that nation, modernized Yamato three times over the Cold War and keeps the 73 year old ship in pretty much the same role HMS Victory is holding right now, as a ceremonial fleet flagship, with the marked difference that Yamato can sail and can fend for itself in 2014. No where did I imply that my Yamato modernization was your ship.
The thing is, Yamato's 46 cm/45 Type 94 guns, nine thereof, could deliver one round per gun per 35-45 seconds in WWII. Your ship lacks the over-the-horizon (helicopter) director capability that my Yamato has with it's helicopters. Therefore you are forced to close within 30 km's where your tallest radars can actually detect and track me. Meanwhile I have been detecting, tracking and directing 9 46 cm shells on top of your ship every half minute ever since you came within 60 km range, and I will do that for 30 minutes as your ship attempts to close with the threat at a reasonably fast 32 knot speed. 30 minutes / 35 seconds = about 51. This means you will suffer 51 broadsides from the biggest naval guns WWII put into service. How will your ship deal with that half an hour bombardment assuming I don't hit any of your horribly exposed 10 inch magazines with 459 shells?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:18 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:This ship can detect you from over 1000 Kilometers Away thanks too the Haydese Radar.

Let's plug 1000 km vs a target 50 meters high in shall we? Height h1 becomes 55.4 km's. You know what else flies at 55.4 km's? Ballistic missiles and Space Ship One.
Anyway something more relevant.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Jul 01, 2014 3:24 pm

Crookfur wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Let's plug 1000 km vs a target 50 meters high in shall we? Height h1 becomes 55.4 km's. You know what else flies at 55.4 km's? Ballistic missiles and Space Ship One.

dude forget it he's obviously beyond mere banalities like physics.

Zerinfriom wrote:4.I want too be reasonable, and everyone else too be reasonable with me while we work this ship out, and make it a massive force too be reckoned with.
? :O

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:16 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:So just blast away jerk.

You don't wanna post that.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:21 pm

Korva wrote:
Zerinfriom wrote:I'm pretty sure that it won't because the I.D.N.V: Zerinfriom is doing just fine, and it is based on that design.

And I meant by ripping it apart by making fun of it.

You have already responded to questions regarding your ability to produce, fund, and operate these mega carriers with "because it does". On top of that you have insulted both the people offering you advice and the actual advice offered.

Why exactly did you come here to post?

To have us all fap at his glory.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:25 pm

Zerinfriom wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:To have us all fap at his glory.

No I came back so I could try too give this a second try(Or third) and I see that I'm not accepted. So I guess I will go (For the second time) because I cannot take the stress of having 5 people ask 3 questions each, while at the same time being subliminally made fun of.
So I'm abandoning this thread again.
And I AM NOT one of those people wanting for praising of attention, I want too be criticized, not ripped apart(figuratively)

You react to criticism with extreme anger and accuse us of ripping you apart, so what's the point of us criticising you?

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jul 28, 2014 12:34 pm

Padnak wrote:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:The key is to make ideas that are bad enough to be believable, but not so bad that they're ridiculous.


I wonder if I could use my 155,000 pound bombs are anti ship weapons...

You will probably lose 999 out of 1000 transports going against a competent triple layered air defence system, unless your foe is confined to Osas and MANPADS.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:05 pm

Roski wrote:
Allanea wrote:The point is, it is a mechanism that needs to work in a specific way.

Being hit with shrapnel will damage the nuke and ilkely prevent detonation.


Not really.

http://web.stanford.edu/class/e297c/war_peace/atomic/hfatman.html wrote:The outermost shell was the high explosive lens system. This made a layer some 47 cm thick weighing at least 2500 kg. This assembly consisted of 32 explosive lenses;...

The lens system had to be made to very precise tolerances. The composition and densities of the explosives had to be accurately controlled and extremely uniform. The pieces had to fit together with an accuracy of less than 1 mm to prevent irregularities in the shock wave which could alter the fission of the uranium...
So, you got 32 pieces, 2,500 kg's of explosives in a Fat Man type implosion bomb (the simpler of the two I might add), needing 1 mm CEP levels of accuracy in its machining, in addition that an initiator system weighing just 7 grams if you want things to go Nagasaki.
Now, what would happen if I should direct 100 30 mm AP rounds into this thing?
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:36 pm

Roski wrote:
The Soodean Imperium wrote:Neglecting the likelihood that the lightly radioactive fragments fall into the water a few kilometers short of the target, aren't most modern warships NBC-sealed anyway?


But the Nimitz is a large ship. You could very easily land highly radioactive materials on the deck.

20 minutes of interrupted flight ops later...

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