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Palakistan
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Postby Palakistan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 2:51 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:
Palakistan wrote:What would, in your opinion, make for a good fleet/flotilla/carrier strike group? I'm going to buy lots of new naval ships. Money is no objection. And is there a storefront here that sells aircraft carriers?

I have 6 carrier groups that I can sell you for ~$15 billion each, if you're interested. Each group contains:
  • 1 x Nimitz-class supercarrier:
    • 48 x F-35C
    • 24 x EA-18G EW aircraft
    • 6 x E-2 Hawkeye AEW aircraft
    • 12 x SH-60B ASW and utility helicopters
  • 3 x Arleigh Burke-class DDGs
  • 2 x Virginia-class SSNs

The actual value of all that is close to $24 billion going by Wikipedia, but I got them off GE&T awhile ago from someone who had no idea what they were actually worth, which is why they're so cheap.

Well....
I'll buy the carrier and the aircraft. I got the subs and destroyers. Could you do that?
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Postby Palakistan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:00 pm

Gallia- wrote:also lol 24 jammers

How many should there be.....
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Postby New Oyashima » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:01 pm

Palakistan wrote:
Gallia- wrote:also lol 24 jammers

How many should there be.....

100.

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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:03 pm

Where's the NATF D:

F-35C can only do so much
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Postby Palakistan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:20 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Palakistan wrote:How many should there be.....


like 4

Ok. I might be able to pawn the jammers off. Is a F-16 or F-15 carrier capable?
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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:25 pm

You could make the Model 1602s. They're, basically navalized F-16s. I would recommend the F-14 (if you could get them... idk how "realistic" you want to RP your arms acquisitions) over a navalized F-15 though.
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Mitheldalond
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Postby Mitheldalond » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:27 pm

Palakistan wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:I have 6 carrier groups that I can sell you for ~$15 billion each, if you're interested. Each group contains:
  • 1 x Nimitz-class supercarrier:
    • 48 x F-35C
    • 24 x EA-18G EW aircraft
    • 6 x E-2 Hawkeye AEW aircraft
    • 12 x SH-60B ASW and utility helicopters
  • 3 x Arleigh Burke-class DDGs
  • 2 x Virginia-class SSNs

The actual value of all that is close to $24 billion going by Wikipedia, but I got them off GE&T awhile ago from someone who had no idea what they were actually worth, which is why they're so cheap.

Well....
I'll buy the carrier and the aircraft. I got the subs and destroyers. Could you do that?

Sure. We'll say $7 billion for a carrier and air wing. How many do you want?

Gallia- wrote:also lol 24 jammers

For when you really just want to tell the enemy IADS to bugger off

Also, I included extras.

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Gallia-
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Postby Gallia- » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:29 pm

Estovnia wrote:You could make the Model 1602s. They're, basically navalized F-16s. I would recommend the F-14 (if you could get them... idk how "realistic" you want to RP your arms acquisitions) over a navalized F-15 though.


unf vought 1602 doesnt share any parts with F-16 besides some avionics iirc

Vought's Model 1600 was the straight up navalized F-16. 1602 would've been a highly evolved variation that used a bomber engine and have radically different size of components.

F-15N was a handwaved backup proposal that didn't get anywhere near as far.

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Postby Gallia- » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:30 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:
Palakistan wrote:Well....
I'll buy the carrier and the aircraft. I got the subs and destroyers. Could you do that?

Sure. We'll say $7 billion for a carrier and air wing. How many do you want?

Gallia- wrote:also lol 24 jammers

For when you really just want to tell the enemy IADS to bugger off

Also, I included extras.


that many jammers operating close together would be counter intuitive to your goal

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Postby EsToVnIa » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:32 pm

From my point of view, the 1602 was what would've been needed for an effective navalization attempt, tbh which is why I suggested it.

Tho i thought the only differences were the engine and enlarged fuselage.
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Postby Mitheldalond » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:34 pm

Gallia- wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:Sure. We'll say $7 billion for a carrier and air wing. How many do you want?


For when you really just want to tell the enemy IADS to bugger off

Also, I included extras.


that many jammers operating close together would be counter intuitive to your goal

How so?

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Postby Gallia- » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:34 pm

Estovnia wrote:From my point of view, the 1602 was what would've been needed for an effective navalization attempt, tbh which is why I suggested it.

Tho i thought the only differences were the engine and enlarged fuselage.


yes, and as a result it was entirely different

about the only thing shared would've been the planform and radar

even the 1600 couldn't use F-16 assembly lines it was also too different, but it at least shared an engine

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Postby Palakistan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:49 pm

Mitheldalond wrote:
Palakistan wrote:Well....
I'll buy the carrier and the aircraft. I got the subs and destroyers. Could you do that?

Sure. We'll say $7 billion for a carrier and air wing. How many do you want?

Gallia- wrote:also lol 24 jammers

For when you really just want to tell the enemy IADS to bugger off

Also, I included extras.

3. I am so going to enjoy this....
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I annoy lots of people with my views. Sorry abou' that.

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Postby Palakistan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:15 pm

Actually 2. I would like two Nimitz Carriers and their air wings.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:25 pm

Can we, erm, take this to TG or GE&T? This isn't a thread for selling things.
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Postby Palakistan » Wed Aug 05, 2015 4:32 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:Can we, erm, take this to TG or GE&T? This isn't a thread for selling things.

Sorry about that. I'll take it up in TG.
My stats are frozen at 10%
I annoy lots of people with my views. Sorry abou' that.

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Postby Roski » Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:56 am

Mitheldalond wrote:
Palakistan wrote:What would, in your opinion, make for a good fleet/flotilla/carrier strike group? I'm going to buy lots of new naval ships. Money is no objection. And is there a storefront here that sells aircraft carriers?

I have 6 carrier groups that I can sell you for ~$15 billion each, if you're interested. Each group contains:
  • 1 x Nimitz-class supercarrier:
    • 48 x F-35C
    • 24 x EA-18G EW aircraft
    • 6 x E-2 Hawkeye AEW aircraft
    • 12 x SH-60B ASW and utility helicopters
  • 3 x Arleigh Burke-class DDGs
  • 2 x Virginia-class SSNs

The actual value of all that is close to $24 billion going by Wikipedia, but I got them off GE&T awhile ago from someone who had no idea what they were actually worth, which is why they're so cheap.


You have F-35s that can fly? What kind of sorcery is this?
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Postby North Arkana » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:23 am

Roski wrote:
Mitheldalond wrote:I have 6 carrier groups that I can sell you for ~$15 billion each, if you're interested. Each group contains:
  • 1 x Nimitz-class supercarrier:
    • 48 x F-35C
    • 24 x EA-18G EW aircraft
    • 6 x E-2 Hawkeye AEW aircraft
    • 12 x SH-60B ASW and utility helicopters
  • 3 x Arleigh Burke-class DDGs
  • 2 x Virginia-class SSNs

The actual value of all that is close to $24 billion going by Wikipedia, but I got them off GE&T awhile ago from someone who had no idea what they were actually worth, which is why they're so cheap.


You have F-35s that can fly? What kind of sorcery is this?

I basically said f*** it and had my nation develop a naval strike version of the F-22, the F/A-22, because thebF-35 seems like it's going to a pain in the ass to keep working. Their numbers are supplemented by aircraft of original design also. I'd rather not risk the F-35 yet.
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:39 am

North Arkana wrote:I basically said f*** it and had my nation develop a naval strike version of the F-22, the F/A-22, because thebF-35 seems like it's going to a pain in the ass to keep working. Their numbers are supplemented by aircraft of original design also. I'd rather not risk the F-35 yet.


Mitigate risk by scrapping an aircraft that exists and replacing it with one that exists only on paper.

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Postby Husseinarti » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:28 am

I fly Rafales :>
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Postby North Arkana » Thu Aug 06, 2015 10:47 am

The Kievan People wrote:
North Arkana wrote:I basically said f*** it and had my nation develop a naval strike version of the F-22, the F/A-22, because thebF-35 seems like it's going to a pain in the ass to keep working. Their numbers are supplemented by aircraft of original design also. I'd rather not risk the F-35 yet.


Mitigate risk by scrapping an aircraft that exists and replacing it with one that exists only on paper.

k

Are you a certified DOD acquisition expert by any chance?

F-35s are still plagued by bugs of various types. Using an existing, working airframe seemed like a more logical choice.
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